Which is better AGOGA or Retail XP 1900+?

[jazziz]

Newegg has the retail for $125 and the AGOGA for $120. Thanks for the input.

 

[CrazySaint]

Retail - Has 3 year warranty and the stock AMD HS/F
Agoga - OEM (CPU only, no HSF), good overclocking core (though I think AROIA is newer/better), no warranty (only reason to get it is overclocking, which voids the warranty)

So, if you plan on overclocking, you should get the AGOGA, since you wouldn't use the stock HSF and will void the warranty, anyway (although, if you're going to overclock, I would recommend the 1600+ instead). If you aren't going to overclock, and don't mind having a HS/F that is adequate but not great or value the warranty, then get the retail.

 

[BuddyAtBzboyz]

I agree with Crazy Saint about overclocking and voiding the warranty but its only $5 difference. I say get the retail an if you don't use that hsf that came with the chip you can always use it for something else like your motherboard chipset

 

[CrazySaint]

The reason to get the AGOGA, is that you're gauranteed a good OC stepping, whereas with the retail, you may get a good OC stepping

 

[jazziz]

although, if you're going to overclock, I would recommend the 1600+ instead

Why is that? Better value?

 

[FatMan42]

Originally posted by: jazziz

although, if you're going to overclock, I would recommend the 1600+ instead

Why is that? Better value?

...no, it's because 1600+ chips from NewEgg have recently been AROIA or AGOIA steppings. These have tended to be better overclockers than the AGOGA's.

 

[toadstool]

I have an AGOGA 1900....and I can't even get it to 1700 mghz without it crapping out on me. It was retail...not OEM. So, NEITHER buying retail or getting an AGOGA chip guarantees a great overclocking CPU.

 

[jazziz]

Thank you all for the info.

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: jazziz

although, if you're going to overclock, I would recommend the 1600+ instead

Why is that? Better value?

As FatMan42 said, the recent 1600+s have had excellent steppings and seem to frequently overclock as high as 1.8GHz (XP2200+)

 

[BuddyAtBzboyz]

As FatMan42 said, the recent 1600+s have had excellent steppings and seem to frequently overclock as high as 1.8GHz (XP2200+)

Seems to me whoever is testing the chips at AMD is screwing up then

 

[FatMan42]

Screwing up... how so? Remember - the Palomino core is at the end of it's life in a sense. There will be no new models released with the Palomino core. It's a mature product and it's been developed quite a long way. The result now is that a good proportion of their chips seem to be very high performers. They still need to fill all the parts bins as some buyers still want cheaper, 'low-end' CPUs. Hence they mark-down faster chips. How is this AMD screwing up?

 

[BuddyAtBzboyz]

Well just that the 1600+ is overclocking even better then most of the 1700+ or even 1800+. Think its a coincidence? I don't. I think that AMD is purposefully trying to put better yeild chips into the 1600+ to combat the 1.6A's popularity as an overclocker. But hey that's probably just the conspiracy theorist in me talking.