Which cards to eliminate/lower limit to improve my score? (long-term goal: mortgage)

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Long story short:
Your suggestions really saved my credit. Now I need to know which cards to cancel to improve my already improving credit score. All my previous balances are now part of a loan and two new credit cards with 0% promo APRs for the next year+. All the old credit lines remain open at ridiculous interest rates (not worth using). Some have higher credit limits and I fear that canceling them will affect the amount future creditors are willing to lend ("Everyone else is only risking $1,500 to $3,000 so we aren't going to step out and offer $8,000!").


Long story:
Back in July, Prosper.com told me that my credit score was too low to get a loan but someone here on ATOT suggested LendingClub.com and everything has changed (THANKS!). I thought it was abysmal due to being near the maximum limits on all my cards, but they said I had a 710 score through Transunion and the LendingClub community loaned me $4,800 at 12% (36 months) as a credit consolidation load to pay down a lot of the balances on my other cards. I had a lot more than that on my other cards but 12% was MUCH better than what I was paying and it freed up about $150 a month that would have just gone to paying interest on some ridiculously high APRs.

So, I was near the maximum on all my cards and most of my payments every month were being wasted on interest. I had a $3,000 credit line on my Bank of America Gold card, which was at a RIDICULOUS interest fate of over 25%. I had $5,500 and $1,500 credit lines on my two Chase Rewards cards, which were 18.99 and 23.99% respectively. I also had about $100 0% balance on a $300 Best Buy credit card. I paid off and canceled a Fry's Electronics card around the same time.

So, even though it wasn't enough to pay off all of those lines of credit, I knew that it was bad to be near the maximum on any card so I didn't just put $3,000 on BofA and the remainder on the $5.5K Chase card. Instead, I made a weighted distribution with most of it going on the highest APR card. This left about $800 each on the higher APR Chase and BofA cards and I resolved to pay them down an extra $100 over the minimum each month with all the money I was saving in interest. I still had about $3,400 on the other Chase card and paid off the Best Buy balance while it was still promotional.

There was obviously a HUGE spike in my credit score because I started getting pre-approved 0% balance transfer offers only a month and a half later. I transferred all my balances to a new $4,500 Chase Slate (about $4,000 on it) and $5,000 Discover CashBack Bonus (about 2,500 on it). At the time of approval, Discover reported a FICO 738 from Equifax. That's a nice bump since July. Anyway, I needed a car because it's winter and I moved back to GA where my motorcycle can't be my only transportation, so I'm financed on a cheap new Toyota Corolla where they let me take an less-common 7-year term because my score was "so good" (finance manager's words), so I think it may have gone up since then.

I called BofA and told them to lower the rate or else I was canceling. They said they could only enable a year of 1.9% APR promo, which I accepted because I'm keeping it open for overdraft protection (linked to checking account). I don't know if I should have them lower the balance or not because I don't want to close the only two cards I have with higher balances in case it looks like I can't handle a larger amount.

So, after all that, my concern is that if I just close my $5,500 Chase and reduce my $3,000 BofA lines of credit (~$500), I'll be less likely to get approved for larger lines of credit when I need it in the future, such as transferring to a new promotional 0% offer once the promo runs out on my current balances. I obviously can't keep everything open because too much available credit looks bad. I'd like to know if this is a solid plan:
$300 Best Buy - Close
$1,500 Chase Rewards - Close
$5,500 Chase Rewards - Leave open with no balance - Negotiate better rate
$3,000 Bank of America - Renegotiated - Leave open with no balance for overdraft protection - Lower limit to $1,000
$4,500 Chase Slate - Leave open and pay down over 1.25 year 0% promotional period
$5,000 Discover Bonus - Leave open and pay down over 1.25 year 0% promo period

Remember, all of those are paid off except the last two and I can probably count on getting more promotional offers by that time, especially because they will be much lower balances by that time. Heck, I'm *STILL* getting the offers even with all my credit at 0%! The problem is that it only lowers my total available credit by $3,000. I don't think it's a good idea to get rid of the $5.5K Chase because none of the others have offered me that much and it raises the average available from each creditor, which I assume makes me appear less risky to loan higher amounts to. I'd rather have one good $8-10K offer than all this and I'd like to work toward that. With LendingClub and my car loan building up my non-credit card credit history, I'd like to do what I can here to raise my credit score so that I can get a good mortgage in a few years. If possible, I'm aiming for 800+ FICO Experian in the next year and hopefully even higher beyond. I really make very little as a security guard so I may take a second full-time job to do it. Assuming I ever get that far, I'd be getting the house with at least two others on the mortgage, so don't knock me and my $10hr security guard job just because I'm now thinking about a house! ;)
 
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kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Your situation is simple: do not close any cards. It will not benefit you in any way. The best thing to do to boost your score is pay down the remaining cards.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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First of all, pay off the 25% APR card right away and then the next highest APR and go down the next one and so on.

DO NOT cancel any cards. It will affect your "longevity" part of the credit score. As long as a card balance is zero and no annual fee, I don't see a problem to keep it open.

Pay down as much of what you owe as soon as you can and keep them as low as you could.

Read this = http://money.msn.com/credit-rating/
 
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Train

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IANAE but I would think closing them could only hurt and not help at this point.

6 cards open isnt bad, most people don't realize they actually have more than this open if you count store cards.

Just try and use each one once a month or so just to keep them from going idle. Some CC companies get paranoid about idle accounts because thats where a lot of identity the happens.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Thanks a lot. I always thought it was bad to have a ton of available credit. Now, I know better. You guys are awesome.
 

spidey07

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Thanks a lot. I always thought it was bad to have a ton of available credit. Now, I know better. You guys are awesome.

You want a ton of available credit that you don't utilize, your revolving credit utilization, as a percentage, is a big part. better to have 100k credit, using 5-10 than 10k using 5-10.
 
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RockinZ28

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Mar 5, 2008
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Have a question.

Couple weeks ago I opened a new BofA cc to get the $275 cb bonus. Gave me a limit of $2,500. My TransUnion score from CreditKarma went up 2 points for a score of 758.

Then last week I was sick of only getting 1% cb at Amazon.com, so I applied and was approved for an Amazon Chase Rewards card with a $5,000 limit.

Out of curiosity I checked with the CreditKarma score simulator to see what my score might be from adding a new card with $5k limit.

It's reporting my score will drop to 698! Wtf? Is it just borked or what? In the past it has been rather accurate, so has me worried. My credit inquiries should still be 4 or less in the last 2 years. Only other thing it will effect is my average credit account length, but that has been in the F percentage all along anyway, since even my oldest account isn't 2 years old.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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^What others have said. Don't close anything, pay down the balances. Better to have more credit available and a lower utilisation.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Have a question.

Couple weeks ago I opened a new BofA cc to get the $275 cb bonus. Gave me a limit of $2,500. My TransUnion score from CreditKarma went up 2 points for a score of 758.

Then last week I was sick of only getting 1% cb at Amazon.com, so I applied and was approved for an Amazon Chase Rewards card with a $5,000 limit.

Out of curiosity I checked with the CreditKarma score simulator to see what my score might be from adding a new card with $5k limit.

It's reporting my score will drop to 698! Wtf? Is it just borked or what? In the past it has been rather accurate, so has me worried. My credit inquiries should still be 4 or less in the last 2 years. Only other thing it will effect is my average credit account length, but that has been in the F percentage all along anyway, since even my oldest account isn't 2 years old.

You opened two new accounts in a very short time. Your score is going to drop. Don't worry. If it really bothers you, stop applying for new credit.
 

CoachB

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God what a nightmare! Held hostage by the bank via the FICO score. You can't win cause the game is rigged. Cut up the cards, live within your means. OR go into politics, this behavior seems to be encouraged there.
 

RockinZ28

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Mar 5, 2008
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You opened two new accounts in a very short time. Your score is going to drop. Don't worry. If it really bothers you, stop applying for new credit.

But 60 points drop? That brings me from an A rating to a C rating if true. I understand it often drops a few points for the credit inquiry, but why a 60 point drop?

The first statement on my Amazon card doesn't close until January 27th, so hopefully that credit line won't even be reported to the bureaus until then.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Do you expect to need new credit in the near future? If not, don't worry. Your score will recover in a few months.

The score simulator is known to be erratic. It could be off a mile. Nobody knows the exact algorithms that FICO uses except FICO and if you are really concerned, go to myfico.com and pay for your genuine FICO score. You might find your score is only off a couple dozen points or even less.
 

RockinZ28

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Mar 5, 2008
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Do you expect to need new credit in the near future? If not, don't worry. Your score will recover in a few months.

The score simulator is known to be erratic. It could be off a mile. Nobody knows the exact algorithms that FICO uses except FICO and if you are really concerned, go to myfico.com and pay for your genuine FICO score. You might find your score is only off a couple dozen points or even less.

Well I am saving for a house down payment, and have been building my credit for the purpose of getting the best interest rate possible. Subtracting 60 points could take a year to recover from.

Don't have a time set for starting the process of home ownership, but want my credit rating to be there when I do decide.
 

kranky

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Six months before you plan to mortgage shop, get your FICO score at myfico.com. That way if there is a problem you have some time to deal with it. As your accounts age your score will grow. You nuked your average age of accounts by getting two new ones on a thin record that isn't even a couple years old. But given your short credit history, there is not a lot you can do proactively.

1. Keep balances low (under 10% of the credit line)
2. Don't have balances on multiple cards
3. Don't apply for new credit.
4. Make sure you have no late payments on your record
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Long story short:
Your suggestions really saved my credit. Now I need to know which cards to cancel to improve my already improving credit score.


Cancel all of your credit cards, run them through an industrial shredder, burn the chips from the shredder and send them straight to hell.

The best use of credit, is credit that is rarely used.
 

rcpratt

Lifer
Jul 2, 2009
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Cancel all of your credit cards, run them through an industrial shredder, burn the chips from the shredder and send them straight to hell.

The best use of credit, is credit that is rarely used.
Took you that long?
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Cancel all of your credit cards, run them through an industrial shredder, burn the chips from the shredder and send them straight to hell.

The best use of credit, is credit that is rarely used.

Bullshit. Credit/debt is used to build wealth. Ask any business.
 

rcpratt

Lifer
Jul 2, 2009
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Texashiker, I opened my new Chase Freedom card two weeks ago, woohoo! $7k limit on top of my other card with $17k. Let's go find us some debt!
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Texashiker, I opened my new Chase Freedom card two weeks ago, woohoo! $7k limit on top of my other card with $17k. Let's go find us some debt!

$17k limit on a credit card, are you crazy?

The thought of that much on a credit card makes me sick to my stomach.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Ahh, I just spent all $24k! Must find more! Omnomnomom


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