I am in the stages of buying a new mobo and CPU. I dont want to break forum rules by discussing the two, but I would like to find unbiased info about the advantages and dis-advantages of each. Anyone?...
Where is AMD vs. Intel allowed?
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What is your Budget?
What do you plan on doing with the PC?
Are you comfortable with Overclocking?
What do you plan on doing with the PC?
Are you comfortable with Overclocking?
I do want to overclock. I play games (hl2 
). Lots of excel. Multimedia- music, dvds. I know that Pentium will cost more. I dont understand why AMD calls their 2.2 ghz chip a 3200+. Is that equal to Intel's 2.2 ghz chip ???
). Lots of excel. Multimedia- music, dvds. I know that Pentium will cost more. I dont understand why AMD calls their 2.2 ghz chip a 3200+. Is that equal to Intel's 2.2 ghz chip ???
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You mean is it equal to Intel's 3.2GHz chip? It's not, if that's what you're asking. It WOULD mop the floor with a 2.2GHz P4, but that's not really a good comparison anyway. There are so many differences between the 2 chips that listing them would take forever.
What are you planning to do with your computer? What is your budget and what components do you need?
There are so many differences between the 2 chips that listing them would take forever.What are you planning to do with your computer? What is your budget and what components do you need?
For the most part, AMD's rating scale matched up with Intel's quite nicely until Intel released the 2.4GHz and everything past that. As a matter of fact, a 1700+ AMD Athlon would blow away a 1.7GHz Pentium 4, and a 2000+ AMD Athlon would blow away a 2.0GHz Pentium 4. Not the case anymore, the 3200+ Athlon should be matched up with ~2.8 - 3.0GHz Pentium 4, and that might even be generous for AMD. If you're comfortable with overclocking, I'd get an NFORCE 2 motherboard with either a 1700+ Tbred-B, 2100+ Tbred-B, or a 2500+ Barton. If you're not comfortable with overclocking.. well I still might actually get an AMD, but probably a 2600+ or 2800+. If you're not comfortable with overclocking AND have a lot of money to spend, get a 2.6GHz or higher Pentium 4.
I think MrEgo is right depending on your budget. I would go to New egg and look at the following.
NForce2 Motherboard. Any will do just see what options you want.
As for CPU read the customer reviews on the chip. Also be sure to check if the retail chip is around the same price. Retail CPU's come with a much better warranty and may only cost you 2-3 dollars more.
1700+ Tbred-B (Avg Overclock 2400-2700)
2100+ Tbred-B (Avg Overclock 2700 and Up)
2500+ Barton (Avg Overclock 3000-3200 and up)
On these overclocks I am basing them off default core voltage nothing massive.
Chances are you will need some ram. Ram is crucial to how far you will overclock. I would recommend a NAME BRAND (NO HOUSE BRANDS) memory that is PC-3200 rated. You dont need anything serious like Corsair XMS but better ram will be better in the long run. If your going on the cheep look for SAMSUNG PC-3200. But make sure its really SAMSUNG and not listed as SAMSUNG OR MAJOR BRAND on a website.
CPU Coolers I would just get a Speeze 6.00 one from New egg Its a good cooler that is quiet and works well. The one with 139+ user reviews. If your confused I will try to find you the model number.
Hope this helps.
Anyone from the Intel camp want to recommend a few. Lets not bash each others camp.
NForce2 Motherboard. Any will do just see what options you want.
As for CPU read the customer reviews on the chip. Also be sure to check if the retail chip is around the same price. Retail CPU's come with a much better warranty and may only cost you 2-3 dollars more.
1700+ Tbred-B (Avg Overclock 2400-2700)
2100+ Tbred-B (Avg Overclock 2700 and Up)
2500+ Barton (Avg Overclock 3000-3200 and up)
On these overclocks I am basing them off default core voltage nothing massive.
Chances are you will need some ram. Ram is crucial to how far you will overclock. I would recommend a NAME BRAND (NO HOUSE BRANDS) memory that is PC-3200 rated. You dont need anything serious like Corsair XMS but better ram will be better in the long run. If your going on the cheep look for SAMSUNG PC-3200. But make sure its really SAMSUNG and not listed as SAMSUNG OR MAJOR BRAND on a website.
CPU Coolers I would just get a Speeze 6.00 one from New egg Its a good cooler that is quiet and works well. The one with 139+ user reviews. If your confused I will try to find you the model number.
Hope this helps.
Anyone from the Intel camp want to recommend a few. Lets not bash each others camp.
It's a simple as this: AMD offers a better price/performance ratio, and Intel is better at video encoding.
You have all been very helpful. Thanks to MrEgo for the comparos. The two options I have been mulling over have been either the barton 2500 OC'd to 3200, or a pentium 2.4 800mhz. From what I am gathering, those two will probably perform pretty close, but i will save some cheese going for the barton. Any more comments about these chips will be greatly appreciated. Until then its off to the mobo forum.... :beer: :beer: for everyone
The P4C's are better at everything right now not just video encoding. And price/performace is a thing of the past unless you think ~50 is a big difference.
OP you should consider the 2.4C with a decent 865/875 board and OC it easily to 3gig. I have 3 and too of them are right at 3.4gig the other one is limeted to the mb to 3gig. There isn't an AMD chip out there in this price range that can touch a 2.4C oc'd.
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I was originally leaning toward the 2.4, it seams that my gut decision is being reinforced. Thank you all...
I second that!!! however the Athlon64 will take over gaming title and some other areas, but from initial reviews I have seen INtel should still lead in a lot of multimedia apps.
THe 2.4C is the best chip out there right now without a doubt. It all comes down to budget more than anything though. A 2500 BArton is like 90 bucks and a 2.4 is like 175. The 2.4 is better but both OC well and both are great processors. My choice would be the barton on the grounds that it is cheaper but if i had more money i would take the 2.4 in a second.
Budget Provided.
I must agree with the Intel camp for 70.00 more I dont think you can beat a P4 2.4C overclocked to the 3.2-3.4Ghz realm. This over the Athlon 2500 if you have the budget.
If not then save the 70.00 and get the Athlon 2500 should overclock to 3200+ which is more like a P4 at 2.8Ghz. You might even be able to overclock around 3400+ putting you around a P4 3.0Ghz.
If money is no object then an Opteron not only for what it gives you today in 32 bit apps but what it will give you later this year when 64 bit starts to take off.
I must agree with the Intel camp for 70.00 more I dont think you can beat a P4 2.4C overclocked to the 3.2-3.4Ghz realm. This over the Athlon 2500 if you have the budget.
If not then save the 70.00 and get the Athlon 2500 should overclock to 3200+ which is more like a P4 at 2.8Ghz. You might even be able to overclock around 3400+ putting you around a P4 3.0Ghz.
If money is no object then an Opteron not only for what it gives you today in 32 bit apps but what it will give you later this year when 64 bit starts to take off.
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