Which close future processer should be value for money??

ajaidevsingh

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i5 from Intel seems quite good but is a broken derivative if the i7 and the different socket totally kills the idea of going from i5 to i7. but with support for DDR3 at least i would be able to change that in between platforms.

Here are some i5 tests :-

http://www.techpowerup.com/783...Core_i5_Conducted.html

As you can see its quite comparable to i7 at similar speeds but will be released only after Q3 2009.

The 945 is an AMD processor that is similar to the i5 i terms of the targeted audience and is on the AM2+/AM3 socket thus supports DDR2 and also DDR3. That means i can buy a PhII 945 and use it on my old AM2+ Mb till DDR3 prices come down and then buy new Mb and ram combo.

As for results i suspect 945 and 940 will offer same performance in a AM2+ Mb



What do you all think 945 is a better choice or i5??

Also people who say that there is no point in asking about not yet released processors well if one does not sell the q6600 processor soon its face value will hit rock bottom quite soon and i dont want to sell my processor for a huge loss!!
 

taltamir

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I can not predict the future with THAT level of accuracy.
We have no idea what those will be priced at.
 

ajaidevsingh

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Ya i know but till that time the cost of my q6600 will be totally destroyed and if i have to pay for new ddr3 sticks and new mb i should sell what i have now to save up for the new system!!
 

RaptureMe

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I would'nt go with C-i5 since its going to be the main stream desktop version for the average joe shmoe while the C-i7 which is the server version socket is more for the extreme PC enthusiast.
The reason being is C-i5 only gets a "6 core" with "12 total threads" within its life time while C-i7 gets to have a sweet "8 core" with "16 total threads".
You do the math its kind of a no brainer dont ya think??
Why wait for a new socket thats not going to give you the upgrade path that you will want when the time comes when you can grab a C-I7 system now and upgrade to that octo-core in the summer or fall of this year??
I would say grab a core i7 and forget the amd phenom II 940 for now as the new phenoms are only going to match last years model of C2Q 45nm.
Its not even going to come close to catching up with a C-i7.
Also the new phenom II AM3+ motherbaords only have 4 DDR3 Ram Slots While Intels C-i7 1366 have 6 Ram Slots.
I am not trying to be a fan boy or put down amd as I love amd its just they are not putting out the technology that needs to be brought out to compete against there rival intel.
At the same time though I wouldnt want to see you rush in and buy something and like a month later have buyer remorse..
 

aigomorla

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the PHII wasnt even ment to go up against the i7 arch.

Originally posted by: RaptureMe

The reason being is C-i5 only gets a "6 core" with "12 total threads" within its life time while C-i7 gets to have a sweet "8 core" with "16 total threads".
You do the math its kind of a no brainer dont ya think??

excuse me?

When did intel ever plan for i7 to come as an octopackage?
Are you talking about gainestown? Because then its a DP system. Dual processor.

Youve seen how large the die is on a i7? There is almost no chance intel can fit one side by side.
 

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
the PHII wasnt even ment to go up against the i7 arch.

Originally posted by: RaptureMe

The reason being is C-i5 only gets a "6 core" with "12 total threads" within its life time while C-i7 gets to have a sweet "8 core" with "16 total threads".
You do the math its kind of a no brainer dont ya think??

excuse me?

When did intel ever plan for i7 to come as an octopackage?
Are you talking about gainestown? Because then its a DP system. Dual processor.

Youve seen how large the die is on a i7? There is almost no chance intel can fit one side by side.

Maybe he's assuming that when we see 32nm Nehalem arch processors they will still be fine in X58 boards (which they may well be) but then there's no guarantee of that. Also it's quite a while away.

IMO the amount you will have to spend now to be able to get resale value on your Q6600 will be the same as if you wait and buy later, and lose money on your Q6600.
Either sell now and spend lots on new stuff, or sell later and spend less on new stuff.

If your only reason to upgrade is because you don't want to lose money on your Q6600, then you need your head checking.
 

RaptureMe

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"HE" being me is not assuming anything.
This info for the octo core has be available for some time now.
I think it was leaked something like the time C-i7 was realeased.
The info was leaked about the same time as the info for C-i5 was leaked.
Do a google and you should come up with something.
For that matter there are a few ops here that know more about them then I maybe you should talk to gary about this info.
I dont want to break NDA in anyway but C-i7 is the route to go..
 

ajaidevsingh

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@Lonyo the thing is i can sell the q6600 now for more money and also spend less on new stuff later.

The only question is that is it justified to wait as long as Q3 2009 for the i5 or should i just go for the PhII which would come in at a similar price rage if not cheaper!!!
 

RaptureMe

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Bro if your hell bent on getting something right this very second and it has to be C-i5 or phenom II then get the phenom II.
If it were me though I would get a C-i7 and skip the other 2..
 

taltamir

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i don't quite understand the logic of the OP... so you want to sell the Q6600 now for more money, and then just wait without a PC for a while and than buy a nehalem? what are you going to use for all those months while the prices change?

If you are talking about buying a system now... well, no way! Your Q6600 will depreciate significantly LESS than the new chips coming out. Buying "futureproof" stuff now will cost you a LOT more than waiting until its actually the future and buying them than.