Which Is Cheaper? Lifetime Imprisonment w/ No Possibility of Parole or Execution

Dari

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Lifetime Imprisonment Disadvantages:
Lifelong financial burden with no reimbursement
free and unlimited access to the courts

Execution Disadvantages:
High insurance cost (to ensure that prisoner dies without any pain or adverse effects)
 

Ryan

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I'd go with execution. If it could only be quicker, we'd save a ton of money :D
 

CTho9305

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Just pop a bullet or 10 through their head and be done with it. If you've committed a crime worthy of death (murder, multiple drunk driving offenses, multiple armed assaults), then you deserve what you get. To satisfy those who are soft at heart, give the accused 5 years in prison to come up with an appeal or something.

(as was mentioned above, lifetime imprisonment is actually cheaper)
 

bunker

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Lifetime imprisonment is actually cheaper.

Correct.

Between all of the court costs to the state for all the appeals a death row inmate gets, plus the execution itself, it costs more to execute someone.

<----- Criminal Justice Degree
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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If they're a murderer and going to be executed, why make it comfortable for them. Stick a fork in their forehead.
 

Dari

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BTW, are prisoners insured when they enter the prison system? I curious because if they die or get injured in prison, does the state have to pay anything extra (aside from the medical bill)?
 

bunker

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Are you talking about a life insurance policy? If so, the state wouldn't give them one.
 

Spoooon

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Originally posted by: Spac3d
I don't see why we don't just go to the back of the courthouse and shoot them.

Well, one reason is the possibility that they might actually be innocent. ;)
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: Spac3d
I don't see why we don't just go to the back of the courthouse and shoot them.

Well, one reason is the possibility that they might actually be innocent. ;)

What, you saying that our judicial system can make mistakes?? Pshaw.
 

Dari

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If the execution of a prisoner is more expensive than life imprisonment, then why don't we make it nominally more expensive. Just as we have a state medical program (Medicare and Medicaid), why can't we create a state (or federal) insurance program that can insure these executions. If there are any adverse incidents during execution, the state insurance pays. But if there isn't any, nobody loses. Has anyone ever thought about this?
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: Dari
If the execution of a prisoner is more expensive than life imprisonment, then why don't we make it nominally more expensive. Just as we have a state medical program (Medicare and Medicaid), why can't we create a state (or federal) insurance program that can insure these executions. If there are any adverse incidents during execution, the state insurance pays. But if there isn't any, nobody loses. Has anyone ever thought about this?

The cost is in the appeals, not the execution itself.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: Dari
If the execution of a prisoner is more expensive than life imprisonment, then why don't we make it nominally more expensive. Just as we have a state medical program (Medicare and Medicaid), why can't we create a state (or federal) insurance program that can insure these executions. If there are any adverse incidents during execution, the state insurance pays. But if there isn't any, nobody loses. Has anyone ever thought about this?

The cost is in the appeals, not the execution itself.

But I've seen cats in prison that sue for everything. From the state denying their rights to practice satanism or whatever religion they created (such as one in which the worshippers must have sirloin steak for every meal) to the fact that the warden was mean to them. The fact is, these people have a lot of time on their hands and use the courts freequently. Unless I'm mistaken, aren't such frivolous cases as much a burden to the justice system as appeals from death row convicts?
 

Imdmn04

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do it like they do it in china

a lot cheaper, heck, make the family pay for the bullet.

last meal, haha, when u r a rapist and a murderer, you dont deserve a last meal.
 

konichiwa

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: Dari
If the execution of a prisoner is more expensive than life imprisonment, then why don't we make it nominally more expensive. Just as we have a state medical program (Medicare and Medicaid), why can't we create a state (or federal) insurance program that can insure these executions. If there are any adverse incidents during execution, the state insurance pays. But if there isn't any, nobody loses. Has anyone ever thought about this?

The cost is in the appeals, not the execution itself.

But I've seen cats in prison that sue for everything. From the state denying their rights to practice satanism or whatever religion they created (such as one in which the worshippers must have sirloin steak for every meal) to the fact that the warden was mean to them. The fact is, these people have a lot of time on their hands and use the courts freequently. Unless I'm mistaken, aren't such frivolous as much a burden to the justice system as appeals from death row convicts?

No, that's what we're telling you. It's not just as much of a burden.
 

Ns1

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we should have it like china sometimes

1 bullet then bill the family


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oops Imdmn04 got it first =(
 

Howard

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The court system is flawed. I just wish there would be some kind of conclusive, irrefutable kind of test that could determine criminals to be guilty or innocent. Then they could be tossed into the public with live TV streams. :)
 

fatbaby

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We all don't need these silly jails or these silly executions.

We all make mistakes in life.

We all should live free! and plant trees.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
we should have it like china sometimes

1 bullet then bill the family


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oops Imdmn04 got it first =(

But that would defeat everything that America has done in since its inception of become a "city on a hill / for all the world to see".
 

Amorphus

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the actual execution costs are fairly cheap... $10k or so, I think. the problem is that when they get the verdict, the criminals just put off the execution by going through a lengthy court process that takes upwards of 5 years, in many cases.

it costs $10k-$20k per year to keep an inmate.