Where Romney's Money Lives

[techs]

I have always wondered how money in the bank in the Caymans creates jobs in the US?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by Lemon law
Does anyone wonder how Mittems made his money? You don't go from being a starved graduate student at business school to a bazzillionare without foreclosing on widows and orphans and stealing candy from babies.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! That was funny. You should be a comedian!

or a paid shill for Republicans.

Let's see you disclose how much you are making posting.

 

[dmcowen674]

What a sad state our country is in when success is a bad thing that is frowned upon and painted to be a detriment

If Mr. Romney has broken laws, charge him and prosecute him to the fullest extent of those laws.

The left is circling the wagons in a circle jerk of impotence that the rest of us are laughing at. The desperation can be cut with a knife.

When success is made via lies, cheating and destroying America it is certainly deserved to be frowned upon.

That's not desperation you hear, it is a revolution brewing against your kind.

 

[hal2kilo]

Obama should release his school transcripts. That would be some embarrassment for Obama!

Yeah, this is just as stupid as demanding the tax returns.

Must divert!

 

[Bowfinger]

Your usual pile of fact-free, melodramatic bullshit.

I don't see anyone having a problem with "success" in general. In fact, rich movie stars, athletes and entrepreneurs are some of the most celebrated and respected people in the country. I could name names, but there isn't even any need.

What people frown upon is success that is gained through dubious and unethical means. People frown upon those who play games, act dishonestly, and hide their activities and finances while running for public office.

The problem isn't Mitt Romney's money. The problem is Mitt Romney.



Exalted? More bullshit.

If Obama's term had gone better, we wouldn't even be having this discussion -- the election would be a repeat of 1996.

Polling shows clearly that Obama's job approval is mediocre, but he's polling above the approval figures. What this means is obvious: a lot of people don't think Obama is that hot, they just don't see a better alternative. Put me in that category.



Whistling past the graveyard. Loudly.

This attack is making the right panic specifically because it is effective. Even if he hasn't done anything technically illegal, it makes him look (even more) like a self-entitled weasel who plays by his own rules and only wants to make more money for himself and his rich friends.



The only desperation I see is from self-deluded right-wingers screaming at the top of their lungs: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

Well said sir! Exactly so.

It is pathetic to see the usual wing-nut apologists flogging their lame excuses and duhversions against such a simple act of transparency -- routinely offered on both sides of the aisle. Sorry ladies, but your hypocrisy is showing.

 

[soulcougher73]

What a sad state our country is in when success is a bad thing that is frowned upon and painted to be a detriment, albeit by a militant minority. All the while, a man whose presidential term is painted with abject failure is exhalted, again by the same militant minority.

If Mr. Romney has broken laws, charge him and prosecute him to the fullest extent of those laws. Otherwise, continue to appeal to the sensibilities of weak minds with stories like these. Do it often enough, and those still capable of using their brains will be turned off from the community organizer who excels at running his mouth and nothing else.

The left is circling the wagons in a circle jerk of impotence that the rest of us are laughing at. The desperation can be cut with a knife.

It is not a bad thing when the majority of the people think you attained your money ethically. Notice i didnt say legally. The majority of people do not think rich people today attain their money ethically. That is where the problem lies for Romney.

 

[cybrsage]

Obama isn't running for president based on school transcripts from a quarter century ago.

Romney is running for president based on his track record as a businessman.

And you need to see a tax return to know that Romney was a businessman? Seriously?

 

[Wreckem]

What a sad state our country is in when success is a bad thing that is frowned upon and painted to be a detriment, albeit by a militant minority. All the while, a man whose presidential term is painted with abject failure is exhalted, again by the same militant minority.

If Mr. Romney has broken laws, charge him and prosecute him to the fullest extent of those laws. Otherwise, continue to appeal to the sensibilities of weak minds with stories like these. Do it often enough, and those still capable of using their brains will be turned off from the community organizer who excels at running his mouth and nothing else.

The left is circling the wagons in a circle jerk of impotence that the rest of us are laughing at. The desperation can be cut with a knife.

When your success was caused by the things you are campaigning against/claimed you never did. Its not about success. Its about being a hypocrite. The right went after Kerry all the time over his finances, hes being out of touch, etc etc. Now, some, dont seem to care about the same thing in Romney. Except, Romney is far worse. It is obvious he is hiding stuff. If he wasn't he would have stuck with tradition.

Romney was Robber Barron extraordinaire and had more impact(negative I might add) on unemployment than a President could ever hope to have.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

I'm sick of reading the obvious trolls in this forum claiming to be Republicans and saying that everyone else is a socialist, lefty, success hater. It's like a pathetic rap song.

You ain't seen money like me
You hating cuz I got stacks of G's
You can't feel my offshore accounts
Oh shit they want my tax returns
I guess now is the time to bounce

Seriously, so fucking childish. Grow up people.

 

[boomerang]

I'm sick of reading the obvious trolls in this forum claiming to be Republicans and saying that everyone else is a socialist, lefty, success hater. It's like a pathetic rap song.

You ain't seen money like me
You hating cuz I got stacks of G's
You can't feel my offshore accounts
Oh shit they want my tax returns
I guess now is the time to bounce

Seriously, so fucking childish. Grow up people.

Decide what you stand for. One day you're renouncing the Right, the next day you're not sure if you're on the Left, the next day you're certain the world is coming to an end and blubbering like a school girl about it.

Develop some beliefs and stand up for them. Grow a pair.

 

[cybrsage]

When your success was caused by the things you are campaigning against/claimed you never did. Its not about success. Its about being a hypocrite. The right went after Kerry all the time over his finances, hes being out of touch, etc etc. Now, some, dont seem to care about the same thing in Romney. Except, Romney is far worse. It is obvious he is hiding stuff. If he wasn't he would have stuck with tradition.

Romney was Robber Barron extraordinaire and had more impact(negative I might add) on unemployment than a President could ever hope to have.

Romney's tax returns will not show which grandmothers he strangled and took the money from their pocketbooks...so it will not do what you want.

Seriously, you want to see his tax returns for what exact reason?

 

[yllus]

If this is the worst you have against Romney, sorry, but you guys are just sad.

In an election that will be about A) the economy, B) the economy and C) the economy, the gauged level of trustworthiness and answer to the "Will he be looking out for my interests?" question in the minds of the average voter will be paramount. This is an extremely strong attack vector.

 

[cybrsage]

It is? What the returns show, that Romney made a lot of money? Do we seriously need to see the returns to know this? Or will we see that Romney followed the tax code and did not pay more in taxes than he had to pay, which is just like what every other American does? Maybe we will see that he gives a lot of money to charity - FAR more than the average American gives?

What we will not see is cheating on the returns...but the dems know this already.


So what is the REAL reason for wanting to see the returns? So far, all the reasons given are just as specious as the ones used by birthers. Returners = birthers = transcripters in their idiocy to see papers which simply are not relevant.

 

[dawheat]

Romney's tax returns will not show which grandmothers he strangled and took the money from their pocketbooks...so it will not do what you want.

Seriously, you want to see his tax returns for what exact reason?

For me, since tax reform is one of his major agenda items, I'd like to see what affect his proposals would have on his taxes. Let's say that using all the loopholes available, Romney managed to pay a very low % of taxes (let's say <10%) for a number of years, it points to the credibility of supporting additional tax cuts on the very wealthy and then believing that cutting it further will spurn job growth.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

And you need to see a tax return to know that Romney was a businessman? Seriously?

I need to see tax returns to know how Romney was a businessman.

And I need to see his tax returns to understand how his tax proposals will impact him personally.

Finally, the main reason I want to see his tax returns is that he doesn't want to show me his tax returns. Apparently he hasn't learned anything from fathering five children.

 

[cybrsage]

You do not have to see Romney's returns for that, you can use any number of rich people's returns. Heck, you can invent a rich person and create a return for someone who never existed, based on using the most loop holes practicable and then see the effect of closing them.

We do not need Romney's returns, specifically, to do this stuff.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Nobody should ever be elected president who is so obviously and blatantly hiding something so major in their very recent history. Period.

 

[cybrsage]

I need to see tax returns to know how Romney was a businessman.

His tax returns will not show you this.

And I need to see his tax returns to understand how his tax proposals will impact him personally.

Why? It does not affect you in any way, shape, or form, so why do you need to see how it will affect him? If you simply want to know how it will effect the average rich businessman, you can easily find that out. If you want to know how it will effect the average rich state governor, that is easy to find out as well. Why do you need to know his specific numbers? What does that actually gain you?

Finally, the main reason I want to see his tax returns is that he doesn't want to show me his tax returns. Apparently he hasn't learned anything from fathering five children.

So you also say Obama should show his college transcripts, and you railed against Obama for not releasing the long form birth certificate when he was refusing to do so?

 

[cybrsage]

Nobody should ever be elected president who is so obviously and blatantly hiding something so major in their very recent history. Period.

So you are against Obama being elected President? His administration is VERY opaque. How much money Romney paid in taxes is a major thing? Really? You honestly think that?

 

[Charles Kozierok]

His tax returns will not show you this.

They will fill in some very important data for me. If they won't for you, well, you're entitled to your opinion.

It does not affect you in any way, shape, or form, so why do you need to see how it will affect him?

He's a very rich guy making tax proposals to favor very rich guys. I think we have a right to see exactly how much he personally would benefit from his plans.

It's pretty basic common sense.

If you simply want to know how it will effect the average rich businessman, you can easily find that out.

I already know that. I want American voters to see just how much of a further tax break Romney wants for himself personally.

So you also say Obama should show his college transcripts, and you railed against Obama for not releasing the long form birth certificate when he was refusing to do so?

College transcripts have no bearing on governance. They are also something no president has ever been asked before. Demanding them is pure racism, an attempt to claim that because Obama is not white, he couldn't possibly have gotten into school or done well on his own.

As for the birth certificate, I didn't demand he release the long form, but I do understand how his refusal to do so just made the issue worse. And in the end, so did he.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

So you are against Obama being elected President?

Yes, I am. Unfortunately, the alternative that the GOP has provided is even less acceptable. It's one thing to be "opaque in governance", quite another to be engaging in behavior before election that even your own father directly suggested means you're covering things up.

 

[cybrsage]

They will fill in some very important data for me. If they won't for you, well, you're entitled to your opinion.

What data is this?

He's a very rich guy making tax proposals to favor very rich guys. I think we have a right to see exactly how much he personally would benefit from his plans.

It's pretty basic common sense.

Then you already know your answer without needing specifics. You already hate him due to misinformation, and any specifics would do nothing at all. No real need to see them.

I already know that. I want American voters to see just how much of a further tax break Romney wants for himself personally.

Romney released his tax returns — nearly 550 pages, including the 2010 returns for three family trust funds and a foundation — in a bid to regain his footing in the Republican presidential campaign after stumbling badly in last weekend’s South Carolina primary.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romney-releases-tax-returns/2012/01/23/gIQAj5bUMQ_story.html

Have at it.

College transcripts have no bearing on governance. They are also something no president has ever been asked before. Demanding them is pure racism, an attempt to claim that because Obama is not white, he couldn't possibly have gotten into school or done well on his own.

Finally, the main reason I want to see his tax returns is that he doesn't want to show me his tax returns. Apparently he hasn't learned anything from fathering five children.

Obama has two children, but your line of reasoning is the same. If this is actually your main reason, why do you not also hold it against Obama? Shouldn't the main reason for Obama to show his transcripts be that he does not want to show you his transcripts? That he apparently hasn't learned anything from fathering two children?

Or is this line of reasoning only valid against republicans?

As for the birth certificate, I didn't demand he release the long form, but I do understand how his refusal to do so just made the issue worse. And in the end, so did he.

So only republicans have to show everything demanded of them, democrats do not have to. Gotcha.

 

[bfdd]

Romney is a tool bag snake. I've been saying it for a long time now and I still think he hasn't a shot in hell of winning. Republicans are hoping voters don't like Obama, not that voters like Romney. Many of the registered Republicans I've talked to simply want someone other than Obama.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

What data is this?

I'm not playing your games, sorry. It's patently obvious what it is people want to see in his tax returns.

Then you already know your answer without needing specifics. You already hate him due to misinformation, and any specifics would do nothing at all. No real need to see them.

You're claiming that I hate him due to "misinformation" and using that as a justificiation for not letting me see the actual "information" that I'm allegedly "misinformed" about. That's irrational.

Have at it.

“One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show.” -- George Romney

Sucks, don't it?

There are lots of games that require multiple years to pull off.

Obama has two children, but your line of reasoning is the same.

The line about parenting was in reference to what most parents know: if you try to hide something from your kids, you just make them more and more curious about it.

So only republicans have to show everything demanded of them, democrats do not have to. Gotcha.

That's not what I said. You're pulling your schtick again.

 

[sm625]

Not to defend Obomney, but it would be stupid to give the government money when you dont legally have to. Just plain stupid. Look what they do with the money!