where the hell do they get there information from?

[gigapet]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040702/bs_nm/economy_usa_dc_2

SHRINKING WORK WEEK


But there were some signs of broader weakness, including a decrease in the average workweek to 33.6 hours from 33.8 in May, the shortest since a matching level in December. The manufacturing sector lost 11,000 jobs, a reversal after four straight months in which factories added jobs after years of decline.



how the hell are work weeks getting shorter? What companies were being interviewed? this is the biggest crock of sh1t i read all day thats for sure.....

 

[sygyzy]

You have got to be joking. Read the NUMEROUS "how many hours a day do you work" threads here. I am surprised it's not lower.

 

[gigapet]

i dont know anyone fulltime in my compnay that works less than 40 hours a week.....my company employees 8000 ppl

 

[NutBucket]

Less hours per employee = less benefits

 

[dullard]

Not everyone works full time... The average is always in the mid 30s if you include ALL workers.

 

[gigapet]

i understand that.....retired people obviously dont work at all......this is why i wanted to know where the hell they get there numbers

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: gigapet
i understand that.....retired people obviously dont work at all......this is why i wanted to know where the hell they get there numbers

I don't think they include unemployed people - as that does not make sense. They want to know what the average work week of the average worker is.

Plus you have to include holidays, vacations, sick days, etc. Imagine you work 40 hours a week, but you get 2 weeks vacation a year. 40*50 = 2000 hours worked. Now divide by 52 weeks and you averaged 38.5 hours a week. And that doesn't include days off for Regans funeral, fourth of July, etc.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: gigapet
i understand that.....retired people obviously dont work at all......this is why i wanted to know where the hell they get there numbers

magic 8 ball

 

They probably farm their data from companies like Paychex and Manpower. Why are you so confused about how they get their data? It's not like hours are some secret data that companies don't release or something. In aggregated form, it's fine.

 

[FrogDog]

Originally posted by: jumpr
They probably farm their data from companies like Paychex and Manpower. Why are you so confused about how they get their data? It's not like hours are some secret data that companies don't release or something. In aggregated form, it's fine.

Yeah I don't really know why you're so confused (and outraged) about this, gigapet.

 

[Ikonomi]

I believe they're getting their information from over there.

 

[gigapet]

how do they account for salary employees who are paid on a 40 hour week but might actually be putting in 60 hours a week.....

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi
I believe they're getting their information from over there.

"There! They're there. Their ____ is there." <- What I say when I excitingly find something a group of people lost. Fill in the blank with what they lost.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi
I believe they're getting their information from over there.

thank you for chiming in grammar nazi.....

again not every1 is only posting on forums they are juggling other tasks so may not care to read thru and make sure that every werd is spelled right.....or that every there they're and their is in the right context......pat yourself on the back ...i gues i owe you a hand job for bringin this to my attention.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: gigapet
how do they account for salary employees who are paid on a 40 hour week but might actually be putting in 60 hours a week.....

you don't. Like any other statistic, you take this with a grain of salt.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: gigapet
i dont know anyone fulltime in my compnay that works less than 40 hours a week.....my company employees 8000 ppl

Dude, you should read the news more carefully. The article said nothing about full time employees. They put part time and full time together, because the under-employed, part time people count, too.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: FrogDog

Originally posted by: jumpr
They probably farm their data from companies like Paychex and Manpower. Why are you so confused about how they get their data? It's not like hours are some secret data that companies don't release or something. In aggregated form, it's fine.

Yeah I don't really know why you're so confused (and outraged) about this, gigapet.

i wouldnt say i'm outraged....it seems to me at least this days people are working longer hours for less pay just becuase they need to in order to not get laid off......

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: gigapet
how do they account for salary employees who are paid on a 40 hour week but might actually be putting in 60 hours a week.....

This popped up by typing "Average work week data source" into google. It was the first link.

"The CPS survey is a household survey; the CES survey is an establishment survey. The CPS hours data is based on workers? reports on the hours they actually worked and includes all jobs they held during the survey reference period. The CES survey represents employers? reports on the employees? paid hours of work. If a person works for more than one employer, the hours are reported separately for each. For example, in the CES a person working two part-time jobs of 20 hours a week is counted as having two 20-hour jobs, but in the CPS , the same individual is counted as one worker working 40 hours.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: FrogDog

Originally posted by: jumpr
They probably farm their data from companies like Paychex and Manpower. Why are you so confused about how they get their data? It's not like hours are some secret data that companies don't release or something. In aggregated form, it's fine.

Yeah I don't really know why you're so confused (and outraged) about this, gigapet.

i wouldnt say i'm outraged....it seems to me at least this days people are working longer hours for less pay just becuase they need to in order to not get laid off......

uh, and where do you come up with that theory?

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: gigapet
how do they account for salary employees who are paid on a 40 hour week but might actually be putting in 60 hours a week.....

This popped up by typing "Average work week data source" into google. It was the first link.

"The CPS survey is a household survey; the CES survey is an establishment survey. The CPS hours data is based on workers? reports on the hours they actually worked and includes all jobs they held during the survey reference period. The CES survey represents employers? reports on the employees? paid hours of work. If a person works for more than one employer, the hours are reported separately for each. For example, in the CES a person working two part-time jobs of 20 hours a week is counted as having two 20-hour jobs, but in the CPS , the same individual is counted as one worker working 40 hours.

ok at any rate...its a pretty useless statisstic

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: gigapet
how do they account for salary employees who are paid on a 40 hour week but might actually be putting in 60 hours a week.....

This popped up by typing "Average work week data source" into google. It was the first link.

"The CPS survey is a household survey; the CES survey is an establishment survey. The CPS hours data is based on workers? reports on the hours they actually worked and includes all jobs they held during the survey reference period. The CES survey represents employers? reports on the employees? paid hours of work. If a person works for more than one employer, the hours are reported separately for each. For example, in the CES a person working two part-time jobs of 20 hours a week is counted as having two 20-hour jobs, but in the CPS , the same individual is counted as one worker working 40 hours.

Thanks, but this is obviously a wasted post on gigapet's part. His reading comprehension skills are obviously too low too understand that paragraph.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: FrogDog

Originally posted by: jumpr
They probably farm their data from companies like Paychex and Manpower. Why are you so confused about how they get their data? It's not like hours are some secret data that companies don't release or something. In aggregated form, it's fine.

Yeah I don't really know why you're so confused (and outraged) about this, gigapet.

i wouldnt say i'm outraged....it seems to me at least this days people are working longer hours for less pay just becuase they need to in order to not get laid off......

uh, and where do you come up with that theory?

like i said it seems to me.....my experience at my work place.....was not blanket statement

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: FrogDog

Originally posted by: jumpr
They probably farm their data from companies like Paychex and Manpower. Why are you so confused about how they get their data? It's not like hours are some secret data that companies don't release or something. In aggregated form, it's fine.

Yeah I don't really know why you're so confused (and outraged) about this, gigapet.

i wouldnt say i'm outraged....it seems to me at least this days people are working longer hours for less pay just becuase they need to in order to not get laid off......

uh, and where do you come up with that theory?

like i said it seems to me.....my experience at my work place.....was not blanket statement

gotcha, I just don't see the same. In fact, I know my department works less that we did 4-5 years ago and make much more, especially since HR implement salary ranges.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: FrogDog

Originally posted by: jumpr
They probably farm their data from companies like Paychex and Manpower. Why are you so confused about how they get their data? It's not like hours are some secret data that companies don't release or something. In aggregated form, it's fine.

Yeah I don't really know why you're so confused (and outraged) about this, gigapet.

i wouldnt say i'm outraged....it seems to me at least this days people are working longer hours for less pay just becuase they need to in order to not get laid off......

uh, and where do you come up with that theory?

like i said it seems to me.....my experience at my work place.....was not blanket statement

This is a macro-economic statistic, it has nothing to do with your individual work place. It is an aggregate employment statistic. So your company may require over 40 hours a week, but CPA's apparently doesn't, and WALMART certainly doesn't, either.

 

[cquark]

Americans work more hours per year than people in most industrialized countries, but there are a lot of part time workers. See this article for some comparisons.