Where is all the hub-bub?

[Wheezer]

There was all this moaning and crying over Tookie Williams from celebrities and the anti-capital punishment crowd. Where was the outrage over this guys execution?

I have been watching the news looking for any sign of the Mike Ferrell and his crowd and thier outrage at this "barbaric" form of punishement, guess when it's an old white guy confined to a wheel chair, it's not the "in" thing to do.

Oldest inmate executed

 

[OrganizedChaos]

its right up there with the outrage over executing innocents, nutcases, 60- IQs, and kids.

 

[dahunan]

He should have put on some shoe polish

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: dahunan
He should have put on some shoe polish

Mike Farrell doesn't care about white people...

 

[AragornTK]

money says if Bush was ever convicted of "murder" by sending troops over seas, the crowd that wants the death sentence abolished would try to kill Bush themselves

 

[sweetpea70512]

Why no hub-bub? H

e wouldn't have been the oldest executed if the State executed him decades ago when they should of.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Tookie was a celebrity, and therefore more important.

Human nature I suppose, and not a good side of it. It's akin to those who get irate about an American getting killed because killing is wrong, then don'[t really care when we kill a hundred who would never have harmed us because it's us who do it.

One universal constant is that most people throw out their standards to justify something if they have a dog in that particular fight.

 

[RichardE]

He should have started a organization responsoble for hundreds of killing......and wrote some children books, his fault.

 

[Jhhnn]

It just didn't get a lot of press coverage.

Given his condition and circumstances, it was almost a mercy killing, anyway...

 

[Genx87]

The guy was white.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Genx87
The guy was white.

QFT

 

[BlancoNino]

Tookie was able to raise the support of celebrities to call foul on the State of California and Gov. Schwarzenegger. The liberals seized the opportunity. It couldn't happen this time.

 

[tommywishbone]

People realized that taking a blind & deaf 77 year old man and lifting him on to his execution bed, because he was in a wheelchair and could not walk or climb onto the bed by himself, was the crowning acheivement of 21st century America civilization. No one dared to stop such a touching & glorious moment in history... therefore there were no protest.

I'll walk a little taller today knowing that I was somehow involved, in some little way, with this compassionate, noble act.

 

[Genx87]

I do find it funny they revived him from a heart attack in Sept. They should really put a DNR clause in there.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
People realized that taking a blind & deaf 77 year old man and lifting him on to his execution bed, because he was in a wheelchair and could not walk or climb onto the bed by himself, was the crowning acheivement of 21st century America civilization. No one dared to stop such a touching & glorious moment in history... therefore there were no protest.

I'll walk a little taller today knowing that I was somehow involved, in some little way, with this compassionate, noble act.

Me too! (withou the sarcasm)
This geezer dodged the needle for decades through endless appeals, but he was a remorseless murderer.

"Allen went to prison for having his teenage son's 17-year-old girlfriend murdered for fear she would tell police about a grocery-store burglary. While behind bars, he tried to have witnesses in the case wiped out, prosecutors said. He was sentenced to death in 1982 for hiring a hit man who killed a witness and two bystanders."

Enjoy your dirt nap, Allen!

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

You have to remember that the anti-death penalty crowd promotes the idea of confining a murderer for life under the rationale that a criminal in prison for life is no more dangerous than one who is dead.

The problem here is that this man's death sentence came as a result of murders he orchestrated while he was in prison, serving a life sentence for another murder.

So defending this guy doesn't further their cause. For Farrell and the rest of them it's better for their cause to just let this one quietly expire. If they got forced into a debate on this particular murderer and took the stand that a life sentence is enough to protect the public from the worst of the worst... they would get pwn3d.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Genx87
The guy was white.

... and he never pretended to "find God" and change his ways.

Though from what I've read Tookie never actually admitted to the murders he committed, or expressed any remorse for laughing while he shotgunned his victims. He spent years appealing the facts before switching to the "I've changed" clemency dodge.

Enjoy your dirt nap too (kie).

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Genx87
The guy was white.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Genx87
The guy was white.

Hey Zendari:

When are you going to return to this thread???

 

[maddogchen]

it says right in the article why this case has generated less attention. of did you not read your own article?

Tookie's case was about whether people on death row can redeem themselves and make amends for their crimes. Tookie, a founder of a gang, spent time in jail writing children's books about the dangers of gangs. And trying to tell them not to end up like him.

This guy spent time in jail masterminding the murders of three more people.

 

[smack Down]

Should have happened 22 years ago.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm glad they executed this guy and I'm glad they executed Stanley Williams.

They were both guilty, they were both given the death penalty and they both deserved to die.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
People realized that taking a blind & deaf 77 year old man and lifting him on to his execution bed, because he was in a wheelchair and could not walk or climb onto the bed by himself, was the crowning acheivement of 21st century America civilization. No one dared to stop such a touching & glorious moment in history... therefore there were no protest.

I'll walk a little taller today knowing that I was somehow involved, in some little way, with this compassionate, noble act.

Except that he wasn't deaf, he wasn't blind and he didn't need to be lifted onto the table.

Don't believe everything you read there genius.

 

[tommywishbone]

"genius"? "genius"? Over 16,000 post... 16,000!! And the best condesending remark you offer is... genius.

I'm glad to hear the 77 year old man was able to climb onto his execution table by himself. Thanks for the information nerd.

 

[Jhhnn]

Amazing that people will comment w/o even reading the linked article-

"Allen, who was blind and mostly deaf, suffered from diabetes and had a nearly fatal heart attack in September only to be revived and returned to death row, was assisted into the death chamber by four large correctional officers and lifted out of his wheelchair."

Part of it is that Tookie was extremely intelligent and articulate, apparently a changed man, and that he had become a positve force in the efforts against gang violence... things that really couldn't be said about Allen...

Maybe we should bring back the public execution methods of Eliabethan England for all the DP advocates. For treason, the perp was publically half-hanged, castrated, disemboweled, and then drawn and quartered, finally beheaded and the chunks sent to the corners of the kingdom... Y'all could have a few beers, stand around and scream "Blood, Blood, Blood!" at the top of yours lungs for a rollicking good time...