Which is better the Seti Driver or the Seti Queue

XL

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Which one is most prefered? I'm using Seti Driver now. I want to use the one that will optimize the WUs the best and obtain the best results.
 

JimMc

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They really do different tasks. SetiDriver is intended to run on a single PC and gives you the ability to cache WU's, some info on the WU being worked and an easy way to point the CLI client to a proxy server. SetiQueue is a proxy server which can serve multiple machines on a LAN or through internet connection. It too will cache WU's as well as track all sorts of stats concerning the clients that fetch or flush through it. Neither one gives you an inherent ability to process a WU faster. It is common to run SetiDriver and Seti Queue on the same machine, Seti Driver fetches and flushes through Seti Queue, and Seit Queue fetches and flushes to Berleley, Orange Kid or wherever. SeiQueue has better ability to manage the WU's in your cache, but deleting VLAR's is not a popular practice because somebody has to do them.
 

Orange Kid

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What Jim said :)
Unless you have a large fleet or really want to keep a eye on remote machines I would suggest SetiDriver as the easiest to use.
For the need to track remote machines or a constant need for a stats fix then SetiQ is the way to go :)
Neither has anything to do with actually processing wu's
 

ober

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I use SETIQueue to provide a central distribution point for my SETI Driver installations at work. This has the added benefits of keeping SETI off our internet connection during the day and also allowing me to not have to open my firewall to get SETI WUs in and out of our network. The SETIQueue machine already has the access needed. I recommend a cache size of 2 * processor_count for SETI Driver in this configuration. This way, if the SETIQueue machine is down for any reason, SETI Driver will still keep crunching.

Mike.
 

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or a constant need for a stats fix then SetiQ is the way to go

I fall into that catorgory!;) ,I have SETIQ on this machine for its better stats & more specifally the better WU logging ,same with my 2nd PC .But I also have machines (when there) on the LAN to connect to my SETIQ ,currently my Cel 300A@374 uses SETIDriver & connects to SETIQ.I installed SETIDriver on that incase my network goes down (which does happen occasionally).

Oh, I also like to install SETIDriver because it makes the CLi much easy to use:)

Mike
Whose team are you on out of interest?
btw good to see you still here:)
 

Confused

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i second (or is it third, fourth, oh, whatever) using SetiQ and SetiDriver

SetiQ for STATS and great WU caching if you have more than one PC, or are considering it in the future, and SetiDriver on each individual machine pointing to your SetiQ

For a third back-up, point your SetiQ to OrangeKid's SetiQ, so you will almost always be able to get WUs, no matter what :)

Did i also mention more stats......? :)

ConfusedBW
 

ober

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Thought on caching - every cache a WU goes through delays its processing. Remember, Berkeley would really like to get WUs back within a week, so you need to take this into consideration when you set your cache sizes.

Mike.
 

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A week? ,where do they say that?:confused:

I know SETI say they resubmit them after 4 weeks now ,with previous versions it used to be 2 weeks
 

ober

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The original plan was to assume it would take 50 hours of processing time per WU. This is where the one week estimate came from. Berkeley didn't count on us S@H addicts to blow this number out of the water by overclocking, buying faster hardware, running 24x7, etc. The four weeks is the "active user" timer. If you don't return a WU at least once every four weeks, you drop of the "active users" list. The last I had heard is that the actual turn around time on a WU averages about three days for the first returned result.sah file.

Mike.
 

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Oh I see ,but that still begs the question ,how long before they re-submit the WU's?.

If you don't get a result back from one PC how long does the server wait until sending the same data out again?

For quite a while now we have been sending the data out multiple times over the course of a day or so without waiting for a result at all. That allows us to delete the file from our local disks sooner than we otherwise would (as soon as we've received at least two results) and keep our splitters generating data files at a high rate.

That doesn't answer us...

Note: On February 6, 2001, we decided to change the definition of "active user" from a user who has returned at least one result in the past 14 days to a user who has returned at least one result in the past 28 days. This is because version 3.03, which became mandatory on Febrary 1, 2001, takes significantly longer to process, and result times began falling beyond the 14-day window

Nor does that :(,though to me that implies 4 weeks.
Is the 1 week figure you mention something that's on their site or just something that 1 of them told you?

Berkeley didn't count on us S@H addicts to blow this number out of the water by overclocking, buying faster hardware, running 24x7,
LOL ;):D
 

ober

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IIRC, the 1 week is in their original project plan. Sometime within the last month or so, Erik posted that the average number of times a WU is sent out is just under 3, with the first results back in in a day or so.

Mike.
 

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hmmm... i wonder if the 5 day caching philosophy is mucking with their plans? (5 days being the longest bekeley has been down so far)
 

Assimilator1

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ah ,we all know what happens to original plans;)

They don't seem to indicate on their site at all(unless I missed it) when they'd like the results back ,so I would think 4weeks is still the limit.
Unless of course you've been told '1 week' by 1 of their guys recently:)

btw whats IIRC ,?***? Internet Relay Chat ?