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Which AMD processor has internal gpu equiv to intel 4th generation ?

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you2

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I've not paid much attention to AMD processors in recent years and as long as I'm thinking about upgrading my linux box to haswell (from sb) to boost the gpu I figured I should check into AMD. Also is there a power consumption comparison between the AMD processor and intel?

(I know that intel cpu is faster but this box is mostly used for web browsing/video; heck a snap dragon 800 could probably power it though some of the software might not like the arm instruction set).
 
You probably want an A10-6800k, or an A10-6700 if the power consumption bothers you. Either of them outperforms the graphics in the i7-4770k.
 
Not sure how integrated vs discrete cards compare with linux compatibility, but why not just add a discrete card to the system that you have if the performance is not what you want?

If you have an i5 or i7, an AMD apu would be a downgrade cpu wise, but as far as igp goes, yes, the A10 is still ahead of Haswell on the desktop, although the margin has narrowed.
 
To answer the questions above:
a) SB is struggling a little on my monitor (I run linux and it might be an optmization problem)
b) rather not add a discrete card - power - i run this system 24/7.
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I can suffer a bit of a cpu downgrade - but this at least allows me to check amd price and power consuption (though i suspect it uses more power given that intel has gotten fairly efficient here)
 
It sounds like your issue is one of Linux driver optimization. I'm not really sure how upgrading to a newer platform is gong to help that. If anything, newer platforms are going to be more "bleeding edge", and are likely to have less optimizations. You might not even get support at all.
 
VirtualLarry said:
It sounds like your issue is one of Linux driver optimization. I'm not really sure how upgrading to a newer platform is gong to help that. If anything, newer platforms are going to be more "bleeding edge", and are likely to have less optimizations. You might not even get support at all.
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haswell has had linux support months before release and richland is still using vliw4 so the r600 drivers should be perfectly compatible, and the catalyst just added the latest xorg, so ubuntu is properly supported now.
 
Another vote for the A10-6700. A damn versatile chip for the power envelope.

Or you could get a 5800K/6800K and downclock/undervolt. I've got my IGP overclocked by a lot, as well as the NB speed and memory speed, but downclocking the CPU and disabling Turbo has me at the point of only drawing around 105w from the wall at full GPU and CPU load.
 
I have a G550 with HD1000 graphics running on Linux Mint 13 and I HIGHLY suspect the graphics driver that controls the Intel IGP in the Linux kernel is not up to par. Artifacts best described as "waves" would show when I played 720p video and even browsing and scrolling resulted in a subtle "straight line" showing up on the screen. This problem disappeared after I stuffed an XFX Geforce 210 in there today. The card is currently using just the nouveau driver.

What is your current CPU, you2? Because this 5450 should fix the sucky graphics no-problem:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150668
 
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I have a SB 2500k. Sounds like maybe I should just stick with it and skip the haswel upgrade for now. I do a little compute bound stuff but when I do i'm usually fine with it running over night so I don't require additional cpu power. I'll probably boost the memory from 8gb to 16gb next time I need to open the box up.

Torn Mind said:
I have a G550 with HD1000 graphics running on Linux Mint 13 and I HIGHLY suspect the graphics driver that controls the Intel IGP in the Linux kernel is not up to par. Artifacts best described as "waves" would show when I played 720p video and even browsing and scrolling resulted in a subtle "straight line" showing up on the screen. This problem disappeared after I stuffed an XFX Geforce 210 in there today. The card is currently using just the nouveau driver.

What is your current CPU, you2? Because this 5450 should fix the sucky graphics no-problem:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150668
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If you want a Linux graphics upgrade, idle power use is a concern, and you have a 2500k already... get a nVidia card, get a 640 or 650 with low idle-power, and call it a day.

It'll be a massive upgrade, nVidia cards have historically had better Linux drivers, and the 7w extra power draw is probably less money than I spend on additional A/C cooling after passing gas.
 
dave_the_nerd said:
If you want a Linux graphics upgrade, idle power use is a concern, and you have a 2500k already... get a nVidia card, get a 640 or 650 with low idle-power, and call it a day.

It'll be a massive upgrade, nVidia cards have historically had better Linux drivers, and the 7w extra power draw is probably less money than I spend on additional A/C cooling after passing gas.
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Or leaving the light bulb on too long, since even a CFL is gobbling up about 9-13 W. Turning down the refrigerator one setting or skipping one meal prepared on an elective stove would compensate for the increased power from a cheapo low-power GPU. Or, underclocking and undervolting the 2500K.

Getting an APU would result in a substantial downgrade in CPU performance just to fix a driver problem.
 
Reports on Phoronix say Intel software engineers regularly enhance different aspects of Intel's Linux graphics support. As a "free" diagnostic, I suggest upgrading your kernel. Debian has binaries for a recent kernel(s) in it's experimental repository. Procedures vary by distribution.
 
I run ubuntu. The latest LTS is 12.04; with the next LTS scheduled for next year. I might upgrade to 13.10 but might wait for the next LTS. Some of the fixes get backported into the LTS but some don't.
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Anyways I think right now I'll just skip the cpu/mb upgrade and wait another year or two unless I get a larger monitor that absolutely require more umph.
 
you2 said:
To answer the questions above:
a) SB is struggling a little on my monitor (I run linux and it might be an optmization problem)
b) rather not add a discrete card - power - i run this system 24/7.
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I can suffer a bit of a cpu downgrade - but this at least allows me to check amd price and power consuption (though i suspect it uses more power given that intel has gotten fairly efficient here)
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Get a HD 5450 or 6450. Either is more powerful than the SB GPU and both will have better Linux driver support. These things consume about 8 watts under full load. You'd have to be running them for a couple decades to overcome the cost of getting a whole new platform.
 
you2 said:
I run ubuntu. The latest LTS is 12.04; with the next LTS scheduled for next year. I might upgrade to 13.10 but might wait for the next LTS. Some of the fixes get backported into the LTS but some don't.
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Anyways I think right now I'll just skip the cpu/mb upgrade and wait another year or two unless I get a larger monitor that absolutely require more umph.
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I am waiting to see what happens surounding mir and wayland becuase I do want to support ubuntu but I also want to support the greater community
 
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