Where to get Liquid cooling set up and someone to install it

[puqdew]

Anyone know where I can get a liquid cooling setup from and someone who can install it for me in toronto, on? MSY, PC DIY have no idea when it comes to overclocking or these things. I want a bigger case so I can go liquid cooling and crossfire with 4890's.

Please let me know.

 

[yh125d]

Forgive me, but for someone who admittedly doesn't know about water cooling or overclocking you should probably stick to air. You may be able to find someone to do install it for you but it really sounds like a bunch of headache that isn't necessary

 

[brblx]

there are diminishing gains associated with the more extreme cooling setups. why not start with something a little less involved that watercooling?

with a little reading and the right chip you can get very respectable, relatively safe overclocks with air. two 4890's with quality coolers can also be pushed pretty far, and you'd probably be more than satisfied with a factory oc card (not sure if you were wanting to liquid cool the gpus as well).

 

[imported_nightwalker]

The high end air coolers can really hold their own now, (unless you're wanting to do some extreme OC'ing.) I'd stick with one of the favs : v8, TRUE120, megahalems, xigmatek dark knight.. then see how you get along.

Also the cost of liquid cooling all of that would be a fortune, i'd rather spend the money upgrading components instead.

 

[Eureka]

Originally posted by: brblx
there are diminishing gains associated with the more extreme cooling setups. why not start with something a little less involved that watercooling?

with a little reading and the right chip you can get very respectable, relatively safe overclocks with air. two 4890's with quality coolers can also be pushed pretty far, and you'd probably be more than satisfied with a factory oc card (not sure if you were wanting to liquid cool the gpus as well).

That's the truth... my 4890 gets 1ghz on air. And my CPU maxes out before it overheats. Air cooling is pretty impressive these days.

 

[starams5]

Agreed with the above, your heart has to be with water cooling and if that was the case you would be willing to install it yourself. No disrespect but you're not ready.

 

[Eureka]

Originally posted by: starams5
Agreed with the above, your heart has to be with water cooling and if that was the case you would be willing to install it yourself. No disrespect but you're not ready.

What are you talking about? My heart IS watercooled.

 

[mmntech]

Watercooling can potentially boost cooling power and is potentially quieter than strait air. That said, it's totally unnecessary. It's more of a novelty today. Water cooling is also vary expensive. You can't really get away with using cheap kits because 9 times out of 10, they fail. Most cooling problems associated with air are usually the result of poor airflow inside the case. Cleaning up wires and rearranging fans can fix that. Using third party GPU coolers helps a lot.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: mmntech
* Watercooling can potentially boost cooling power and is potentially quieter than strait air.

* You can't really get away with using cheap kits because 9 times out of 10, they fail.

* Most cooling problems associated with air are usually the result of poor airflow inside the case.
* Cleaning up wires and rearranging fans can fix that.

* Using third party GPU coolers helps a lot.

1. The word "potentially" cannot be stressed enough when considering water over air cooling.
You can spend lots of money and still end up with inferior cooling than with a well thought out air cooling system.

2. As to the cheap kit statistic of "9 times out of 10, they fail"...
I've got a feeling that number was pulled out of thin air. A 90% failure rate would be publicised in every kit cooling review written.

3. True that poor air flow inside the case deteriorates the effectiveness of any air cooling system.
4. Poor air flow cannot be fixed by merely moving some wires out of the air path.
It's got more to do with component placement, fan specification/performance, cleanliness and case flow design.

5. After market GPU coolers can help keep graphic cards cool, as long as the rest of the case air flow issues are resolved.

 

[mmntech]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: mmntech
* Watercooling can potentially boost cooling power and is potentially quieter than strait air.

* You can't really get away with using cheap kits because 9 times out of 10, they fail.

* Most cooling problems associated with air are usually the result of poor airflow inside the case.
* Cleaning up wires and rearranging fans can fix that.

* Using third party GPU coolers helps a lot.

1. The word "potentially" cannot be stressed enough when considering water over air cooling.
You can spend lots of money and still end up with inferior cooling than with a well thought out air cooling system.

2. As to the cheap kit statistic of "9 times out of 10, they fail"...
I've got a feeling that number was pulled out of thin air. A 90% failure rate would be publicised in every kit cooling review written.

3. True that poor air flow inside the case deteriorates the effectiveness of any air cooling system.
4. Poor air flow cannot be fixed by merely moving some wires out of the air path.
It's got more to do with component placement, fan specification/performance, cleanliness and case flow design.

5. After market GPU coolers can help keep graphic cards cool, as long as the rest of the case air flow issues are resolved.

I think you're reading way too much into what I said.

 

[supertle55]

If you want to pay someone to install it, you might as well skip paying someone and overclocking it. Buy the faster more expensive computer/parts. Overclocking is a hobby and to save some money.

 

[Eureka]

Originally posted by: supertle55
If you want to pay someone to install it, you might as well skip paying someone and overclocking it. Buy the faster more expensive computer/parts. Overclocking is a hobby and to save some money.

Well overclocking is fun, but I doubt that anyone who seriously overclocks is looking to save money. Buying brand name components isn't exactly money saving.

 

[brblx]

yeah, i bought a 300a and a 1700+ and all those other chips because they were 'fun'...

no, i did it because they saved me money.

 

[MarcVenice]

Tbh, in our lab we've got a thermaltake bigwater 780-kit for a few weeks now. Double 120mm rad, 500 l/h pump, and it keeps a Phenom II 955 cool at 3,8GHz. 40c load on all 4 cores, prime 95. It's not half bad.

Right now I'll be testing the H50 from Corsair. It's said it can beat a TRUE, and won't cost much more at all.

All in all, there are some 'okay' waterkits out there. Building it yourself would be better. But if you want watercooling, and have the money but not the expertise, it ain't half-bad.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Right now I'll be testing the H50 from Corsair.

Forget that H50 and get to the PanzerBox

 

[starams5]

I can see your mind is made up but consider what mmntech said above as it can be expensive, in the beginning I wasted a lot of money. Save yourself some grief and go with a starter kit which is easy to expand like the H20-220 Apex Ultima.
http://www.swiftnets.com/produ...20-220-APEX-ULTIMA.asp