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Which gigabyte p35 board?

buy one that has pipes on the NB and PWM that will be the p35c ds3p ds4, dq6 or better


stay away from the s3g p31 p33 or ds3l. Not that they're bad, but that you're spending 160, get some quality.
 
Which features? I'm a noob when it comes to computer building. I won't really be doing a raid config.
I'll be using an 8400. I want to overclock but I'm no pro. DDR3 would be nice eventually?

 
Originally posted by: Powernick50
Which features? I'm a noob when it comes to computer building. I won't really be doing a raid config.
I'll be using an 8400. I want to overclock but I'm no pro. DDR3 would be nice eventually?
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Here's the thing with DDR3. Moving to DDR3, by itself, isn't going to have much impact on your system performance. By the time you move to DDR3, it'll be because you're buying a new CPU and mobo anyway. Don't waste the money on a combo board.

For your usage it sounds like the P35-DS3L is fine, but I believe it requires a BIOS update to accommodate the Wolfdale chips. You might want to check on that before you buy. I have no idea whether the DS3R/DS3P have that issue.

For what it's worth, the onboard sound on the DS3R is supposed to be noticeably better than on the DS3L. That said, the DS3L's onboard sound is good enough for me.
 
Originally posted by: DSF
Originally posted by: Powernick50
Which features? I'm a noob when it comes to computer building. I won't really be doing a raid config.
I'll be using an 8400. I want to overclock but I'm no pro. DDR3 would be nice eventually?
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Here's the thing with DDR3. Moving to DDR3, by itself, isn't going to have much impact on your system performance. By the time you move to DDR3, it'll be because you're buying a new CPU and mobo anyway. Don't waste the money on a combo board.

For your usage it sounds like the P35-DS3L is fine, but I believe it requires a BIOS update to accommodate the Wolfdale chips. You might want to check on that before you buy. I have no idea whether the DS3R/DS3P have that issue.

For what it's worth, the onboard sound on the DS3R is supposed to be noticeably better than on the DS3L. That said, the DS3L's onboard sound is good enough for me.
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There is also a difference of 4sata ports (DS3R has 8). If you are buying sata optical drives this might be something you'll want to take into consideration - or have a lot of sata HDDs
 
Originally posted by: jaredpace
buy one that has pipes on the NB and PWM that will be the p35c ds3p ds4, dq6 or better
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Why p35c instead of p35? Is it worth paying an extra $35 just to get DDR3 slots that you probably won't populate? Your choice, of course, but I won't.

Originally posted by: nevbie
I'd probably pick GA-P35-DS3 if I were you. It's like DS3R but without RAID.
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Um, from where? I can find DS3L, DS3P and DS3R in stores, but not the DS3. I can find the specs for it at Gigabyte's website, but I can't find it in any stores.

Watch out for revision 1 of the boards (they should be gone now) but the information about them is still around. The revision 1 boards had legacy serial and parallel connectors on the back panel. Revision 2 of the boards have serial and parallel headers on the board, but replaced the connectors on the back panel with additional USB connectors. Judging by the comments on newegg that seems to have confused quite a few people.

Edit: It turns out that the GA-P35-DS3L boards kept the parallel and serial ports on the back panel in Rev. 2. Also, the GA-P35-DS3P is OOS (discontinued?), but Newegg is now selling the GA-EP35-DS3P, which has exactly the same specs as far as I can tell. I have no idea what the "E" in front of the P35 means.
 
[qutoe]I have no idea what the "E" in front of the P35 means.[/quote]
it stand for DES "dynamic energy saver"
have a look here
Code: 
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1272/gigabyte_s_dynamic_energy_saver_detailed/index.html
 
Originally posted by: foghorn67
The DS3R has no issues with the 8400. I know that because I posting from this setup now.
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Do you know what revision you have? 2.0 or 2.1? The reason I'm asking is people (including me) are worried about the DS3L boards at the end of this thread. I think the latest revision of the DS3L boards might be Rev. 2.0, which might not be even able to load the new BIOS with an E8400 installed. I guess I'll find out Monday if my board is delivered.

Originally posted by: murymury
[qutoe]I have no idea what the "E" in front of the P35 means.
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it stand for DES "dynamic energy saver"
have a look here
Code: 
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1272/gigabyte_s_dynamic_energy_saver_detailed/index.html
[/quote]

Thanks. I had already figured out what the "E" means thanks to a different thread, but that article included some information that I didn't know yet. Anandtech's article started out too detailed for me.

BTW, as you've probably figured out, this forum doesn't use the normal BBCodes.
 
That's about 40% more expensive, and some people (including me) already have the DS3L ordered. But, yeah, Rev. 2.1 of both the DS3R and DS3P boards support the 45nm CPUs right out of the box and also support the DES software (but you might have to download it in the case of the P35 boards). The DS3L board requires the F8a beta BIOS for the E8xxx Wolfdale CPUs and can't run the DES software, as I understand it.

What I don't know, but will probably find out Monday, is if a DS3L board, which ships with the F7 BIOS, can at least install the F8a BIOS with a Wolfdale processor installed. It seems reasonable that it might at least run sub-optimally with a Wolfdale processor, since it had full support for the 45nm Yorkfield processors since F6. That's not been definitively answered, IMO, although Gigabyte customer support has told people that it won't work. (I have to believe someone has tried it by now, but I haven't seen any report of that yet.)

EDIT: Just a couple of seconds with Google, and I found several posts elsewhere where people had no problems running the DS3L out of the box with an E8400, despite what Gigabyte said. It would still be worth updating the BIOS, I suspect.
 
Originally posted by: jaredpace
buy one that has pipes on the NB and PWM that will be the p35c ds3p ds4, dq6 or better


stay away from the s3g p31 p33 or ds3l. Not that they're bad, but that you're spending 160, get some quality.
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😱

I cant believe im reading this right.

+1


LOL... if not look for the P5K-E *hiding in the corner with n7*
 
Originally posted by: Powernick50
Which features? I'm a noob when it comes to computer building. I won't really be doing a raid config.
I'll be using an 8400. I want to overclock but I'm no pro. DDR3 would be nice eventually?
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Do you need firewire ?
 
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Version 2.0
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Thanks!

I just got my P35-DS3L, rev 2.0, with F7 BIOS. Officially F8a (beta) is required for the E8400, but I am having no problems so far running the E8400. I've run the Ultimate Boot CD and Ultimate Boot CD for Windows (that based on Bart PE and Win XP). CPU-Z had no trouble recognizing the E8400. See my post at the top of the second page in this thread for some of the CPU-Z output.
 
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