Prestige if you want to look like a rich guy get the BMW. In terms of which car is actually better? Well the Audi does look better as NFS4 said (when I said prestige i mean status - a BMW is still a "beemer". I don't know how the performance compares but Audis are really stealing my eye a lot recently they are sweet cars.
I kind of think BMWs are a bit snotty though as well.
<< Don't think so... the temperatur control in the A4 looks like somethink from the 80's... >>
Ahhhh, I think you're wrongo buddy You ever sat in an Audi? Those things are tight. The leather, materials finish, and overall ergonomics put BMW's stark, dark interiors to shame. And temperature control?? That's all you can come up with? Picky picky. Hmm, wonder if it looks like a piece of 80's equipment since it's also on the Porsche Boxster and Porsche 911 only with different face buttons...
Ah, perfect timing. I just test drove a 2001 BMW 325i sedan and a 2001 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro this week. I decided to go with the Audi because:
a.) It's about 8k cheaper (MSRP) with comparable options.
b.) I liked the Audi interior more.
c.) I thought the A4 felt sportier.
d.) With a ~$500 chip upgrade, you can turn the 1.8T into a 200+ hp monster.
e.) Audi Advantage: They pay for oil changes, tuneups, etc. except tires for 4 years/50k miles.
f.) Too many BMW's on the road anyway, Be Different.
I do like the look of the BMW better, and it's more prestigious, but the Audi was so much more car for less money.
I would definately take the Audi 1.8t Quattro over the BMW. For the 8k price difference I could turn that Audi into a 300hp plus beast. The AWD system is one of the main reasons I would take it over the BMW anyway.
What about the new Mercedes-Benz C class? They look like baby S classes, just like the Lexus IS sorta looks like a baby GS. The C240 is available with a 6spd manual here in the US too... can't wait to get home to go test drive one with my dad Actually, have you considered the IS300 too? It's damn cheap (about $33.5k nicely loaded) and it's a Lexus. Although some (like myself) don't think it's up to par with the rest of the Lexus family, I admit it is a nice car. My only complaints are the lack of an armrest/console in the middle and the lack of a 6spd tranny =D The chronograph dials look TIGHT though =)
Also, on Wangel's comment about BMW's service being better- I have to disagree. I have a friend with a '99 M3, and he says that the dealer treats him like sh*t. It may be the fact that he's 20 and drives a $40k car, but they (namely Assael BMW in S. Ca) don't give him the respect he deserves. I mean he got better service at the Honda dealer back when he had his Accord. I have another friend who was looking to get a new BMW, but they seemed to think that he was just a little punk kid just wanting to test drive a car, and that he wasn't really looking to buy a car. Keep in mind that this "punk kid" is a 30 year old graduate from Cal Tech. Turns out he went to the Audi dealer and picked himself up a nice little S4 =D While we're on the topic of service, I'd like to say that Lexus has excellent customer service. My friend (the one now with an M3) used to drive his parent's LS400, and when he would take it in to Longo Lexus (El Monte, CA) they would treat him really well. They have a huge underground service department complete with a lounge, refreshments, and even a putting green and a golfing net =D Talk about good facilities Anyways feel free to rant/rave/flame my message below =D
There will be a twin turbo v6 version available. When I was a VW mechanic one of our customers worked for the place here that tests VW and Audi. They are also testing an 8 cylinder Jetta with AWD and a 6 speed manual. Talk about a sleeper.