Where would Intel be today, without AMD?

[techs]

I was just thinking about where would Intel be at today, if not for the competition from AMD?
My first computer was an Intel Pentium mmx 233. And that chip was the top of the Intel line for like a year and a half.
If it weren't for the K6-2's Intel would have maybe even bumped the 233 to 266 and kept it at the top for another 6 months.
And without the Athlon, well, the p2-3 line would STILL be around today, I believe.
Since it is hard to actually determine what type of cpu and its speed Intel would be selling today without AMD (for instance without AMD we would never had seen the dead end "netburst') I am shooting for a year.

Without AMD as competition since 1998 I say Intel would be a full 3 years behind where they are now. We would be where we were in 2004. There would be no home user dual cores and we would only now be getting above 1.5 ghz.

 

[se7en]

They would probably rule the universe by now for sure. Just think Skeletor.

 

[jjones]

I doubt it. Software dev and user needs push cpu dev as well as just straight competition. The only real question in my mind is, where would the pricing be?

 

[Snapster]

Moore's law (relatively speaking), same place just more expensive.

 

[DBL]

probably not (1yr at most) but pricing would be 3x higher.

 

[dainthomas]

Gov't probably would have broken them up by now.

 

[Epic Fail]

Google would be a processor maker instead of search engine.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Snapster
Moore's law (relatively speaking), same place just more expensive.

Absolutely. Processor increases come from market demand (consumers, businesses). Moore's law would still be in place but Intel would probably be charging 2x what they do now.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

They'd be at least one product cycle behind and 5 times the price.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: se7en
They would probably rule the universe by now for sure. Just think Skeletor.

Google's getting pretty close...

 

[senseamp]

Another company would come along and replace AMD.

 

[ultimatebob]

I bet that Cyrix/VIA would be a LOT bigger than they are now...

But Intel would still be kicking their asses

 

[Mermaidman]

Here?

Anyway, after 4 AMD rigs, I'm building my first Intel machine this week . . . assuming UPS doesn't screw up again.

 

[TuxDave]

If AMD didn't exist... I would be on vacation right now. Go figure that out.

 

[RagingBITCH]

They'd have more market share.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: yamadakun
Google would be a processor maker instead of search engine.

Minus one x86 license...

 

[HombrePequeno]

Well Intel likely would have been broken up for being a monopoly.

 

[BoomerD]

It's really difficult to say how things would have turned out...but we can have fun speculating...Having NEVER owned an AMD processor, I can only speculate that Intel would not have progressed at the rate it did without the competition, but Moore's Law would still have driven the increases in technology.Might another company have filled the gap in competition? Maybe, but Intel would still rule the heap.

 

[Savarak]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Well Intel likely would have been broken up for being a monopoly.

powerpc, cyrix, sgi, via?

 

[Freejack2]

Someone else would have gone into AMD's place. Cyrix may have survived. I doubt Intel would have been without some kind of competition.

Still if Intel hadn't. The non-core2 dual cores would just be making their way to market at a cost of close to $2000 a pop, most people would be running lower end P4's (sub 2ghz) because the cheapest P4 would cost $200-$250.

My memory is a little fuzzy but I could of sworn Intel's top end processor was $3000 just before AMD put their processors out.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Well Intel likely would have been broken up for being a monopoly.

I wouldn't be suprised if Intel uses the "but AMD exists" to counter any monopoly argument...so I can see how they have a vested interest in maintaining AMD at the same time

 

[imported_Imp]

We'd probably still be running single-core Pentium 4s, high end would be 6Ghz, weighing in at a healthy 600W idle. Antec and Coolermaster would be highly profitable, we'd probably have to run air conditioning in the winter to balance out the "furnace".