VirtualLarry
No Lifer
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Thanks for mentioning all of that. It should be clear to everyone now what your POV is. Personally, I find it abhorrent. Why should corporations be above the law? What should they be free from being taxed? But yet, "ordinary people" are held to the confines of the written law, and taxed just the same. You truely are in favor of the "slave-master corporate state", aren't you? That really makes me sick.Originally posted by: Amused
Larry, there would be no "corporate welfare" if regulations and taxes of corporations were ended. Corporate taxes are merely indirect taxes on the consumer and make our businesses less competitive on the world market. They should be abolished.
Or are you in favor of abolishing all taxes altogether, which would imply abolishing gov't itself, which would lead to a true outlaw state. Is that what you would favor? No gov't?
You initially pointed out Wal-Mart's "success". I point out that "success" was based on indirect socialism. It is not the "pure capitalist" success that you make it out to be.Originally posted by: Amused
Everything you have ranted about is directly connected to the regulation of business. Separate business and state just as we have religion and state and business loses all power.
ALL your arguments are weak. What's more, you implying that I am indirectly advocating socialism because Walmart doesn't offer benefits to your liking is so laughable, I only respond to point out it's absurdity.
That's a different issue, and I basically agree with that. But there are legitimate issues, and if you think about it, "insurance" is based inherently on a collective model to make it work. Does that mean that health insurance cannot exist in a profit-driven capitalist world? Not everything in life can be strictly measured by just dollars and cents. That's why the "pure capitalist" model, is itself, inherently blind, and not directly suitable for the real world that we must all live in.Originally posted by: Amused
Health care and all other "benefits" are the sole responsibility of the individual. Not the state, or any business. If you don't like the "benefits" offered at your place of employment, find another employer.
I wasn't arguing against personally-held biases and beliefs, nor that one would be able to change those. But this country is a Republic, which is based in part on the principles of respecting the rights of the minorities, at the same time that the overall will of the people is decided by majority vote. Everyone should be considered equal under the law, at least in terms of rights, and opportunities. The fact that you see nothing wrong with racially-prejudicial hiring practices, in pursuit of your "pure capitalism" dream world, speaks volumes, both about your viewpoints, and about how different they are from the basic principles that this country was founded upon. I think you should leave this country, quite frankly. You and everyone like you. Start your own "outlaw free capitalist state", somewhere else. I, for one, do believe in the legitimate purpose of a limited gov't, for the primary purpose of serving and upholding the rights of the people. In order to do that, one must also regulate business and commerce. For safety, and for freedom.Originally posted by: Amused
Finally, anti-discrimination laws are an unenforceable joke. You cannot change hearts and minds with laws. People discriminate every day. The only way to stop it is not forcing them to do things they do not want to do, but by ending bias itself through education and the changing of hearts and minds.
