Where was John Ashcroft during the State of the Union Address?

Kyteland

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I heard this morning that John Ashcroft was hidden away in an underground bunker somewhere on the off chance that Capitol Hill was obliterated during the State of the Union Address. Anyone know if this is true?

Scary thought that they would want leave him in charge if the rest of our nations leaders spontaneously died...
 

Fausto

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Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.

WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.

WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.

Um, I think, just maybe, you should check that out.
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

No, they really do this. They pick one person to not be at an event like this just in case the worst happens. I was just wondering who it was this time. I heard it was John Ashcroft but that was from an unreliable source.

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Taken form an old exam I found:

1. (1 point, 1 min) When President Clinton presented the most recent state of the union address, there was one person missing in the house. If there had been a catastrophe (say Martians beamed up everyone present in the house), then this person would have become the new President of the United states. This person was (circle one of the following):

(a) Bob Dole (b) Steve Forbes (c) Donna Shalala (d) Wayne Clough
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.

WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.

Um, I think, just maybe, you should check that out.

I'm man enough to say I'm wrong. Show me the way.

 

Red Dawn

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They should have had Ashcroft standing out front of the Building with a big red X painted on his chest.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

No, they really do this. They pick one person to not be at an event like this just in case the worst happens. I was just wondering who it was this time. I heard it was John Ashcroft but that was from an unreliable source.

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Taken form an old exam I found:

1. (1 point, 1 min) When President Clinton presented the most recent state of the union address, there was one person missing in the house. If there had been a catastrophe (say Martians beamed up everyone present in the house), then this person would have become the new President of the United states. This person was (circle one of the following):

(a) Bob Dole (b) Steve Forbes (c) Donna Shalala (d) Wayne Clough

Bob Dole?
 

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America being run by a man who lost an election to a dead man. Almost as ironic as America being lead by someone who didn't win the election.
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.

WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.

not exactly true


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Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Thera
America being run by a man who lost an election to a dead man. Almost as ironic as America being lead by someone who didn't win the election.

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Pepsei

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.

WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.

Um, I think, just maybe, you should check that out.

I'm man enough to say I'm wrong. Show me the way.

Gerald Ford was never elected..and he became the president

 

Dari

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.

WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.

not exactly true


I like it when you click me


Fvck. Of all people they choose Ashcroft? WTF are they thinking? They should at least have an elected leader hidden away as opposed to someone like ashcroft.
 

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1 Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.
Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.
WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.

If Bush were to die....

Vice President- His cabinet(in some type of order... I believe Powell is first) and the President Pro-Tempore of the Senate...... They always leave one of the Cabinet members in an undisclosed location in case something were to happen.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Hey, it's almost noon. You should get going or you'll be late to the picnic on the grassy knoll.

Why are you calling him paranoid? He's spot on. They always leave someone from the chain of command out of the building during the SOTU address. It used to be considered an act of paranoia before 9/11 and was joked about. Now, no one makes fun of the practice.

WTF would they leave ashcroft? He wasn't elected. Only elected leaders are part of the line of ascent to the presidency.

not exactly true


I like it when you click me


Yea!!! We have a winner. :)

Order of Presidential Succession

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Colin Powell
Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General John Ashcroft
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Ann M. Veneman
Secretary of Commerce Donald Evans
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy G. Thompson
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Melquiades Rafael Martinez
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshiro Mineta
Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham
Secretary of Education Roderick Paige
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Anthony J. Principi

 

guyver01

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It is a little-known tradition that one Cabinet member does not attend the speech, lest some calamity occur and wipe out everyone in the line of succession to the presidency. There is no rule for how the designee is chosen, but he or she is typically told at the last minute. For too long, the men and women who shoulder this terrible burden have done so in obscurity.

CSPAN


Congress convenes in joint session, in the House chamber, to hear the State of the Union message. Also present are the Vice-President, the President's Cabinet, the Supreme Court Justices, and foreign diplomats. The night of the State of the Union speech is the one night all individuals in the line of succession to the presidency are present together in one place. As a result, one Cabinet Member is asked to stay safely away from the Capitol that evening, for national security reasons, in case the unthinkable were to occur to the rest. The choice of absentee official is rotated among the Cabinet from year to year. In 2001, the designate was Anthony J. Principi, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs. The 2000 absentee was Energy Secretary Bill Richardson. In 1999, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Andrew Cuomo, stayed away and in 1998, the absentee was William Daley, Secretary of Commerce.
 

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
I heard this morning that John Ashcroft was hidden away in an underground bunker somewhere on the off chance that Capitol Hill was obliterated during the State of the Union Address. Anyone know if this is true?

Scary thought that they would want leave him in charge if the rest of our nations leaders spontaneously died...



I am pretty sure that the Constitution does not provide for the Attorney General to run the country. Try reading it sometime. It's good.

Edit: I learned something today. I humbly apologize. I thought as well the person had to be elected.
I will go hide my head now.

:eek:
ORDER OF U.S. PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESSION:

1 The Vice President Richard Cheney
2 Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
3 President pro tempore of the Senate1 Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State Colin Powell
5 Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill
6 Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
7 Attorney General John Ashcroft
8 Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
9 Secretary of Agriculture Ann M. Veneman
10 Secretary of Commerce Donald Evans
11 Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy G. Thompson
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Melquiades Rafael Martinez
14 Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshiro Mineta
15 Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham
16 Secretary of Education Roderick Paige
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Anthony J. Principi

Constitutionally, Congress is to decide who is next beyond this point.

Unless that person meets the following Constitutional requirements, that official cannot legally succeed to the Presidency: 1) Must be a natural-born citizen of the United States, 2) Must be 35 years of age or older, 3) Must have been a resident of the U.S. for at least 14 years


1. The president pro tempore presides over the Senate when the vice president is absent. By tradition the position is held by the senior member of the majority party.

In the Presidential Succession Act of 1792, the president pro tempore was next in line after the vice president to succeed to the presidency. Truman's 1947 proposal reversed this order, putting the Speaker of the House ahead of the president pro tempore.

In 1886 Congress changed the order of presidential succession, replacing the president pro tempore and the Speaker of the House with the cabinet officers. Proponents of this change argued that the congressional leaders lacked executive experience, and none had served as president, while six former secretaries of state had been elected to that office.

The cabinet members are ordered in the line of succession according to the date their offices were established.

Prior to the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, which was ratified on Feb.10, 1967, there was no provision for filling a vacancy in the vice presidency. When a president died in office, the vice president succeeded

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 308nato
Originally posted by: Kyteland
I heard this morning that John Ashcroft was hidden away in an underground bunker somewhere on the off chance that Capitol Hill was obliterated during the State of the Union Address. Anyone know if this is true?

Scary thought that they would want leave him in charge if the rest of our nations leaders spontaneously died...



I am pretty sure that the Constitution does not provide for the Attorney General to run the country. Try reading it sometime. It's good.

Um, maybe you need to check the posts above, hmmm?
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: 308nato
Originally posted by: Kyteland
I heard this morning that John Ashcroft was hidden away in an underground bunker somewhere on the off chance that Capitol Hill was obliterated during the State of the Union Address. Anyone know if this is true?

Scary thought that they would want leave him in charge if the rest of our nations leaders spontaneously died...



I am pretty sure that the Constitution does not provide for the Attorney General to run the country. Try reading it sometime. It's good.

Read your history, numbnuts.

Presidential Succession Act of 1947 ring a bell?
 

achiral

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it is a sad day when people know more about god damn computers than the american gov't. this is jr high material, guess you guys were too busy playing oregon trail and pong
 

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Originally posted by: achiral
it is a sad day when people know more about god damn computers than the american gov't. this is jr high material, guess you guys were too busy playing oregon trail and pong

Some of these guys, yes. For them, war and international politics are synonymous, despotism and fanaticism are nothing more than buzzwords they hear in soundbites on MTV.