which is the most useless martial art: kung fu vs tae kwon do

[brainhulk]

i don't really see them used in the octagon

 

[zokudu]

Kendo is pretty damn useless in mma if that's our metric.

 

[lxskllr]

Boxing

 

[rasczak]

every martial art has a use. you need to be more specific about which arena you are talking about. if in terms of mma, then i can see your argument, but in life in general, that's a hard argument to make.

 

[JackBurton]

I'd say Kung Fu since it incorporates the hands, but quite honestly, an individual martial art is not as complete as a hybrid system. It's best to take the best part of each martial art and throw away the junk that doesn't work. That's the type of fighting style that works, and that's what's being used in the Octagon.

 

[Spineshank]

I'd say Kung Fu since it incorporates the hands, but quite honestly, an individual martial art is not as complete as a hybrid system. It's best to take the best part of each martial art and throw away the junk that doesn't work. That's the type of fighting style that works, and that's what's being used in the Octagon.

I mainly disagree 100% with this. MMA has very few fighters that have a legit martial arts background. BJJ is the most popular and its tailored for MMA.

I do agree with taking the best parts of other styles. But a lot of styles originated from Japan anyhow.

 

[jaedaliu]

I mainly disagree 100% with this. MMA has very few fighters that have a legit martial arts background. BJJ is the most popular and its tailored for MMA.

I do agree with taking the best parts of other styles. But a lot of styles originated from Japan anyhow.

And they all can trace origin to China.

I think in Fearless Jet Li's character that says schools of martial arts aren't better than one or another. It's the individual's practice and skill that determines the success in a match.

 

[DrPizza]

Unless you're a moron who believes that the purpose of learning martial arts is purely for fighting other people trained in the martial arts, then either of those styles is far from useless.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Tae Kwon Do is excellent for kicking a man off a horse.

 

[Zeze]

Probably Wushu or that Shaolin Kung Fu crap.

 

[Spungo]

Striking arts are good for bar fights. You really don't want to practice your ground game with a bunch of shit on the floor.

 

[rasczak]

Probably Wushu or that Shaolin Kung Fu crap.

Says the Korean guy.

 

[Zeze]

Says the Korean guy.

I'm not biased. TKD is pretty worthless too. But Shaolin crap is pure circus performance. And Kung Fu in general focus on that whole 'chi' mysticism much more than TKD.

 

[irishScott]

Lol, watch this and tell me Kung-Fu is useless for fighting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-5S5mvayCw

It may not be the most efficient martial art to learn, you can't just pick it up on a lark. Which is why it's largely absent from MMA. So what?

 

[JackBurton]

I mainly disagree 100% with this. MMA has very few fighters that have a legit martial arts background. BJJ is the most popular and its tailored for MMA.

I do agree with taking the best parts of other styles. But a lot of styles originated from Japan anyhow.

LOL, "mainly disagree 100%." You know, after reading my own post, I mainly agree with you 100%. I should have phrased it, "that is what MMA fighters attempt to do, although they really don't do a good job at it. Generally speaking, most MMA fighters are jack of all trades, masters of none.

 

[waggy]

every martial art has a use. you need to be more specific about which arena you are talking about. if in terms of mma, then i can see your argument, but in life in general, that's a hard argument to make.

/this

Also a few MMA do have it as a background. but if you notice NONE of them have 1 style as a background. doing so is useless in MMA.


Withe TWD there is sport twd and self-defense TWD.

 

[Druidx]

There are several MMA fighters who started in TKD. They always announce Roy Nelson as a King Fu Fighter, just for laughs of course.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

Please note that the first M in MMA stands for MIXED. It is a blending of many different styles. BJJ is the best for ground game (or more specific, 10th planet jiu jitsu which is a BJJ no-gi hybrid). Wrestling and Judo are great for takedowns. There are plenty of fighters that don't have these skills and they don't go very far.

Lyoto Machida has a unique style and he is a standup fighter. He uses karate for his striking.

TKD is used in MMA. TKD is great for kicking as long as you learn it properly. Not sport TKD, mind you. That shit where kids get black belts by age 13 is stupid.

MMA is about mixing the martial arts so you have a well-round game. I would say wrestling, muay thai and BJJ are the three most effective techniques, although they are complete shit in the octagon by themsleves. Take a muay thai kickboxer without a ground game down and see how fast they get submitted.

 

[DigDog]

there are no useless martial arts. as long as you train, and become discipline, you will have an advantage.

Boxing

bruce lee would disagree.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Probably Wushu or that Shaolin Kung Fu crap.

I don't know, being able to levitate and use telekinesis could be handy in MMA. And bringing a sword to a hand-fight would (puts on sunglasses) . . . give you an edge.

 

[LookBehindYou]

They all have their good points and bad points. And yes there are many mma fighters that have backgrounds other than bjj. GSP - Karate, Anderson Silva - TKD, Machida - Karate, Pettis - TKD.

Theres a ton of others if you look. The point is though, that even though they have a background in one, they use all or many and pick the best parts of each art. I'm sure some may have fewer pieces they can implement but I'm sure there is a benefit in almost all of them.

 

[Svnla]

And they all can trace origin to China.

I think in Fearless Jet Li's character that says schools of martial arts aren't better than one or another. It's the individual's practice and skill that determines the success in a match.

Agree totally with the bolded/underlined parts.

 

[kage69]

I don't think there is a useless one, just ones with more utility (given a situation) than others.

More germane to the issue is 'the octagon' is not the end all be all metric of martial effectiveness.

There are multitudes of gong fu styles, and several flavors of TKD. Both have the "showmanship" addiction depending on the particular flavor you are talking about, and both have varieties that are all business and focused around creating pain and harm.

I have respect for Eagle Claw and White Eyebrow gong fu, as well as the Chung do Kwan version of TKD. Not so much for TKD as popularized here in the States.

Zeze, Shaolin kung fu is no joke. The conditioning alone those guys do is crazy. Please don't confuse the generic tumbling and fight routines they do for cameras as representative of their martial prowess (or lack thereof). Many Japanese badasses speak of Shorenji boxers (shaolin) with admiration and respect for a reason.

 

[PenguinPower]

I'm sorry...what forum did I end up visiting? People are agreeing with each other here.

 

[Spungo]

Do a video search for "gracie challenge" where masters of one art try to take on Brazilian jiu jitsu. Jiu jitsu wins every time. BJJ is actually about winning. Things like high school wrestling are about points and stuff and they have rules so their focus is totally whack.