Where is part 2 of Galaxy S4 review ?

[thepath]

When anandtech is going to make part 2 of Galaxy S4 review ?

I've been waiting for it for weeks

 

[s44]

LOL. Same place the DNA review is, or the Z10.

Actually, we know where the Z10 review went. So same as the DNA, or Optimus G Pro, or...

In this case, though, the announcement of the Google version pretty much guarantees
(1) we won't see any more about the non-Google S4 before that one comes out in a month
(2) we'll see a big review of that in most of the tech press

So, answer: it's waiting for Mountain View.

 

[dguy6789]

Don't forget the Droid Razr Maxx HD!

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

over-promising as usual.

 

[Red Storm]

It's pretty bad how late AT is with most of their mobile - actually, more like Android - reviews, I don't think they have enough people working in that area.

 

[ChronoReverse]

The first review pretty much covered most of the interesting bits didn't it?

 

[Bman123]

What else do you want to know that you can't find on Google?

 

[Crono]

It's a really busy time of the year with all the tech conferences going on. Brian Klug is pretty much the only dedicated smartphone writer as far as I know, though Anand and I think Vivek contribute from time to time.

AnandTech isn't very aggressive in pushing out reviews right away, but the time and dedication to each review certainly pays off as you can see from the HTC One or S4 Part 1 review. Even that Part 1 was a lot more thorough than full reviews from other tech news sites.

 

[pm]

Brian Klug doesn't usually read the forums - although he's been known to post occassionally.

Your best place to ask, ThePath, is on his twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/nerdtalker

If you don't do Twitter (I don't), then send me a Private Message and I'll email Brian.

 

[gevorg]

its all about the iPhone

 

[Hunt3rj2]

Basically the important bits were all covered in Part 1. Part 2 is going to come... eventually.

Only one person does these reviews, so things take a while.

 

[lothar]

It's a really busy time of the year with all the tech conferences going on. Brian Klug is pretty much the only dedicated smartphone writer as far as I know, though Anand and I think Vivek contribute from time to time.

AnandTech isn't very aggressive in pushing out reviews right away, but the time and dedication to each review certainly pays off as you can see from the HTC One or S4 Part 1 review. Even that Part 1 was a lot more thorough than full reviews from other tech news sites.

I thought Anandtech always had 2 staff members dedicated to each section?
GPU, Motherboards, etc...
I remember when both Gary Key and Ian Cutress were reviewing motherboards at the same time.

Clearly, Brian Klug is overworked and needs a partner.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

It's a really busy time of the year with all the tech conferences going on. Brian Klug is pretty much the only dedicated smartphone writer as far as I know, though Anand and I think Vivek contribute from time to time.

AnandTech isn't very aggressive in pushing out reviews right away, but the time and dedication to each review certainly pays off as you can see from the HTC One or S4 Part 1 review. Even that Part 1 was a lot more thorough than full reviews from other tech news sites.

The issue is no one wants to go back after releasing Part 1. This is how most projects work. You deliver? Done. If you have reservations or know that there's some second phase or improvement you'd like to make, you have to either bake it in now or have some sort of closed loop system forcing you to do it. Otherwise, once you deliver you're done. I'm talking about any project, work, homework, research, anything. That's just how we work.

This isn't just Brian, it's the rest of AT. I remember when Nehalem first debuted and they said they were going to do a DDR3 roundup and a complete OC guide, etc. Neither came out.

In general I see AT with almost no focus. It's the products that interest Brian or Anand, or whatever. Remember when they used to review every CPU, every motherboard, and do roundups, etc? I know those days of hardware reviews are dying, but there are those who still appreciate Tom's GPU charts or whatever. I see a lot of half-assed comparisons like apples and oranges comparisons on Anandtech now that it's quite disappointing. It's like for case reviews--AT reviewed the NZXT 630 and 820 and gave it high marks. Proclaimed them to be best in class, etc, whatever, and then the next reviews omitted those results entirely. How does that even help?

Moreover, they need to look at maintaining test platforms. People don't upgrade cases every year. I can guarantee you there's a good chunk of the population here with Antec P182 cases or something like that. It was a popular case. I think something on their mind is whether a new Define R4 would help or not. It helps to have those comparisons. The Dell 2713 review too, wtf. Why would you NOT compare it to the 2711? Or the 2707? They need to realize that people aren't just shopping between competitors, but also contemplating whether an upgrade is warranted. IF they did reviews of the 2711, and 2707, they need to include this. Maybe the test method keeps changing, but what good is a constantly changing test platform if all you can include are only a handful of comparisons because you never can build a database?

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I would rather Anandtech take the time with their reviews than do the kind of shoddy job that the Verge and other sites of their ilk do and post Day 0 reviews that don't really tell me anything. The HTC One review was a masterpiece, and it's one of the main reasons I like Anandtech better than just about any other tech site on the Net.

 

[poofyhairguy]

It's the products that interest Brian or Anand, or whatever.

Exactly. The HTC One gets two reviews. The S4 gets half a review. Any iPhone gets a mega review. Its their priorities on mobile.

 

[Crono]

I would rather Anandtech take the time with their reviews than do the kind of shoddy job that the Verge and other sites of their ilk do and post Day 0 reviews that don't really tell me anything. The HTC One review was a masterpiece, and it's one of the main reasons I like Anandtech better than just about any other tech site on the Net.

I couldn't agree more.

And what you see from a lot of those other sites is that they'll quote or point to AnandTech as a source. AnandTech may not have the name recognition or as many readers as The Verge or Endgadget, but its easily one of the most if not the most respected computer hardware review sites on the entire planet.

 

[Bateluer]

Don't forget the Droid Razr Maxx HD!

Too late to do much with it now, except it should be included in ALL battery life charts. :/

 

[lothar]

I would rather Anandtech take the time with their reviews than do the kind of shoddy job that the Verge and other sites of their ilk do and post Day 0 reviews that don't really tell me anything. The HTC One review was a masterpiece, and it's one of the main reasons I like Anandtech better than just about any other tech site on the Net.

Tell that to the people waiting for a Droid Razr Maxx HD, Droid DNA, Xperia Z, or Blackberry Z10. I'm sure they would appreciate that Anandtech is "taking the time with their reviews" so they don't do a shoddy job.
If Anandtech is taking their sweet time with their reviews like you claimed, I'd expect their Droid Razr Maxx HD and Blackberry Z10 reviews to be entirely spotless whenever it arrives.

Even if you're not going to do a full review, at least show it in graph comparisons during review of other phones.
There is absolutely no excuse why the Droid Razr Maxx HD(king of all phones in battery life) isn't included in any battery test comparisons of phone reviews...Absolutely no reason.

I would rather get a review than to get NO reviews.

 

[lothar]

I couldn't agree more.

And what you see from a lot of those other sites is that they'll quote or point to AnandTech as a source. AnandTech may not have the name recognition or as many readers as The Verge or Endgadget, but its easily one of the most if not the most respected computer hardware review sites on the entire planet.

Depends on the subject at hand.
For CPU's and SSD's: Anandtech is still the best. By a mile.
For motherboards: Anandtech was the best by a mile when Gary Key was there doing motherboard roundups for Intel and AMD chipsets. But now, it's just meh...
For GPU's: Anandtech was the best by a mile and if Ryan Smith is still doing the GPU reviews I'll assume it still is. I haven't bought a new GPU in 4 years, so I haven't kept up in detail.
For smartphones: At this point I'd put it behind GSMArena in a close second. They're clearly not the leader here like they are(or were) in their other hardware sections and it's very noticeable. It doesn't take much to beat stupid sites like The Verge and Engadget with their "subjective" reviews.


My basic point is this:
For major things like CPU or SSD, I don't waste my time checking places like Tom's, Xbit labs, or whatever etc...for validation. Reading Anandtech's review on CPU and SSD's is enough for me to form an informed and accurate opinion.

For GPU's, I check Anandtech and HardOCP(only because they have for years been testing other things that Anandtech didn't test in their reviews) and I'm done.

I find that for Smartphones, I still always have to check other sources like GSMarena and such for validation.
There is no perfect Smartphone site yet, but Anandtech isn't a clear first to me like it is in the other Computer categories. Again, if anything I'd say it's a close second. Stupid sites like the Verge, Engadget, and others are dead last...The only time I even read reviews from those places is when someone links them here.

 

[lothar]

The issue is no one wants to go back after releasing Part 1. This is how most projects work. You deliver? Done. If you have reservations or know that there's some second phase or improvement you'd like to make, you have to either bake it in now or have some sort of closed loop system forcing you to do it. Otherwise, once you deliver you're done. I'm talking about any project, work, homework, research, anything. That's just how we work.

This isn't just Brian, it's the rest of AT. I remember when Nehalem first debuted and they said they were going to do a DDR3 roundup and a complete OC guide, etc. Neither came out.

In general I see AT with almost no focus. It's the products that interest Brian or Anand, or whatever. Remember when they used to review every CPU, every motherboard, and do roundups, etc? I know those days of hardware reviews are dying, but there are those who still appreciate Tom's GPU charts or whatever. I see a lot of half-assed comparisons like apples and oranges comparisons on Anandtech now that it's quite disappointing. It's like for case reviews--AT reviewed the NZXT 630 and 820 and gave it high marks. Proclaimed them to be best in class, etc, whatever, and then the next reviews omitted those results entirely. How does that even help?

Moreover, they need to look at maintaining test platforms. People don't upgrade cases every year. I can guarantee you there's a good chunk of the population here with Antec P182 cases or something like that. It was a popular case. I think something on their mind is whether a new Define R4 would help or not. It helps to have those comparisons. The Dell 2713 review too, wtf. Why would you NOT compare it to the 2711? Or the 2707? They need to realize that people aren't just shopping between competitors, but also contemplating whether an upgrade is warranted. IF they did reviews of the 2711, and 2707, they need to include this. Maybe the test method keeps changing, but what good is a constantly changing test platform if all you can include are only a handful of comparisons because you never can build a database?

If they don't want to go back to it then they should have just call it "xxx review" and be done with rather than adding "part 1" at the end making everyone else expectant.
Gary Key promised us a motherboard roundup for Lynnfield. That never arrived because I believe he left Anandtech to work for either ASUS or ASRock.

Good lord...Tell me about it.
I remember the days when Anandtech used to do Motherboard roundups from ALL the manufacturers like ASUS, ASRock, Abit, Gigabyte, DFI, MSI, Biostar, eVGA, Foxconn, Sapphire, ECS, etc...All in one super big review with description of features of each, pictures, FPS, other benchmarks(like WinRAR, USB, SATA, LAN, etc...), temperature, maximum stable overclock settings reached, etc...

I remember the days when Anandtech used to do GPU roundups from ALL the manufacturers of a particular AMD GPU or Nvidia GPU from ASUS, eVGA, MSI, Sapphire, Gigabyte, PowerColor, ChainTech, Sparkle, Leadtek, Galaxy, HIS, XFX, VisionTek, etc...All in one super big review with description of features of each, pictures, FPS, temperature, fan noise, maximum stable overclock settings reached, etc...

I remember the days when Anandtech used to do DDR memory roundups from ALL the manufacturers like OCZ, Crucial, Mushkin, Corsair, G.Skill, Patroit, Geil, Samsung, Team, etc...All in one super big review with features/settings of each, pictures, FPS and other benchmarks, temperature, maximum stable overclock settings reached, maximum performance settings that balances CAS rating with overclock bandwidth, etc...

Sadly, I think those days of "roundups" from Anandtech reviews are long gone.

Besides Anand himself, I'd say Gary Key is by far one of the best reviewers Anandtech ever had.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Tell that to the people waiting for a Droid Razr Maxx HD, Droid DNA, Xperia Z, or Blackberry Z10. I'm sure they would appreciate that Anandtech is "taking the time with their reviews" so they don't do a shoddy job.
If Anandtech is taking their sweet time with their reviews like you claimed, I'd expect their Droid Razr Maxx HD and Blackberry Z10 reviews to be entirely spotless whenever it arrives.

Even if you're not going to do a full review, at least show it in graph comparisons during review of other phones.
There is absolutely no excuse why the Droid Razr Maxx HD(king of all phones in battery life) isn't included in any battery test comparisons of phone reviews...Absolutely no reason.

I would rather get a review than to get NO reviews.

I'd rather have the uncertainty rather than 'fake' certainty. For example, I actually would rather have no review than the shit that Engadget and CNET post up, they don't focus on what I find important and frankly, apart from the performance aspect of it I could easily find out the same as what they post from a few minutes handling the phone at a store.

 

[lothar]

I'd rather have the uncertainty rather than 'fake' certainty. For example, I actually would rather have no review than the shit that Engadget and CNET post up, they don't focus on what I find important and frankly, apart from the performance aspect of it I could easily find out the same as what they post from a few minutes handling the phone at a store.

Why do you keep using shit sites like Engadget, CNET, or the Verge for comparisons to Anandtech when there are by far better sites?

Anandtech also has their "fake" certainty. See their hotspot tests when they compare the phone that they're reviewing in that particular review to a majority of phones released 2-3 years ago.
Anandtech is far from perfect in regards to the smartphone world.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Why do you keep using shit sites like Engadget, CNET, or the Verge for comparisons to Anandtech when there are by far better sites?

Anandtech also has their "fake" certainty. See their hotspot tests when they compare the phone that they're reviewing in that particular review to a majority of phones released 2-3 years ago.
Anandtech is far from perfect in regards to the smartphone world.

Because they're what comes up when you Google "xyz phone review". It's not like I avoid good sites on purpose, it's just that apart from Anandtech, and possibly the newly discovered GSMArena, I just haven't found any.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

its all about the iPhone

im sure that one'll be glowing. black, white and flat? sounds like the original mac interface from 1985...

 

[OBLAMA2009]

theyre probably just too busy with their xphone review