Where to Live and Where to Work...

KrillBee

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Right now I just got done working a 3 month contract as a IT Desktop Support personel. I live in the Twin Cities, MN. I have no job plans, and havent a clue what i want to do. Last spring i graduated with a Psych degree. We'll see if i actually end up using it or not, lol.

Honestly, right now I just want a job that pays 30k+ per year, isnt super stressful, and doesnt take up more than 40 hours of my week (and preferably nor more than a 20 minute oneway commute). preferably no more contract jobs. I am skilled in basic IT stuff and of course there's that psych degree / business minor.

I'm also trying to figure out where I'm going to live in the future. Currently I'm living at home with the parents, and I want to move out soon. But I'm scared I couldnt afford it. I also dont like living with roomates either, lol. People tell me living alone is bad for one's mental health, but i guess i wouldnt know, never having done it. Someday I'd like to buy a small house. I could see myself getting married in the future, but not having kids.

any thoughts/advice ATOT?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I think Minnesota winters have damaged your brain. Living with your parents after HS is bad for your mental health. Course, I understand, it means cooking, cleaning and, shudder, doing laundry yourself.
 

getbush

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lEarn to live with others, i.e. roommates, or else you have no chance at life.
 

imported_croag

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Yo man - Honestly, forget about the psych degree and concentrate on the IT. Work like 50 - 55 hours a week right now to build your resume and make contacts. With your psych degree, you're probably pretty skilled at reading people and communicating effectively...leverage that to move yourself into a leadership position. Take on projects both at your job and at home to show your expertise. Be open to relocation to build your career. That should build your profile as an 'asset' to your current company and possible future employers.
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
I think Minnesota winters have damaged your brain. Living with your parents after HS is bad for your mental health. Course, I understand, it means cooking, cleaning and, shudder, doing laundry yourself.

i honestly hate minnesota winters. i want to move south eventually, but i figure i should gradually grow up. just moving out and moving south would be too big an adjustment. id live on my own here first.

i dont mind all the chores, im more concerned about not getting parents to pay for food and rent. and right now my dads paying for work done to my car, cuz technically its still his (but he said that will change when i move out)

also im on the family cell phone plan, and the family gym plan. so i dont pay a dime for those either.
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: getbush
lEarn to live with others, i.e. roommates, or else you have no chance at life.

i guess you gotta start from the bottom (less comfortable living situation) in order to work your way up? is that what you mean?

 

getbush

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In that case don't forget your favorite blanky and your night light when you finally (if ever) do move out.
 

getbush

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Originally posted by: KrillBee
Originally posted by: getbush
lEarn to live with others, i.e. roommates, or else you have no chance at life.

i guess you gotta start from the bottom (less comfortable living situation) in order to work your way up? is that what you mean?


No I meant more like, you are socially broken if you can't cohabitate with other human beings, and it's worth fixing.
Comfort is subjective. Eventually I would get uncomfortable from sitting in an empty apartment.
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: croag
Yo man - Honestly, forget about the psych degree and concentrate on the IT. Work like 50 - 55 hours a week right now to build your resume and make contacts. With your psych degree, you're probably pretty skilled at reading people and communicating effectively...leverage that to move yourself into a leadership position. Take on projects both at your job and at home to show your expertise. Be open to relocation to build your career. That should build your profile as an 'asset' to your current company and possible future employers.

ive thought about it, but ive heard most jobs in the IT fields are short term contract jobs, and that sucks. And 55 hours is a lot! id have a hard time having much of a life working that much.
im okay at reading people, but ironically im bad at communicating well with them, i try but its just awkward. im also more of an introvert.

is it super necessary to build contacts? what if im just not all that good at networking?
 

Reckoner

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Avoid IT like the plague unless you find a position that is extremely hard to outsource (good luck)
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: getbush

No I meant more like, you are socially broken if you can't cohabitate with other human beings, and it's worth fixing.
Comfort is subjective. Eventually I would get uncomfortable from sitting in an empty apartment.

why not just live alone but hang out with others during the day?
I just hate living with people who make messes in my area, and i dont like having to deal with their dumb friends, loud crappy music, etc.

cant one seek social comfort outside of their apartment, and then just be in their apartment only a little bit of the time?


Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Avoid IT like the plague unless you find a position that is extremely hard to outsource (good luck)

lotta ppl getting outsourced, eh? like good ol Dell laying off tons of helpdesk phone support workers to hire overseas ppl :)
 

getbush

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"I believe you have my stapler"

^^^ That's you in 10-20 years unless you force yourself to break away from mommy and daddy, learn to live with and communicate with others, and start networking with those in your field. You shouldn't waste any more time not working on those things.
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: getbush
"I believe you have my stapler"

^^^ That's you in 10-20 years unless you force yourself to break away from mommy and daddy, learn to live with and communicate with others, and start networking with those in your field. You shouldn't waste any more time not working on those things.

ive lived with others before, and i learned how to make it work, and ive decided that it just isnt all that fun or ideal. for some reason we tend to find more annoying living habits in other people, than positive ones.

im alright with the moving out part though, and doing what it takes to succeed.
 

imported_croag

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Man - honestly - Building contacts is KEY!! If you're not the best with communicating, I'd encourage you to persue communication centric activities like your life depended on it! Go forth and conguer! And IT isn't a bad spot to be, honestly, just blend yourself deep within your company's operations, be essential.
 

Xstatic1

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Originally posted by: getbush
"I believe you have my stapler"

^^^ That's you in 10-20 years unless you force yourself to break away from mommy and daddy, learn to live with and communicate with others, and start networking with those in your field. You shouldn't waste any more time not working on those things.

oh my gosh! i couldn't stop laughing after i read that movie quote!!! :D
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: KrillBee
Right now I just got done working a 3 month contract as a IT Desktop Support personel. I live in the Twin Cities, MN. I have no job plans, and havent a clue what i want to do. Last spring i graduated with a Psych degree. We'll see if i actually end up using it or not, lol.

Honestly, right now I just want a job that pays 30k+ per year, isnt super stressful, and doesnt take up more than 40 hours of my week (and preferably nor more than a 20 minute oneway commute). preferably no more contract jobs. I am skilled in basic IT stuff and of course there's that psych degree / business minor.

I'm also trying to figure out where I'm going to live in the future. Currently I'm living at home with the parents, and I want to move out soon. But I'm scared I couldnt afford it. I also dont like living with roomates either, lol. People tell me living alone is bad for one's mental health, but i guess i wouldnt know, never having done it. Someday I'd like to buy a small house. I could see myself getting married in the future, but not having kids.

any thoughts/advice ATOT?

wow.. $30k/year? aiming low huh? that's only $15/hr.

work at starbucks. $8/hr, get a shift supervisor position in 4 months $9.50/hr. (tips = $2/hr)
it was rated top 100 companies to work for.

and since they are growing so fast, you can be asst mgr in a year for a new store. thats $35k/year. and asst mgrs are still on the clock like the baristas and supervisors, thus if you go over 40hrs, you get overtime.

living alone is easy. have you heard of something called the internet and ATOT?

roomates are also easy. just make sure you have your own bathroom. only share the kitchen. see each other only when you're crossing paths.

living w/parents after you graduate = suxxors
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: JEDI


wow.. $30k/year? aiming low huh? that's only $15/hr.

work at starbucks. $8/hr, get a shift supervisor position in 4 months $9.50/hr. (tips = $2/hr)
it was rated top 100 companies to work for.

and since they are growing so fast, you can be asst mgr in a year for a new store. thats $35k/year. and asst mgrs are still on the clock like the baristas and supervisors, thus if you go over 40hrs, you get overtime.

living alone is easy. have you heard of something called the internet and ATOT?

roomates are also easy. just make sure you have your own bathroom. only share the kitchen. see each other only when you're crossing paths.

living w/parents after you graduate = suxxors


honestly, i guess i just dont know if i'm capable of making 30k, without jumping through a TON of hoops. I dont want to have to interview for 100 jobs to find one that pays 40k+
I'm fine with interviewing at say just 10 jobs, to find one that will hire me and pay me 30k.
I just hate all the interview/resume/appearances BS. I wish that it wasnt 100s of dogs trying to chase after the same bone. I hate how the corporate culture has changed so that a resume is now just one sheet in a huge stack or one file in a large computer database.
and i hate all the BS that people are basically required to put forth, in order to look good in the interview. questions and answers are scripted, and its all about putting on the perfect performance.
what the heck has coorporate america come to?

for roomates:
in a good enough apartment, having a roomate could work, provided they were the right roomate.
is living alone really that bad though? because that would be preferable. or would that screw with my mental health? i dont know cuz ive never tried it.
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: croag
Man - honestly - Building contacts is KEY!! If you're not the best with communicating, I'd encourage you to persue communication centric activities like your life depended on it! Go forth and conguer! And IT isn't a bad spot to be, honestly, just blend yourself deep within your company's operations, be essential.

someone once advised me to become a waiter or bartender and do that for a short period of time, just to work on my communication skills.