Which glasses do I need to use AMD HD3D?

[King Mustard]

Let's presume I have an LG W2363D-PF 3D monitor and a 7870 video card.

What glasses do I need? NVIDIA GeForce 3D Vision 2 glasses?

 

[Durvelle27]

AMD HD3D doesn't use specific glasses. You go by what the monitor requires and that particularly monitor requires Nvidia 3DVision.

 

[King Mustard]

AMD HD3D doesn't use specific glasses. You go by what the monitor requires and that particularly monitor requires Nvidia 3DVision.

Ah, I see Thank you.

 

[Borealis7]

my Samsung S23A700D came with glasses, but i've never tried to run games in HD3D. how do i even do that? through CCC? it's probably not available for my 5850 though...
i'll upgrade soon and give it a shot.

 

[King Mustard]

my Samsung S23A700D came with glasses, but i've never tried to run games in HD3D. how do i even do that? through CCC? it's probably not available for my 5850 though...
i'll upgrade soon and give it a shot.

The 5850 can do it

 

[Durvelle27]

my Samsung S23A700D came with glasses, but i've never tried to run games in HD3D. how do i even do that? through CCC? it's probably not available for my 5850 though...
i'll upgrade soon and give it a shot.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/Pages/how-to.aspx

 

[Borealis7]

bleh! i have to buy 3D conversion software? boooo

 

[ViRGE]

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/Pages/how-to.aspx

Man it's been years since I've heard HD3D, which is apparently how long it has been since AMD has promoted it. Recommended equipment is a 6970 and Catalyst 10.10. I hate to laugh at AMD, but man that initiative went nowhere fast.

bleh! i have to buy 3D conversion software? boooo

Indeed. AMD basically punted on the whole matter. They enabled quad buffering in their consumer cards (something NV limits to Quadros), but only a handful of games ever implemented stereo 3D natively (Deus Ex being the marquee game). For anything that needed an intermediate driver, AMD left it up to the 3rd parties, which is a big reason why this never went anywhere. 3D Vision is only marginally successful because NVIDIA does all the hard work; devs by far and large have completely ignored traditional stereo 3D and are far more likely to chase Occulus Rift.

 

[wand3r3r]

bleh! i have to buy 3D conversion software? boooo

I didn't follow the link but there is some 3D software that you get free with a samsung monitor (normally $50 but usually on sale for $25).

Tridef springs to mind but I forget if that was it.

Either way you can play some games in 3D without paying anything.

 

[King Mustard]

I have to decide whether the extra money a 120Hz monitor costs is worth it if I'm not going to play any 3D games (since it now seems HD3D isn't worth it).

Or 144Hz, apparently that's around now - so confusing.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

3D Vision is only marginally successful because NVIDIA does all the hard work; devs by far and large have completely ignored traditional stereo 3D and are far more likely to chase Occulus Rift.

Well the fact is that if you want a business to do all the hard work getting it to run correctly in such a way that developers bare no burden, then that package is going to cost something.

I'd call 3D Vision a complete success, as a product it's extremely well made, I have the vision 2.0 glasses and a lightboost monitor and find the quality significantly better than that of 3D in any cinema I've tried it in.

It's just not very popular, but then the demand is low so that's hardly surprising.

Occulus Rift looks amazing and if it wasn't for the low resolution panel I'd have bought a dev kit without hesitation, but I think that in all likelyhood it will lack developer support in approximately the same way 3D has, it'll be a niche market.

 

[SirPauly]

my Samsung S23A700D came with glasses, but i've never tried to run games in HD3D. how do i even do that? through CCC? it's probably not available for my 5850 though...
i'll upgrade soon and give it a shot.

There are a few titles like Battlefield 3 that offer HD3d native support!

Here is a review:

http://www.mtbs3d.com/index.php?opt...ticle&id=13050:battlefield-3-review&Itemid=76

It's a tragedy to have a 120hz monitor and not try 3d stereo, imho --- one may receive a raise in immersion with improved 2d gaming and the flexibility to enjoy 3d stereo in some compelling content at times.

 

[wand3r3r]

An easy way to make it get supported instead of a niche would be to make it an open standard (share the work) or license it to AMD (cheap enough to be incentive).

Proprietary and niche = dead end in the long run.

 

[wand3r3r]

There are a few titles like Battlefield 3 that offer HD3d native support!

Here is a review:

http://www.mtbs3d.com/index.php?opt...ticle&id=13050:battlefield-3-review&Itemid=76

It's a tragedy to have a 120hz monitor and not try 3d stereo, imho --- one may receive a raise in immersion with improved 2d gaming and the flexibility to enjoy 3d stereo in some compelling content at times.

Yes it's definitely worth trying! It's very successful at times. My main concerns were performance issues and for example aim was wacky when I tried it out.

 

[bystander36]

Yes it's definitely worth trying! It's very successful at times. My main concerns were performance issues and for example aim was wacky when I tried it out.

Aim can be improved by turning on the laser sites in the 3D software, and turning it off in the game settings (if you can).

 

[el etro]

Some games become great(Not better than the much less accessible 3D Vision) with AMD3D(RE5, Crysis2, RE6, Skyrim(with problems) i tested), many others no much.

 

[bystander36]

Some games become great(Not better than the much less accessible 3D Vision) with AMD3D(RE5, Crysis2, RE6, Skyrim(with problems) i tested), many others no much.

In some games, like Farcry 3, using the directX 9 option gives better results than the Dx11 option.

 

[Aikouka]

Man it's been years since I've heard HD3D, which is apparently how long it has been since AMD has promoted it. Recommended equipment is a 6970 and Catalyst 10.10. I hate to laugh at AMD, but man that initiative went nowhere fast.

It was pretty much screwed at conception because the original design only supported HDMI. They eventually added DisplayPort support, but that was only supported in a few monitors.

It's worthwhile to mention that getting 3D over HDMI on NVIDIA cards isn't free either. You have to buy their 3DTV Play software. Although, any other middleware should also work.

 

[Borealis7]

I dont think anyone with a 120Hz monitor uses HDMI, it can't do 120Hz @ 1080P. (HDMI is basically a new package for Single Link DVI plus added audio)
I use Dual-link DVI instead.

 

[King Mustard]

I dont think anyone with a 120Hz monitor uses HDMI, it can't do 120Hz @ 1080P. (HDMI is basically a new package for Single Link DVI plus added audio)
I use Dual-link DVI instead.

HDMI 1.4 can do 120hz @ 1080p though, I believe.

 

[ViRGE]

HDMI 1.4 can do 120hz @ 1080p though, I believe.

The FastHDMI portion of the spec allows for it, yes. Just keep in mind that you don't have to support/use it to be called HDMI 1.4. Consequently I have yet to see a PC monitor use FastHDMI; it would appear no one has created a suitable controller yet.

 

[SirPauly]

However, the HDMI 1.4(a)standard is restricted to 24hz per eye at 1080p!

 

[SirPauly]

imho,

FastHDMI is an AMD name!

1.4b -- 1080p with 60hz per eye -- was a new ability!

http://www.cinenow.co.uk/videos/3288-ise-2012-hdmi-1-dot-4b-demystified-by-david-silberstein

 

[ViRGE]

imho,

FastHDMI is an AMD name!

Well yes. Technically there isn't an official name for supporting clock rates above 165MHz on HDMI. FastHDMI is the closest thing you're going to get to a meaningful description.

 

[SirPauly]

But does FastHDMI have a meaningful infrastructure? Where is the support and devices?

I can see potentially 1.4b having this.