Well, I've filled up my current weenie 40gb hard drive, and am upgrading to a 200gb hard drive. Problem is I'm hearing a ton of mixed reviews from the 3 major manufacturers for the drives (WD, maxtor, seagate). So I'm looking for opinions on which would be the best. The first choice is WD, as I've always been a WD fan, however it seems like these new drives run overly hot, and seem to have a higher failure rate over the other 2?
Which 200gb Hard Drive brand?
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i like the Seagate 200gb ones becase they use 100gb platters, are cool and quiet, and offer really good performance.
cheers,
dave
cheers,
dave
I've got 3 Seagates now, 40GB, 80GB and 120GB. I've had no problems, and they are completely silent! I recommend buying a hard drive with FDB (fluid dynamic bearings) to reduce sound. There's nothing more annoying than that metallic whine that old ball-bearing hard drives make after a while.
Seagate and Samsung have both commited themselves to making quiet hard drives.
Seagate and Samsung have both commited themselves to making quiet hard drives.
I know your looking for a 200gb, but you could snatch a nice western digital 80gb off newegg for 67 bucks and best buy has a sale (after mir and instant rebates) it costs 49.99.
VirtualLarry
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I've been somewhat partial to WD myself, but have also picked up a couple of Maxtor drives due to sales. Right now you can get a 160GB Maxtor DM=9 FDB 8MB-cache HD for $80+tax, no rebate. I found that hard to refuse.
I don't think that WD drives run hot though, if anything they run cooler than Maxtors do. Some people complain about the bearing whine, but I actually find that overall, the WDs are also quieter than the Maxtors. They may have lower idle noies due to using FDB, but their seek noises are more noticable. Also, the WD are slightly faster. I can't give any first-hand accounts of the Seagate, Samsung, or Hitachi drives, I'll leave that to someone else to fill in. The new Seagate models do look really promising though, to me, with 100GB/platter and FDB.
I"m a western digital man myselt, I've got 6 WD drives and work everyone very vigorously... haven't had any problems.
VirtualLarry
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Seconded. My primary boot drive is an 80GB single-platter "JB" drive, and it works well, and is fast.
As for hard-working.. let me share this little anecdote. Due to some .. err.. "issues" with older version of Mozilla (memory leak), and the fact that my AMD XP2000 system only had 256MB of RAM at the time, and that I tend to leave my browser open for far too long of a stretch at times... I actually ended up with my primary HD swapping, HD activity light full-on, for FIVE DAYS STRAIGHT. Yes, a feat accomplished by no mere mortal HD. Forget those that claim that consumer HDs aren't up to a true, 24x7 duty-cycle.
A real torture-test, by any means. A small footnote though, I did end up with a couple of sectors that showed up a couple of months later, first as re-seek noises, and then pending remaps in SMART, and then when they were over-written, as remapped sectors in SMART. So I guess I might have "worn out" a few spots on the media, or something. (Due to thermal aspiration maybe?) But those are the only two remaps that I've had, and the drive has otherwise worked great.Disclaimer: I don't recommend trying this with your drives at home, though. I don't want to be responsible for killing any non-WD, "mere mortal" IDE HDs.
I would not recommend Seagate drives. The overall quality of Seagate drives has declined significantly in their latest generation ATA and SCSI products. Seagate drives have lower MTBF and higher rate of G-list growth than competing ATA products. I have no experience with Western Digital drives but Maxtor drives seem to be of reasonable quality. They tend to have problems with track encroachment on writes in performance mode and have had some problems with the grease from the fluid dynamic bearings leaking onto the heads, but they are much better than the comparable Seagate.
Seagate, because they don't fail like Maxtor.
Seagates are my favorite brand of hard drive by far.
Seagates are my favorite brand of hard drive by far.
i got a 160 samsung that has given me no problems, along with my maxtor and wd, also of no problems... guess im just lucky
This is simply not true. I work for a major storage vendor and Maxtor drives are our only qualified ATA supplier. Seagate drives fail at a much higher rate than Maxtor drives.
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Seagate, because they don't fail like Maxtor.
Seagates are my favorite brand of hard drive by far.
This is simply not true. I work for a major storage vendor and Maxtor drives are our only qualified ATA supplier. Seagate drives fail at a much higher rate than Maxtor drives.
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This isn't true. Dell and HP use mostly Seagate drives because of reliability. Who do YOU work for?
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Seagate, because they don't fail like Maxtor.
Seagates are my favorite brand of hard drive by far.
This is simply not true. I work for a major storage vendor and Maxtor drives are our only qualified ATA supplier. Seagate drives fail at a much higher rate than Maxtor drives.
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This isn't true. Dell and HP use mostly Seagate drives because of reliability. Who do YOU work for?
I work for EMC. Dell may use Seagate drives in their desktop products, but they do not use them in their enterprise ATA storage products. I should know, we make them.
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I work for EMC. Dell may use Seagate drives in their desktop products, but they do not use them in their enterprise ATA storage products. I should know, we make them.
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So you are saying that EMC uses exclusively Maxtor drives and is not currently using Seagate drives or doing any qualifying of Seagate drives?
I think the original poster is look for a desktop drive anyhow.....
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I work for EMC. Dell may use Seagate drives in their desktop products, but they do not use them in their enterprise ATA storage products. I should know, we make them.
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So you are saying that EMC uses exclusively Maxtor drives and is not currently using Seagate drives or doing any qualifying of Seagate drives?
I think the original poster is look for a desktop drive anyhow.....
I cannot say what we are currently qualifying (information regarding future products is EMC confidential). However, I can tell you we are not currently shipping any Seagate ATA drives. However, we do ship Seagate fibre channel drives.
I haven't noticed any difference between any of them. I buy on decision of price and capacity, not brand. I've had and have maxtors, wd, and seagate, and *currently* run 3 of each. I've had one of each brand die on me within a year and gotten warranty RMA on each, and the RMA was equally smooth for all three mfgrs. So my experience is equal for all three. I think in the future though I'll be buying maxline maxtors, just for the better warranty and supposedly better quality of IDE.
marketing bullshit. There is no difference between ata 100 and the so called ata 133. I love my seagate personally because my older generation maxtor whines like a freaking banshee.
As for failure rates, this is the first time I've heard of a so called expert claiming seagates fail more frequently than maxtors.
edit: note, current maxtors drives are significantly quieter from what I understand.
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This is simply not true. I work for a major storage vendor and Maxtor drives are our only qualified ATA supplier. Seagate drives fail at a much higher rate than Maxtor drives.
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http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=49855
"In a note to investors today, analyst Richard Kugele of Needham & Co. reports his firm is reducing their estimates on Maxtor for the next two years, based on a combination of factors that include a slowdown in distribution and rumors of quality problems at OEMs."
Just so were dealing with all the facts........
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I haven't noticed any difference between any of them. I buy on decision of price and capacity, not brand. I've had and have maxtors, wd, and seagate, and *currently* run 3 of each. I've had one of each brand die on me within a year and gotten warranty RMA on each, and the RMA was equally smooth for all three mfgrs. So my experience is equal for all three. I think in the future though I'll be buying maxline maxtors, just for the better warranty and supposedly better quality of IDE.
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I agree. I also have a couple of each drive. I just like the Seagates because they are silent which probably only means something if it's in a desktop.
The only drive I had fail was a Maxtor but they replaced it with no problem and speedy service.
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This is simply not true. I work for a major storage vendor and Maxtor drives are our only qualified ATA supplier. Seagate drives fail at a much higher rate than Maxtor drives.
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http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=49855
"In a note to investors today, analyst Richard Kugele of Needham & Co. reports his firm is reducing their estimates on Maxtor for the next two years, based on a combination of factors that include a slowdown in distribution and rumors of quality problems at OEMs."
Just so were dealing with all the facts........
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I haven't noticed any difference between any of them. I buy on decision of price and capacity, not brand. I've had and have maxtors, wd, and seagate, and *currently* run 3 of each. I've had one of each brand die on me within a year and gotten warranty RMA on each, and the RMA was equally smooth for all three mfgrs. So my experience is equal for all three. I think in the future though I'll be buying maxline maxtors, just for the better warranty and supposedly better quality of IDE.
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I agree. I also have a couple of each drive. I just like the Seagates because they are silent which probably only means something if it's in a desktop.
The only drive I had fail was a Maxtor but they replaced it with no problem and speedy service.
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Seagate, fastest are quietest and have 3 yr warranty but $. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-148-032&depa=1
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