Which CD-RW drive is better?

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Hyudra

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The TDK: veloCD 16x/10x/40x or the TDK: veloCD 12x/10x/32x.

Price isn't an issue. Just wondering which one is better w/ features and stuff. If you know they have the same features, then I'm getting the TDK: veloCD 16x/10x/40x.
 
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Noriaki

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Well plextor makes the 12/10/32 I don't think they make the 16/10/40 but the two drives have basically the same features.

But around this BBS buying a CDRW that isn't a plextor or at least a re-badged plextor is guarnateed to piss in someone's cornflakes.
 
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mrVW

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Hell, for the price difference... you can get TWO 12x burners for the price of a 16x. That's what I did. Now I can burn at 24x :)

 
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Hyudra

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So which is better?, the plextor or sanyo?
Or should I say which one would I be more satisfied with... I've seen the 12x for $150 w/ rebates, but I can get either one for $150 (Don't ask how).
 
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The sanyo will probably be perfectly fine. If you can get the 16x for a good price that get it.

A lot of people around here prefer plextor, but I have used several different brands including HP, Panasonic, Creative and they have all work perfectly fine. If you want burn proof, or support for cloneCD then you might have to be more picky when choosing a drive...
 
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Hyudra

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Hm, both do have burnproof which is useful, but I don't even know what CloneCD is, so I guess that doesn't affect me. I guess the sanyo is the way to go. Thx, guys, unless you one of you guys got a real good reason not to get the sanyo and go for the plextor.
 
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Noriaki

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The sanyo will be a perfectly good Drive, Sanyo invented BURNproof and licensed it to Plextor, so I'm sure a Rebadged Sanyo's burnproof will work just as well.
 
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correct me if im wrong, but aren't both the plex 12x10x32x and the tdk 12x10x32x rebadged sanyo's, just like the tdk 16x10x40x? just keep your eyes open for a 16x plex that is another rebadged sanyo
 
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Sugadaddy

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Plextor makes their own drives, none of them are rebadged Sanyos.

Hyudra: get the 16X if you can get it for the same price.
 
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divinemartyr

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The 16x TDK has burnproof, which to me is essentially a useless option if your PC is fast enough (700+ mhz) and I would go with the 16x TDK. You always have time to return the drive if it doesn't work out. The TDK 12x is an excellent drive as I own one, and I assume the 16x follows the same model.

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DaBoogieman

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If Price is not an issue then the Yamaha 16x is the drive to get. The plextor and the Sanyo 16x both cannot read sub channel data so if your intending to backup copy protected software you cant with either of those drives. The new firmware about to be released for the Plex 12x10x32 is going to disable sub channels as well. They are all jumping on the anti-pirate (anti-consumer) bandwagon. Yamaha doesnt seem to be following this trend instead they are dealing with new forms of copy protection via firmware and enabling you to copy these programs rather than disabling it.

If all you intend to do is back up files from your hard drive any of the drives will work fine for that just get the one that appeals to you the most. The TDK does look really cool with that blue plastic ;)

Something to think about though folks regardless of how loyal you are to Plextor. Why be loyal to a company with a policy like this that is basically screwing you over?
 
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MCS

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No point asking any of these guys here because everybody will say Plextor :)

I myself have an HP-9310 which I think is great but I don't think Plextor are as common place in the UK as in the US.
 
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Hyudra

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Oh forget the TDK 16x then if it can't copy protected software. I guess I'll go with the Yamaha CRW2100EZ, since thats 16x, but still can copy. Any one got reasons not to get this thing, other than looks?

Hm checking out the cdrwcentral, the yamaha doesn't even totally go at 16x all the time and doesn't even come with nero and stuff, so the TDK 12x a good deal too ? Man I wanna get the 16x, but it doesn't sound so great, the 12x doesn't have the copy protection yet, right?
 
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DaBoogieman

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Some do some dont. The Yamaha uses a technology that starts off at 12 or something in that range and works its way up to 16x no further than 15 minutes into the cd (About 5 or 10 seconds worth of burntime). The reason they do this is to make access times quicker. In essence the drive starts burning while it is spinning up to 16x I see this as an advantage not a disadvantage. Compare the reviews at cdrinfo.com of the Yamaha and the Sanyo. The Sanyo is a full 16x drive yet it is slower than the Yamaha.

I will admit the Yamaha is ugly compared to the TDK but I can live with that for the performance increase. If your into looks then the TDK is obviously the only drive for you though. Just keep in mind the compatibiltiy issues.

Best of luck!
Post here and let us know what you think of whichever drive you get!



 
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Doomguy

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It dosent matter if the 16x TDK can read subchannel data or not if you have a reader that reads subchannel data. It can write subchannel data without a problem.
 
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mrVW

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Does it really matter that much?

Consider your cost. If you really are into "what is better?" then in 3 months a new model is going to be better, no matter what you get. Don't go spending $230 on a drive that is only 20% faster when you could get the slower one for 1/2 the price... because in 3 or 6 months, they will both not be the best!

Just my $0.02; CD-R drives are only going to come down more. Year 2000 was the heating up of the competition, this year there is TOO MUCH competition. The 12x drives are already being dumped... in 3 months, I expect to see the TDK / Plextor / Iomega 12x10x32 selling for $70 after rebate... with Lite-On and others now producing Burn-proof models, Burn-proof cloans (JustLink) now out, there are more choices than ever!
 
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DaBoogieman

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I can't help but think that burnproof is the most overhyped feature ever LOL I've been doing some research on burnproof and essentially the only disc its ever going to save is a backup of files on hardrive etc...If you are copying copy protected CD's and burnproof 'saves' you it leaves a gap where it starts burning again essentially ruining the disc anyway. In some cases it will save you however I have now burned over 50 discs on my Yamaha without burnproof and only have one coaster which came about from Quake locking up while I was burning the disc.

And nope burnproof wouldnt have saved this disc either...burnproof can only resume a burn while the burn is in progress so if the program locks up or you have to reboot for some reason (The only time I've ever seen coasters made) then your screwed anyway.

So just how many times has burnproof saved you folks out there that seem to swear by it? I'd love to hear some stories as I see no real use for burnproof for the purposes in which I use my CDR.


 
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