Which candidate serves middle class America?

Schadenfroh

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They all serve their own ego, pockets or their financial backers.

You have to stray pretty far from the center to find people that do not care about anything other than their ideology. If they cared about the above, they would tone down their rhetoric to appeal to a wider audience and slip in.
 

Moonbeam

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What else is new?. Look at the middle class. They don't serve the middle class so why would the folk they elect?

This is a thread born of hopelessness. Hopelessness is a mental prison.

There are two answers to our political situation. One way is real total indifference to the external world and internal gratitude for what on has. Everything happens according to the Will of God so everything that happens is perfect and to be accepted as such.

The other way is to work for the only thing that can change our political structure, the calling of a Constitutional Convention. It's the only way the middle class can get the government back by changing the rules that allow money to buy who runs for election and gets any attention.
 

Zebo

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none. from small town USA to halls of US congress it's about extracting from middle class to their benefactors. Every bill is a grant of discretion, all you need to know about them is who they benefit and 99.5% of the time it's not the middle class. From Obama's HC that made billionaires more billions to Bush's bank bailouts the banks were "begrudging forced" to take even though they came out the of meeting with Paulson smiling ear to ear.
 
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None of the above. There might be a candidate out there somewhere from some small third party who has absolutely no chance, but none of the mainstream candidates fit the bill.
 

Jeff7

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The middle class doesn't have a political voice that matters ($$$), so politicians don't really have to give a damn. They might pretend to do so, but it's just a lip service act as part of the campaign process.
 

Zebo

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Take that student loans thread. Rich don't get em. Poor don't either. By far the largest majority of student loan takers are middle class kids. And Congress made student loan debt unable to be discharged in bankruptcy. It was both Republican and Democrat Congresses and Presidents that went along with giving student loans a privileged position. To who's benefit did removing all the risk of bad lending with a govt guantee and unable discharge? A very small minority of bankers.
 

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Craig234

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The progressive candidate not in the election.

Obama is better than the Republicans, though.
 

Engineer

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Not a single one that I've seen....not a single one. The middle class is doomed until they rise up and take it back for themselves. History shows that The Matrix must be restarted from time to time.....looks like it's getting close to Neo going back to the source if you ask me.
 

Zebo

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Your mainstream and status quo candidate in bed with the very financial firms you loath is better then Ron Paul? LoL@U

And insurance, hosp, pharma - basically anyone that has massive cash to keep ponzi financial system going. Has to be that way if you want any traction though and why RP is dismissed as a joke by mainstream media and elite inside the beltway pundits on those shows. It's also why he has hardly any cash comparatively. I read Obama will get over 1 billion this cycle and it's not from people buying $20 obama T shirts either.
 

Engineer

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And insurance, hosp, pharma - basically anyone that has massive cash to keep ponzi financial system going. Has to be that way if you want any traction though and why RP is dismissed as a joke by mainstream media and elite inside the beltway pundits on those shows. It's also why he has hardly any cash comparatively. I read Obama will get over 1 billion this cycle and it's not from people buying $20 obama T shirts either.

What is more amazing is he is getting that much and being labeled as an "anti business President". :hmm:

Obama sucks just as much as the rest of them in the grand scheme of things. The 3 - so called free trade agreements that he signed Friday as well as giving in to Mexico on the truck driving jobs finally drove the nail in his coffin for me. I'm left with no candidates to now vote for.....

I'll start a new search before election and if I can't find anyone, I might just write Ross Perot in as he was the most correct of them all....
 

HomerJS

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Presidential candidates with the most money win 96% of the time.

Last elections 93% of the house and 94% of the Senate.


This needs to change.
 

Throckmorton

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The middle class is mostly too ignorant for any candidate to have to serve them.

Just look at those "I am not the 99%" idiots who talk about how hard they work and how they don't complain, and think that somehow makes them the 1% even though they're dirt poor.
 

Engineer

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Presidential candidates with the most money win 96% of the time.

Last elections 93% of the house and 94% of the Senate.


This needs to change.

Not sure that correlation = causation in this case. The "most popular" (or most non-least popular) tends to get the most money, no?
 

Attic

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I like the above mention for a shout out to Ross Perot.

From 1992 Presidential Debate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OKYVH2Gaec

Hind sight is 20/20, but I can't help but indulge in the idea of what may have been if Ross Perot was elected. The treatment of Ross Perot by the media also highlights the disastrous effect the media has in the political landscape. It is clear the media is not serving the interests of what would help the majority of Americans achieve better government representation.


Middle class is in a catch 22 as has been described by the other posts in this thread, we would need a paradigm shift in government in order to see the middle class be legitimately represented.
 
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Engineer

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I like the above mention for a shout out to Ross Perot.

From 1992 Presidential Debat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OKYVH2Gaec

Hind sight is 20/20, but I can't help but indulge in the idea of what may have been if Ross Perot was elected.


Middle class is in a catch 22 as has been described by the other posts in this thread, we would need a paradigm shift in government in order to see the middle class be legitimately represented.

The man had it right all along..and people still won't listen to his advise even as it continues to unfold. Hell, we keep "repeating" the same stuff over and over and over hoping for the "desired result".....sounds like INSANITY to me.
 

Infohawk

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I'm left with no candidates to now vote for.....

I'll start a new search before election and if I can't find anyone, I might just write Ross Perot in as he was the most correct of them all....

The final straw for me was Obama saying he's not going to actively deport illegals unless they have criminal records. Both parties seem to want to turn the US into a third world country. It's amazing.

Normally third parties have no shot, but this may be one of those rare periods in history when there's a chance. Someone really needs to jump in here and plenty of people will be willing to vote for him/her.
 

Engineer

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The final straw for me was Obama saying he's not going to actively deport illegals unless they have criminal records. Both parties seem to want to turn the US into a third world country. It's amazing.

Normally third parties have no shot, but this may be one of those rare periods in history when there's a chance. Someone really needs to jump in here and plenty of people will be willing to vote for him/her.

They still have no shot. No matter how much people say that they are not going to vote for "their" guy, they almost always do. I'll waste my vote but I won't feel bad about the next asshole in the offices sending the majority (99%) of us down the drain.
 

JS80

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False question. In order for society to function the middle class must get raped.
 

Infohawk

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They still have no shot. No matter how much people say that they are not going to vote for "their" guy, they almost always do. I'll waste my vote but I won't feel bad about the next asshole in the offices sending the majority (99%) of us down the drain.

The Republican party was a third party. Sometimes big shifts in history allow for a new party. There's more an more appetite for a big shift in American politics if someone can provide leadership.