Which is good PC with Stability and Speed For Bussiness and Gaming? Plz reply Fast

WHICH IS BETTER TO BUY?

  • PHENOM II X4 965

  • PHENOM II X3

  • PHENOM II X2 Highest

  • PHENOM X4

  • ATHELON II X4


Results are only viewable after voting.

vaavazodu

Junior Member
Aug 29, 2010
6
0
0
Hey Guys, I have some choices..

I want to buy a PC and I want to run it for Gaming and bussiness..

I'll Install Windows 7 Ultimate 64..

I want to know Which PC should I buy... CHoices are..

AMD PHENOM II x4 945
AMD PHENOM II x3
AMD PHENOM II x2 Highest.
AMD PHENOM X4
AMD ATHLON II X4.

I have Budget to BUY x4 945 but i just want to check if therez value for money or not.. IF any of these give little bit Lower by Performance and COST make MUCH more difference then I'll buy OTHER ONE... Plz reply fast guys..
 
Last edited:

Sickamore

Senior member
Aug 10, 2010
368
0
0
I would go with the 965 because with the right board you can ublock it to six cores.
 

vaavazodu

Junior Member
Aug 29, 2010
6
0
0
How do you unlock cores that arent there?, besides which the OP said he wants stability!
:thumbsup:

Hmmm, My PC work for 24*7 and its very hot in INDIA.. so overclocking is just for time being.. I can use good cooler.. But i dun think I can work with Overclocking that much.. I'll go with regular speed.. So As SolMiester said, I Want stability and Speed...And value for money.
 

JimmiG

Platinum Member
Feb 24, 2005
2,024
112
106
Phenom II will be worth it, the L3 cache, which the Athlon lacks, really helps in some situations. I would not go with anything less than quad core at this point.

If temperatures are really a problem, you could go with the 910e, 2.6 GHz and 65W. However, I think that the 945 is available with a 95W TDP now, down from 125W when it launched.
 

Sickamore

Senior member
Aug 10, 2010
368
0
0
How do you unlock cores that arent there?, besides which the OP said he wants stability!


This is what i read on the website for the asus crosshair board and also some reviews.

Core Unlocker
Intelligently Unlocks True Core Performance
ASUS Core Unlocker simplifies the activation of a latent AMD CPU—with just a press of a button. Enjoy an instant performance boost by simply unlocking the extra cores, without performing complicated BIOS changes.

Correct me if i am wrong. Thank you.
 

jvroig

Platinum Member
Nov 4, 2009
2,394
1
81
@Sickamore: Right now, that only applies for Phenom II X2 and X3 chips, which can be made into an X4.

Quad-core Denebs have only four physical cores. There is nothing left to unlock.


EDIT: You may have also seen motherboard advertisements that say unlock X4 to X6. That is also not true. Supposedly, there should have been a Thuban-based X4 SKU for retail (960T), so the motherboard makers prepared and advertised boards that would unlock such chips into a full X6. Unfortunately, AMD decided not to sell those chips at retail, so all the motherboard makers achieved was jumping the gun for a whole lot of nothing.
 
Last edited:

Sickamore

Senior member
Aug 10, 2010
368
0
0
Bravo thank you. That clears things up. Also let me ask you. The i7 930 whats the maximum ghz this proccessor will hit overclocked.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,522
751
126
Bravo thank you. That clears things up. Also let me ask you. The i7 930 whats the maximum ghz this proccessor will hit overclocked.

Mine just hit 4200Mhz on the weekend after some tinkering, i think thats about as far as i can get it on air as i dont have alot of core voltage left to play with but will probably try for a little more this weekend.
 

Sickamore

Senior member
Aug 10, 2010
368
0
0
The reason i asked i can buy the 930 for 200 dollars from microcenter however the 950 price just went down from 562 to 300 dollars. Microcenter doesnt have it and its sold out best buy. What type of performance boost will i get in the 950.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,522
751
126
The reason i asked i can buy the 930 for 200 dollars from microcenter however the 950 price just went down from 562 to 300 dollars. Microcenter doesnt have it and its sold out best buy. What type of performance boost will i get in the 950.

If you are overclocking then get the 930, the only thing the 950 has is a higher multiplier but i think 4.2Ghz will probably be about the max the chip will do anyways so the higher multi wont matter, as most boards will do 200 bclock and on a 930 that will get you to 4.2Ghz.

If you are keeping it stock obviously the higher clocks of the 950 would be worth it.
 

Sickamore

Senior member
Aug 10, 2010
368
0
0
Okay good i am going for the 930 also whats the recommended ram. I was looking at the corsair dominator 3*2 gigs 8-8-8-24 ram. And how about the frio thermaltake fan is this good for overclocking.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,522
751
126
i would reccomend against the dominator ram, get the normal height ram so it wont interfear with a huge heatsink which you will want for a i7 overclock. I would reccomend The Noctura NH-D14, Megahalems, or the TRUE for a heatsink. Those are probably the top three air coolers out there. I own the NH-D14 and the quality and mounting mechanism are top notch, as are the included fans.
 

Sickamore

Senior member
Aug 10, 2010
368
0
0
Guide me on something that you would recommend for the over clocking stability in ram. Which ram should i choose. You tell me.
 

vaavazodu

Junior Member
Aug 29, 2010
6
0
0
Guide me on something that you would recommend for the over clocking stability in ram. Which ram should i choose. You tell me.

Choose any with normal Buffer rate... Overclocking is all abt your PC VOLTAGE and COOLING SYSTEM... Like Cosair Water Cooler, that will make your PC much stable while OVERCLOCKING....
 

aigomorla

CPU, Cases&Cooling Mod PC Gaming Mod Elite Member
Super Moderator
Sep 28, 2005
21,019
3,490
126
Lesson 1.

NEVER and i say NEVER MIX a gaming PC with a business PC.

Gaming PC's just arent as durable, because of the constant load on ram and video card.
Unless you want to spend a TON of money on ultra durable parts.

A business machine will have a lot less workload then a gaming machine will.
And business machines are NOT OVERCLOCKED.

If this is a mission critical machine.. ie.. if its down YOU lose money, DONT EVER MIX THE TWO.
 

Sickamore

Senior member
Aug 10, 2010
368
0
0
Its not a business machine. That i am going to build later. I decided that much money spending i will keep it as my gaming and overclocking machine.
 

Martimus

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2007
4,490
157
106
Its not a business machine. That i am going to build later. I decided that much money spending i will keep it as my gaming and overclocking machine.

Why are you replying to Aigo? This isn't your thread, it is vaavazodu's thread, and he asked what he should get for a combined Business and Gaming PC.

Also, I agree with Aigo, it is best not to mix the two. If for no other reason than to avoid the issues you get from the DRM most games have that may conflict with important business programs.
 

vaavazodu

Junior Member
Aug 29, 2010
6
0
0
Lesson 1.

NEVER and i say NEVER MIX a gaming PC with a business PC.

Gaming PC's just arent as durable, because of the constant load on ram and video card.
Unless you want to spend a TON of money on ultra durable parts.

A business machine will have a lot less workload then a gaming machine will.
And business machines are NOT OVERCLOCKED.

If this is a mission critical machine.. ie.. if its down YOU lose money, DONT EVER MIX THE TWO.
Hmmm.. You are right that way....but what if bussiness is related to graphix :/