Where's the Muslim's respect for Jewish and Christian Holy Sites?

Isla

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But on a daily, personal level...

There is a Muslim woman who works at my school as a paraprofessional, or "teacher's aide".

I am friendly to her, and I can TELL she appreciates it. She's an American. She may not be a Christian, but being American does not mean being a Christian or a Jew. I know that she appreciates the fact that I realize this. I am sure she is used to people avoiding her gaze, as she wears the head scarf thingy.

If we could just be respectful of each other in daily life, maybe we wouldn't have to worry about BS like this? I mean, isn't that WJWD?
 

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i can't believe you have the nerve to use two zionist websites to make your point.

when will you get banned?
 

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Originally posted by: Isla
But on a daily, personal level...

There is a Muslim woman who works at my school as a paraprofessional, or "teacher's aide".

I am friendly to her, and I can TELL she appreciates it. She's an American. She may not be a Christian, but being American does not mean being a Christian or a Jew. I know that she appreciates the fact that I realize this. I am sure she is used to people avoiding her gaze, as she wears the head scarf thingy.

If we could just be respectful of each other in daily life, maybe we wouldn't have to worry about BS like this? I mean, isn't that WJWD?

To be unfriendly to someone on the basis of their race, color, creed, sexual orientation, etc, is rather ignorant.

I'm missing what your comments have to do with Muslims setting an ancient Jewish synagogue on fire, and preventing fire trucks from putting out the blaze though.
 

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Jews Barred From Temple Mount While Mourning Destruction Of Temples
Arutz Sheva ^ | Av 9, 5764 / July 27, 2004 | Arutz Sheva

The Temple Mount - Judaism's holiest site - was closed to Jews today in response to Muslim threats of violence if Jews were allowed to visit.

The Temple Mount - Judaism's holiest site - was closed to Jews today in response to Muslim threats of violence if Jews were allowed to visit. The decision was made by Jerusalem Police Chief Ilan Franco, citing the threat of Arab violence toward Jews who would enter the holy site.

The closure is particularly painful for many Jews, as today is the Fast of Tisha B'Av - the 9th of the Jewish month of Av - marking the destruction of both the first and second Temples. Several other Jewish tragedies also took place on this date in history.

The decision to close the holy site to Jewish visitors came as a surprise to hundreds of people from across the country who had planned on ascending the Mount today.

The Supreme Court, hearing a petition by the Temple Mount Faithful yesterday, heard testimony from Franco himself to the effect that there appeared to be no necessity to close the Mount "unless an unusual security event occurs." Gershon Solomon, head of the Temple Mount Faithful organization, later summed up, "Based on this, the Court ruled that this would be the policy. Unfortunately, however, I have to say that Franco lied, in that he knew he was not planning to open the Mount; we see that there was no 'unusual security event,' and yet he still did not allow us to enter. This has been the policy ever since I remember on Tisha B'Av, and on many other holidays as well - not to allow the Temple Mount Faithful to enter the holy site, and consequently other Jews as well."

Solomon said that Franco's decision has "devastating political and security ramifications, including increased Islamic violence and destruction surrounding Temple Mount issues, as once again, threats of Islamic violence have achieved their desired result."

Members of the Temple Mount Faithful marched instead around the outside of the Temple Mount to signal their desire to ascend the Mount. The group had hoped for a change in police attitudes following Franco's assumption of the Commissionership, but the group says he seems to have adopted the approach of his predecessors in banning Jews from the Temple Mount whenever Muslims threaten violence against them.

Solomon said that the recent comments by Minister of Public Security Tzachi HaNegbi (Likud) did not seem to have an effect on the decision today, "as this has been the policy all along. But there is no question that he caused damage to the People of Israel in giving ammunition to our enemies and in 'letting the blood' of Jews who ascent to the Mount." Minister HaNegbi said three nights ago that he is certain that Jews are planning to carry out an attack on the Temple Mount. His disclaimer that he has no concrete evidence to support his claim was ignored by the Arab League and the Muslim Waqf, which turned to international bodies to "prevent Jewish extremists from endangering the Moslem holy sites on the Temple Mount."

Temple Mount supporters held a spontaneous protest demonstration in front of Minister HaNegbi's home in Mevaseret Tzion today. Among the protesters were Jews who had intended to visit the holy site this morning.

Health Minister Danny Naveh (Likud) said this morning that decisions made under the threat of Arab violence are "intolerable." He expressed the desire that decisions regarding Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount should be transferred from the authority of the police to a ministerial level. "The Temple Mount is the only place in the world where Jews cannot pray," Naveh said, "even though it is the holiest site to Judaism. Although there are differences of opinion amongst today's rabbis whether Jews should ascend the Mount, there are those who wish to, and it is their right. We cannot live under the [Arab] threat that if we let Jews pray there, [violence] will occur. Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount is a Jewish right that must be realized."
 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Isla
But on a daily, personal level...

There is a Muslim woman who works at my school as a paraprofessional, or "teacher's aide".

I am friendly to her, and I can TELL she appreciates it. She's an American. She may not be a Christian, but being American does not mean being a Christian or a Jew. I know that she appreciates the fact that I realize this. I am sure she is used to people avoiding her gaze, as she wears the head scarf thingy.

If we could just be respectful of each other in daily life, maybe we wouldn't have to worry about BS like this? I mean, isn't that WJWD?

To be unfriendly to someone on the basis of their race, color, creed, sexual orientation, etc, is rather ignorant.

I'm missing what your comments have to do with Muslims setting an ancient Jewish synagogue on fire, and preventing fire trucks from putting out the blaze though.


....i guess christians and jews can be just as evil...


1) In Mesa, Arizona, Balbir Singh Sodhi, 49, an Indian gas station owner was shot. The assailant then drove to another service station where a Lebanese-American employee was working; he fired shots but injured no one else. (CNN: 9/14)

2) In Richmond Hill, Queens, an elderly Sikh man was beaten with a baseball bat; two others were shot at with paintball guns. (NY Times)

3) In Gary, Indiana, a man in a ski mask fired more than 21 shots from a high-powered assault rifle at Hassan Awdah, a U.S. citizen born in Yemen, who stood behind a 1-inch-thick shield at 3 am on Wednesday. Awdah fled as the gunman tried to shoot him again. (Reuters/Chicago & MSNBC.com)

4) On Friday, a turban-wearing taxi driver was attacked by a man who accused him of being a terrorist. He was of Indian descent. (Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press)

5) A car rammed into an Akron, OH Arab-owned grocery store by Jack Oueslati. (News Net 5: 9/16)

6) In Huntington, N.Y., a 75-year-old man tried to run over a Pakistani woman in a shopping mall parking lot. The police said he screamed that he was "doing this for my country." The man then followed the woman into a store and threatened to kill her or "destroying my country." (Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press & New York Times: 9/14)

7) Khaled Ksaibati, the faculty adviser for the Muslim Student Association at the University of Wyoming described an attack on the Muslim family at a Laramie Wal-Mart. "The people who screamed in her face wanted her to go back to her country," he said. "This is her country. She was born here." (Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press)

8) On Thursday night, a group of demonstrators gathered outside of the Madina Masjid on First Avenue and 11th Street in Manhattan. The mob yelled angrily and carried a banner saying "Destroy the mosque or remove it from this place." Neighbors shouted the crowd down as the police held them back. (News Net 5:9/16)

9) On Wednesday, a well-dressed young Manhattan couple yelled insults at a Lebanese-American who was desperately searching for survivors from the arts center he had run on the 92nd floor of the World Trade Center's north tower. "They told me, 'You should go back to your country, you f--king Arabs, we should bomb the s--t out of you," said the man, Moukhtar Kocache. (Seattle Times)

10) Yasser Ahmed, manager of an Arab-owned candy and grocery store on Broadway in Upper Manhattan, said about 10 people had come in shouting, "You guys did it!" and other accusations. (NY Times)

11) One student, Basel Al-ken, whose family is from Syria, was taking his mother to Wal-Mart one night this week. A man in a parked car turned a laser-pointer in her face and made a throat-slitting motion with his hand. (NY Times)

12) Four men chased Amrik Singh, a Sikh who wears a turban, on Tuesday as he fled lower Manhattan to return home to Hicksville. He jumped on a train to Brooklyn and took off his turban and stuffed it into his briefcase. (NY News Day)

13) One man stormed into a South Seattle mosque and threatened to burn it down. Another poured gasoline on a North Seattle mosque and tried to fire a gun at some of its members. (Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press)

14) A student of either Indian or Middle Eastern origin was attacked on the University of Pennsylvania campus. Other colleges have reported similar stories of their students under attack. (MTV News & Seattle Times)

15) The Islamic Institute of New York received a telephone call threatening the school's 450 students. The male caller said he was going to paint the streets with the children's blood. The school is closed, but continues to receive several threats a day. (Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press)

16) A mosque in Denton, Texas, was firebombed, and another in Lynnwood, Wash. had its sign defaced with black paint. (New York Times: 9/14)

17) In Bridgeview, Ill., a suburb of Chicago, police stopped 300 marchersÛmany of them teenagers--as they tried to march on a mosque on Wednesday night. Marcher Colin Zaremba, 19, told The Associated Press, "I'm proud to be American and I hate Arabs and I always have." (Seattle Times & Detroit Free Press/ Reuters: Chicago)

18) 43 percent of Americans said they thought the attacks would make them "personally more suspicious" of people who appear to be of Arab descent. (ABCNEWS/ Washington Post poll: 9/13)

19) 10 people were removed from an Amtrak train in Providence, R.I., on Wednesday, and held by the police and questioned for an hour and 40. Sher J. B. Singh, a telecommunications consultant, was one of three Sikh men escorted from the train at gunpoint, handcuffed and questioned about whether he had anything to do with the terrorism. The others held all appeared to be of Arab or South Asian descent, said Mr. Singh and Meera Kumar, a financial services officer at the Ford Motor Company, who was also held by the police. Those detained included a Hispanic and an African- American. "They broadcast four Arabic males, so four Arabic males is what we are looking for," Colonel Sullivan said. September 14, 2001/New York Times)

20) From Texas to Chicago to Long Island, there have been reports of arson, personal attacks and the police stopping men in Middle Eastern-style head coverings. (New York Times: 9/14)

21) In suburban Cleveland, Sukhwant Singh, a Sikh priest who lives at the Guru Gobind Sikh temple, awakened early Wednesday to find bottles filled with gasoline hurled in the temple's windows and flames pouring out. (New York Times: 9/14)

22) In Louisiana, schools in Jefferson Parish were closed on Wednesday after officials reported that students of Middle Eastern origin were being taunted and harassed. (New York Times: 9/14)

23) On Long Island, a market in Smithtown owned by a native of Pakistan was the target of what the police considered a probable arson attack Wednesday morning. The entire store was burned to the ground. (New York Times: 9/14)

24) In Ronkonkoma, a man was arrested on suspicion of waving a pellet gun and shouting obscenities at a South Asian gas station worker. (New York Times: 9/14)

25) Early Wednesday in Manhattan, a Sikh man said he was pounced on by three white men yelling "terrorist" at Broadway and 52nd Street. (New York Times: 9/14)

26) On Wednesday morning, three Sikh men waiting at Grand Central Terminal for a Connecticut-bound train were stopped and had their bags searched by the police. (New York Times: 9/14)

27) In Denton, Texas, a Molotov cocktail fashioned out of a beer bottle was tossed at a mosque and Islamic school, a day after windows were shot out at a similar Islamic center near Dallas. (Reuters/Chicago)

28) In New YorkÌs Kennedy airport, law enforcement officers searched passengers boarding an American Airlines flight who appeared to be of Arab decent. "Anyone with dark skin or who spoke with an accent was taken aside and searched," one passenger said. "And they went to any male with too much facial hair." (NY Times & MSNBC.com)

29) An Islamic information service reported that a bag of pig blood was left on the doorstep of an Islamic community center in San Francisco. (Reuters/Chicago)

30) An Islamic center in Ohio received menacing messages and a bullet was fired through one window. (Toledo Blade & Reuters/Chicago)

31) One Muslim woman said she, her husband and their eight children endured a night of terror when an angry mob rose outside of their home in Oak Lawn, Ill. The woman, who asked not to be identified out of fear, said ``We had people riding up and down our block shouting obscenities. 'Go home you bleeping ragheads, bleeping a-rabs, we're gonna get you.Ì÷My husband and I stayed up all night guarding the windows,'' she added. ``My husband is of Arab descent. He gave four years of his life in the U.S. Navy ... to have some skinhead with an American flag screaming at your house.''

She said the family was afraid to call the police because it would single out their house, adding that other Muslim families in the neighborhood were considering whether they should leave the area Thursday evening. (Reuters/Chicago)

32) Police in northern Indiana were investigating several other hate crimes. (Reuters/Chicago & MSNBC.com)

33) A Pakistani Muslim store owner was shot and killed in Dallas Saturday evening. (MSNBC)

34) The FBI has initiated 40 hate crime investigations involving reported attacks on Arab American citizens and institutions. (MSNBC)

35) In Palos Hills, Ill., two Muslim girls were beaten at Moraine Valley College.

36) In Evansville, Ind., a man driving 80 miles an hour rammed his car into a mosque. In both cases, police arrested suspects. (MSNBC)

37) Damage was reported at another Arab-owned gasoline station in Indiana, as well as at a restaurant owned by a native of Jordan, where windows were broken and the windows of a parked car were shot out. (Reuters/Chicago)

38) At Jacksonville State University, tensions over the terrorist attacks have extended beyond the Islamic students. Students from abroad with dark complexions, including one Brazilian woman, reported hostile looks, snide comments and fearing for their safety. (MSNBC)

39) Muslim schools in several areas have canceled their classes as a precaution against threats and reported violence. (Reuters/Chicago)

40) In Alexandria, Virginia, Hazim Barakat, a native of Jerusalem who came to the United States 11 years ago, said he arrived to open his Islamic bookstore the day after the attack to find windows shattered with note-bound bricks. ``You come to this country to kill our people. We want to kill you'' and ``Death to the Arab murderers,'' read the notes, according to Barakat, a U.S. citizen. (Reuters/Chicago)

41) The LAPD said 8 hate incidents have been reported in the city of Los Angeles, including four that have been classified as hate crimes --2 cases of vandalism; one assault with a deadly weapon, in which a gun was put to a woman's face; and an "annoying" phone call to the Southern California Islamic Center. Four other incidents involved racial epithets and slurs but were not classified as hate crimes. (Los Angeles Times)

42) Two students at Pierce College in Woodland Hills wrote "die" on a Persian Club booth on campus. An altercation ensued between the suspects and one or two students, but the victims did not press charges. (Los Angeles Times)

43) At the University of Southern California, some Muslim students have been harassed and some Muslim women have had their veils pulled off, according to Sarah Eltantawi of the Muslim Public Affairs Council. (Los Angeles Times)

44) Some Jewish Americans express fears of being targeted for blame that this terrorism stems from continuing US support for Israel. (Seattle & Detroit Free Press/ Reuters: Chicago)

45) Arab-Americans have been singled out in airports for searches by security agents and assaulted by thugs, according to published reports. The Internet has also become a hotbed for the harassment of Arab-Americans. (MSNBC.com)

46) Fairfax County police are investigating two weekend bias crimes they say may be linked to the terror attacks. (MSNBC)

47) The Windows 2000 French-language spell-checker suggests replacing "anti-stress" with the word "anti-arab." The head of Microsoft's European and Middle East operations said on Wednesday the problem should be fixed in "a few weeks" and that customers would be offered a new version free of charge. (Reuters) [Shoba Sivaprasad]

This list is reprinted with permission on ESR's site thanks to the
Asian American Legal Defense And Education Fund.

Articles About Hate Crime Attacks -
Late September through Late October, 2001

This compilation was sent through the BostonDefense listserve, possibly compiled by Jason Pramas.

Afghan-American Teenagers Attacked

Death Called Hate Crime

Washington State Muslim Beaten To Death

Wave of Crimes Has the Look of Hate

Backlash Violence Reports Decrease, But Civil Rights Complaints Up

Anti-Arab Bias, Hate Crimes Hit [Restaurant] Operators

Beaten in Pakistan, Battered in Brooklyn

AFGHAN AMERICAN TEENAGERS ATTACKED

The Washington Post, 10/25/2001 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48101-2001Oct24.html

A Dumfries (Va.) mother and son were arrested Tuesday after they allegedly led a mob attack on two Afghan American teenagers in what police said was a hate-related melee.

Prince William County police said April Scruggs, 42, and Jarvis Berkley Wilhoit, 19, both of Cusack Lane in Dumfries, hit and kicked the teenagers after more than a month of taunting them and calling them "terrorists."

According to police, Wilhoit and a group of friends approached the two youths -- who are brothers ages 16 and 17 -- on Tuesday near Wexford Loop and Kirby Drive and began taunting them and hitting them. Police said Scruggs then entered the fight and hit the 17-year-old youth in the head with a wrench. Both boys escaped into a neighbor's home, police said. Neither was seriously injured.

Wilhoit was charged with two counts of assault and battery, which were elevated to felonies because they apparently were hate-related. Scruggs was charged with one count of misdemeanor assault and battery.

DEATH CALLED HATE CRIME
BY BILL GARDNER and DAVID HAWLEY, St. Paul Pioneer Press, 10/25/2001 http://www.pioneerpress.com/news/mtc_docs/169004.htm

Friends describe Ali as a gentle man who enjoyed helping other Somalis with their English. He was 66 and lived with his wife and grown children in Minneapolis.

He was proud of becoming a new American citizen just last month.

He was waiting for a bus on a Sunday afternoon when he was attacked and beaten unconscious 11 days ago.

Ali died late Monday night at Hennepin County Medical Center in Minneapolis. His friends, family and many in the Twin Cities Somali community say Ali was attacked because he was a Somali.

It was a hate crime, said Abdi Warsame, one of Ali's children.

"I have no doubt about that," Warsame said.

Minneapolis police are investigating the assault but have made no arrests and have not concluded that Ali was attacked because he was Somali, said police spokeswoman Cyndi Montgomery...

(NOTE: CAIR Minnesota is looking into this incident.)

WASHINGTON STATE MUSLIM BEATEN TO DEATH

KIRO 7 EYEWITNESS NEWS http://www.seattleinsider.com/partners/kirotv/news/2001/10/24/beating.html

LAKE STEVENS -- A man died after being found beaten and wrapped in a blanket beneath the Pilchuck River bridge southeast of town, Snohomish County sheriff's deputies said.

Mohamed Salah Hassan, 21, barely had a pulse when he was found by a passer-by Saturday evening. He died Sunday at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle of head injuries and was identified Tuesday by investigators in the medical examiner's office.

Investigators have not determined who might be responsible and are asking the public for any information, said Jan Jorgensen, a spokeswoman for the sheriff's office.

WAVE OF CRIMES HAS THE LOOK OF HATE Muslims and others lie low after a fire, a beating, threats and vandalism.

By ALDRIN BROWN, The Orange County Register, 10/25/2001 http://www.ocregister.com/local/hate01025cci3.shtml

ANAHEIM -- Akbar Ali doesn't need to wait for arson experts to finish their criminal investigation and for sophisticated scientific analysis to figure out why somebody set fire to his 2,400-square-foot restaurant last month.

Emblazoned with a blue and white sign reading "Islamic Halal Tandoori Pakistani and Indian Cuisine Restaurant," the West Ball Road eatery was torched in the pre-dawn hours of Sept. 27.

The blaze is among more than 10 possible hate incidents reported in Anaheim since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks - the most of any community in Orange County, according to preliminary reports filed with civil-rights advocates.

The incidents also have taken the form of taunts, harassing telephone calls or acts of vandalism...

...Perpetrators of hate incidents likely are drawn by the relatively high profile of Anaheim's Middle Eastern and Islamic communities, said Hussam Ayloush, who heads the Southern California chapter of the Council on American- Islamic Relations.

The city, one of the nation's most popular tourist destinations, boasts a blocks-wide section of town known as Little Gaza, named for the Palestinian enclave in the Middle East.

"They're very visible," said Ayloush, whose group also is based in the city. "I don't know in terms of numbers, but they are more concentrated here than elsewhere in the county..."

BACKLASH VIOLENCE REPORTS DECREASE, BUT CIVIL RIGHTS COMPLAINTS UP

By DEBORAH KONG, Associated press, 10/25/2001

Groups tracking backlash violence since the Sept. 11 attacks say hate crimes appear to be tapering off, although there are new complaints of workplace discrimination.

Reports of beatings, hate mail and firebombings poured into the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, and the Sikh Coalition in the weeks following the terrorist attacks.

For the most part, those reports seem to have slowed, advocates said. Harassment has "shifted from those public cases of abuse and assault and verbal harassment on the streets," said Joshua Salaam, civil rights coordinator for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. "It's moved to airport profiling, to FBI harassment and workplace discrimination."

The council says it received 960 complaints between Sept. 11 and Monday in which people said they were targeted because of their ethnicity, or because they appeared to be Middle Eastern.

ANTI-ARAB BIAS, HATE CRIMES HIT OPERATORS

By Carolyn Walkup, Nation's Restaurant News, 10/22/2001

Reported hate crimes against Arab-Americans and Muslims and their businesses, including restaurants, have reached a fever pitch since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and subsequent U.S. military retaliation.

Some 800 possible hate crimes throughout the United States have been reported so far to the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington, D.C. The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Washington also is tabulating a record number of hate-crime reports.

Incidents targeting restaurants that appear to be owned by Arab-Americans of many nationalities range from threatening phone calls to suspected arson. And other restaurant owners report declining business and canceled banquets in the weeks following Sept. 11. While the entire economy can be characterized as "in shock," there has been more of a backlash against Arab-American-owned businesses than others, said Imad Hamad, Midwestern director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Detroit. "It was a double-dose burden," he said. "When our community had the same feeling of grieving, at the same time they had to deal with looks of wonder against them."

Incidents directed against Arab-Americans have gone far beyond "looks of wonder" in some cases. Police and fire departments are investigating instances of suspected arson at Pakistani restaurants in Anaheim, Calif., and Salt Lake City, where a suspect was arrested, and of an Iraqi-owned pizza shop in Plymouth, Mass.

Beaten in Pakistan, Battered in Brooklyn

by SOMINI SENGUPTA, NY Times October 24, 2001

Haider Rizvi, a freelance journalist and native of Pakistan, has spent much of the last six weeks talking to cabdrivers, deli workers and other New Yorkers who have been picked on, yelled at and roughed up because, to untrained eyes, they resemble the terrorists who struck the World Trade Center. Late last month, he wrote an article about such bias for a South Asian news service.

Early Sunday morning, on a Park Slope street corner not far from his home, Mr. Rizvi, 38, found himself in the middle of such a story.

As he stepped out of a Pakistani- owned grocery on Fifth Avenue, three men approached him. "One of them looked at me and said: `You look like Osama bin Laden. Are you from Pakistan?' " he recalled yesterday. "I said, `Originally, yes.' "

Mr. Rizvi said he remembers being kicked and punched, falling to the sidewalk and waking up at New York Methodist Hospital. His assailant had knocked out one of his front teeth and beaten him unconscious.

The police are investigating the incident as a possible bias crime.

There is a peculiar sense of deja vu to Mr. Rizvi's story. The last time he was roughed up he was a college student in Pakistan; his assailants were thugs belonging to the Jamaat-i Islami, the pro- Taliban fundamentalist political party, whose members have been on the streets of Pakistan in recent weeks protesting the bombing of Afghanistan. In fact, Mr. Rizvi said yesterday, he left Pakistan in part because he was tired of being harassed by the Islamic right.

A couple of weeks ago, the editor of an Indian newsmagazine wrote to ask him to write a personal essay about being a Muslim in America. He wrote back with this suggestion: "I asked if she'd like to read a piece about what it's like to be an atheist living in the United States."
 

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I'm failing to see what any of the posts so far have to do with the desecration of Jewish and Christian holy sites by Muslims.

Care to enlighten me?
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Isla
LOL, thanks, Pers. Glad SOMEONE got my subtlety.

You consider setting a holy site on fire and blocking firefighters from putting out the blaze bs?

You're right, your subtlety escapes me.
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm failing to see what any of the posts so far have to do with the desecration of Jewish and Christian holy sites by Muslims.

Care to enlighten me?

listen you worthless waste of human flesh. i've literally sh!tted more intelligent objects than you. Your topic questions "muslim respect for jewish and christian holy sites"

last time i checked...the behavior of one person doesn't represent everyone in the group they belong to. Otherwise i'll go ahead and start a new thread "white people are the stupidest group of beings - proof rip."

if you read through some of the things i posted....you'll see the amount of christian/jewish attacks there were on muslim holy structures in a matter of 2 weeks. get my point? if you didn't...i'll break it down for you. you're a moron, stop posting.
 

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Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm failing to see what any of the posts so far have to do with the desecration of Jewish and Christian holy sites by Muslims.

Care to enlighten me?

listen you worthless waste of human flesh. i've literally sh!tted more intelligent objects than you. Your topic questions "muslim respect for jewish and christian holy sites"

last time i checked...the behavior of one person doesn't represent everyone in the group they belong to. Otherwise i'll go ahead and start a new thread "white people are the stupidest group of beings - proof rip."

if you read through some of the things i posted....you'll see the amount of christian/jewish attacks there were on muslim holy structures in a matter of 2 weeks. get my point? if you didn't...i'll break it down for you. you're a moron, stop posting.

We are putting American lives at risk to protect Muslim holy sites inhabited by Arab militiamen while Jewish and Christian holy sites are being desecrated and destroyed by Muslisms.

You don't see the irony?
 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm failing to see what any of the posts so far have to do with the desecration of Jewish and Christian holy sites by Muslims.

Care to enlighten me?

listen you worthless waste of human flesh. i've literally sh!tted more intelligent objects than you. Your topic questions "muslim respect for jewish and christian holy sites"

last time i checked...the behavior of one person doesn't represent everyone in the group they belong to. Otherwise i'll go ahead and start a new thread "white people are the stupidest group of beings - proof rip."

if you read through some of the things i posted....you'll see the amount of christian/jewish attacks there were on muslim holy structures in a matter of 2 weeks. get my point? if you didn't...i'll break it down for you. you're a moron, stop posting.

We are putting American lives at risk to protect Muslim holy sites inhabited by Arab militiamen while Jewish and Christian holy sites are being desecrated and destroyed by Muslisms.

You don't see the irony?

America is too busy kissing Isreal's butt to move in on Jerusalem. Besides, you think any of the "Christian" neocons really care?

All they care about is $$$. That's the only reason AMERICAN lives are at risk. Any Muslim holy sites we're protecting is only to help this POS administration save face.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm failing to see what any of the posts so far have to do with the desecration of Jewish and Christian holy sites by Muslims.

Care to enlighten me?

listen you worthless waste of human flesh. i've literally sh!tted more intelligent objects than you. Your topic questions "muslim respect for jewish and christian holy sites"

last time i checked...the behavior of one person doesn't represent everyone in the group they belong to. Otherwise i'll go ahead and start a new thread "white people are the stupidest group of beings - proof rip."

if you read through some of the things i posted....you'll see the amount of christian/jewish attacks there were on muslim holy structures in a matter of 2 weeks. get my point? if you didn't...i'll break it down for you. you're a moron, stop posting.

If we could just be respectful of each other in daily life, maybe we wouldn't have to worry about BS like this?
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm failing to see what any of the posts so far have to do with the desecration of Jewish and Christian holy sites by Muslims.

Care to enlighten me?

listen you worthless waste of human flesh. i've literally sh!tted more intelligent objects than you. Your topic questions "muslim respect for jewish and christian holy sites"

last time i checked...the behavior of one person doesn't represent everyone in the group they belong to. Otherwise i'll go ahead and start a new thread "white people are the stupidest group of beings - proof rip."

if you read through some of the things i posted....you'll see the amount of christian/jewish attacks there were on muslim holy structures in a matter of 2 weeks. get my point? if you didn't...i'll break it down for you. you're a moron, stop posting.

We are putting American lives at risk to protect Muslim holy sites inhabited by Arab militiamen while Jewish and Christian holy sites are being desecrated and destroyed by Muslisms.

You don't see the irony?

haha... ya the "irony"... let me ask you something... as a result of this iraq war.... how many islamic holy sites have been bombed? how many of their holiest clerics killed? I'm catholic, and if there was a war in the vatican tomorrow and the result was the death of cardinals on a daily basis, i'd be pretty heated.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: busmaster11
Originally posted by: Riprorin


We are putting American lives at risk to protect Muslim holy sites inhabited by Arab militiamen while Jewish and Christian holy sites are being desecrated and destroyed by Muslisms.

You don't see the irony?

America is too busy kissing Isreal's butt to move in on Jerusalem.
:roll:
Besides, you think any of the "Christian" neocons really care?
:roll::roll:

All they care about is $$$.
:roll::roll::roll:
That's the only reason AMERICAN lives are at risk.
:roll::roll::roll::roll:
Any Muslim holy sites we're protecting is only to help this POS administration save face.
:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm failing to see what any of the posts so far have to do with the desecration of Jewish and Christian holy sites by Muslims.

Care to enlighten me?

listen you worthless waste of human flesh. i've literally sh!tted more intelligent objects than you. Your topic questions "muslim respect for jewish and christian holy sites"

last time i checked...the behavior of one person doesn't represent everyone in the group they belong to. Otherwise i'll go ahead and start a new thread "white people are the stupidest group of beings - proof rip."

if you read through some of the things i posted....you'll see the amount of christian/jewish attacks there were on muslim holy structures in a matter of 2 weeks. get my point? if you didn't...i'll break it down for you. you're a moron, stop posting.

We are putting American lives at risk to protect Muslim holy sites inhabited by Arab militiamen while Jewish and Christian holy sites are being desecrated and destroyed by Muslisms.

You don't see the irony?

haha... ya the "irony"... let me ask you something... as a result of this iraq war.... how many islamic holy sites have been bombed? how many of their holiest clerics killed? I'm catholic, and if there was a war in the vatican tomorrow and the result was the death of cardinals on a daily basis, i'd be pretty heated.

So, let's get this straight, the US military is intentionally bombing Islamic holy sites and killing Islamic clerics.

Did I get that right?
 

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i give up - i've decided to submit myself to American Imperialism and Lazze Faire Capitalism....so that I too can benefit from the spoils of war, from the blood of the slaves, and the sweat of the oppressed
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Pers
i give up - i've decided to submit myself to American Imperialism and Lazze Faire Capitalism....so that I too can benefit from the spoils of war, from the blood of the slaves, and the sweat of the oppressed

Ah, it's all becoming clear to me now! Thanks for sharing your views.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Some Muslims are attacking Christian sites. I think it's wrong. How should we respond? If an evil act is done, do we become evil? What should we do?
 

busmaster11

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: busmaster11
Originally posted by: Riprorin


We are putting American lives at risk to protect Muslim holy sites inhabited by Arab militiamen while Jewish and Christian holy sites are being desecrated and destroyed by Muslisms.

You don't see the irony?

America is too busy kissing Isreal's butt to move in on Jerusalem.
:roll:

Rip is asking what have we done about muslims desecrating holy sites in Jerusalem. Well, you got a better answer?

Besides, you think any of the "Christian" neocons really care?
:roll::roll:
All they care about is $$$.
:roll::roll::roll:
That's the only reason AMERICAN lives are at risk.
:roll::roll::roll::roll:
Any Muslim holy sites we're protecting is only to help this POS administration save face.
:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

Thanks for enriching us with your highly intelligent perspective.
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Some Muslims are attacking Christian sites. I think it's wrong. How should we respond? If an evil act is done, do we become evil? What should we do?


Well, WWJD?

Would he invite them over to dinner, and win them over with his peaceful ways? Or would he smite them with pestilence and famine? :p
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: busmaster11
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: busmaster11
Originally posted by: Riprorin


We are putting American lives at risk to protect Muslim holy sites inhabited by Arab militiamen while Jewish and Christian holy sites are being desecrated and destroyed by Muslisms.

You don't see the irony?

America is too busy kissing Isreal's butt to move in on Jerusalem.
:roll:

Rip is asking what have we done about muslims desecrating holy sites in Jerusalem. Well, you got a better answer?

Besides, you think any of the "Christian" neocons really care?
:roll::roll:
All they care about is $$$.
:roll::roll::roll:
That's the only reason AMERICAN lives are at risk.
:roll::roll::roll::roll:
Any Muslim holy sites we're protecting is only to help this POS administration save face.
:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

Thanks for enriching us with your highly intelligent perspective.

Your interpretation of my response is spot on..
 

busmaster11

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Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Some Muslims are attacking Christian sites. I think it's wrong. How should we respond? If an evil act is done, do we become evil? What should we do?


Well, WWJD?

Would he invite them over to dinner, and win them over with his peaceful ways? Or would he smite them with pestilence and famine? :p

Are you a Christian? If not, you need to retract your question because your hypocrisy is embarassing you.

If so, do you believe that God has delegated America the authority to act on His behalf? Do you believe that God would NEED America to act on His behalf?

Which is it?