Which is faster?

Amused

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Which would be faster in most or all applications?

PIII 1.0 GHz 100FSB

Or

Celeron 1.4 GHZ 100 FSB
 

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the celeron if its a tualitan (256k cache) otherwise, i suppose it depends on the app you're using.
 

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I'd say the Celeron is probably the winner. BTW, isn't the 1GHz P3 with a 100MHz fsb a Slot CPU? That Celeron is certainly a chip, so unless you're trying to put the thing in something like BX mobo, you'd need an adapter for the Celeron, and sometimes the mobos don't support the adapters...
 

bacillus

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Originally posted by: bjc112
P3 @ 1ghz.

Better FPU and more cache than that silly little celeron...

hmm, no!
both the p3 1GHz & the celeron 1.4GHz have 256kb on-board L2 cache.
the celeron will beat the p3 because of speed & the fact that it has prefetch while the p3 hasn't!
btw the celeron is a tualatin core.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: Amused
Which would be faster in most or all applications?

PIII 1.0 GHz 100FSB

Or

Celeron 1.4 GHZ 100 FSB

The Celeron 1.4 is essentially a P3 1.4, so the Celeron will win in all applications. The P3 Tualatin (P3's above 1 Ghz) were given another 256K of cache, bringing them up to 512K.
 

boyRacer

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Celeron... thats a Tualatin... so its basically a P3 1.4 @ 100 FSB. It has the same amount of cache as the Coppermine P3.
 

fxsts

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I do not know what those guys answering 'P3' as the faster chip are thinking. I am, in fact, a little embarrassed to see that those responses are coming from people with quite senior status.

P-III 1Ghz running on 100Mhz FSB has Cuppermine core with 256k Cache.

Celeron 1.4Ghz running on 100Mhz FSB has Tualatin Core with 256Mhz Cache.

Basically, Tualatin Celeron 1Ghz with 256k cache performs pretty much identically to Cuppermine P-III 1Ghz on 100Mhz bus. Celeron 1.4Ghz is 400Mhz faster than them.

P-III 1.4Ghz on 133Mhz FSB with 512k Cache is of course faster not because of the Pentium name but because of the faster FSB and larger cache.

Tualatin Celeron 1.4Ghz is the fastest S370 chip to run on 100Mhz bus motherboard such as those based on Intel 440BX given that the motherboard supports Tualatin converter.


 

Amused

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Thanks guys. Yes, it is a Tualatin Celeron with 256k cache.

And yeah, it's going into a BX mobo using a Slot-T adapter. An old Dell XPS-R450 with 256mb of RAM to be exact.
 

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Originally posted by: fxsts
I do not know what those guys answering 'P3' as the faster chip are thinking. I am, in fact, a little embarrassed to see that those responses are coming from people with quite senior status.

P-III 1Ghz running on 100Mhz FSB has Cuppermine core with 256k Cache.

Celeron 1.4Ghz running on 100Mhz FSB has Tualatin Core with 256Mhz Cache.

Basically, Tualatin Celeron 1Ghz with 256k cache performs pretty much identically to Cuppermine P-III 1Ghz on 100Mhz bus. Celeron 1.4Ghz is 400Mhz faster than them.

P-III 1.4Ghz on 133Mhz FSB with 512k Cache is of course faster not because of the Pentium name but because of the faster FSB and larger cache.

Tualatin Celeron 1.4Ghz is the fastest S370 chip to run on 100Mhz bus motherboard such as those based on Intel 440BX given that the motherboard supports Tualatin converter.

^Exactly. I'm sure that both shady and Big Lar were just goofing around.. a little bit of high-post count trolling if you will.
 

Amused

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Well, I installed the Celeron in my old Dell and it is a bit faster than the 1 GHz PIII. Thanks for your help guys :)
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: bacillus
Originally posted by: bjc112
P3 @ 1ghz.

Better FPU and more cache than that silly little celeron...

hmm, no!
both the p3 1GHz & the celeron 1.4GHz have 256kb on-board L2 cache.
the celeron will beat the p3 because of speed & the fact that it has prefetch while the p3 hasn't!
btw the celeron is a tualatin core.

yup:) i'tll oc a little to boot. though 1.4 is hard to oc. my 1.1a celly's both went to 1.5ghz easy at 133mhz bus.
 

fxsts

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Originally posted by: Amused
Well, I installed the Celeron in my old Dell and it is a bit faster than the 1 GHz PIII. Thanks for your help guys :)

And you can probably sell the 1Ghz PIII and get almost enough money to pay for Celeron 1.4 and Tualatin adapter.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: fxsts
Originally posted by: Amused
Well, I installed the Celeron in my old Dell and it is a bit faster than the 1 GHz PIII. Thanks for your help guys :)

And you can probably sell the 1Ghz PIII and get almost enough money to pay for Celeron 1.4 and Tualatin adapter.

Actually, I had recently given the PIII 1GHz away to my GF's mother to put in a computer I built for her a few years ago and upgrade the 450 Mhz PII I had originally installed. But then I had this Dell sitting around with the old PII450 in it not able to do much. When I found I could upgrade it again for $80 I figured what the hell. :)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: bacillus
Originally posted by: bjc112
P3 @ 1ghz.

Better FPU and more cache than that silly little celeron...

hmm, no!
both the p3 1GHz & the celeron 1.4GHz have 256kb on-board L2 cache.
the celeron will beat the p3 because of speed & the fact that it has prefetch while the p3 hasn't!
btw the celeron is a tualatin core.

yup:) i'tll oc a little to boot. though 1.4 is hard to oc. my 1.1a celly's both went to 1.5ghz easy at 133mhz bus.

The bummer is, this is a Dell mobo. So it's not going to OC. :(