Where does the misconception come from that European cities are safe?

[Riprorin]

I was reading an interesting article in the Financial Times on the plane last week regarding gun control in England.

According to the article, you're six times more likely to get mugged in London than NYC.

My European wife and I were in London last October. While walking arond central London on a Friday night, we saw several people who had been assaulted and my wife got a few cat call from drunked idiots. Yet, when I wanted to stop at a restaurant at 11 pm, she told me to go ahead and she'd go back to the hotel by herself. I protested and she assured me what a safe city London was and that she would be fine. Obviously, I didn't let her go back alone.

Where do people get this notion that Europe is so safe?

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Where do people get this notion that Europe is so safe?

Europeans?

 

[Scipionix]

Yeah, actually crime rates are now higher in most W. European countries than they are here. I will try to find an article...

update: article-y

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Because European's are enlightened, intelligent, peaceful people.
And American's are retarded, violent monkeys.

You must remember this general rule:

Everything American: Bad
Everything European: Good.

 

[Ameesh]

Europes only good for vacations not living.

 

[BlueApple]

Because Americans are stupid?










Well, I think it comes from the fact that 1) whenever on vacation, you let your guard down and relax, and b) they have a higher petty(or street) crom rate compared to American cities, yet have a much lower murder rate.

 

[Riprorin]

The point of the article was how retarded England's laws are regarding not only guns, but any offensive weapon. You're basically not allowed to protect yourself. Consequently, break in while the residents are home represents something like 30% of all home robberies. In the US, it's quite rare since you run the risk of staring down the nozzle of a gun.

There was an interesting story about a farmer who had been burglarized 7 times. He finally got fed up and shot two burglers with a shot gun when they entered his home. One died and one was wounded. The wounded guy is out while the farmer is rotting in jail and likely will be for quite sometime.

 

[BlueApple]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
The point of the article was how retarded England's laws are regarding not only guns, but any offensive weapon. You're basically not allowed to protect yourself. Consequently, break in while the residents are home represents something like 30% of all home robberies. In the US, it's quite rare since you run the risk of staring down the nozzle of a gun.

I guess it is hard for me to relate to the need to protect yourself since living in a pretty well prosperous, and in a city environment, not only is response time for an emergency less than 2 minutes for fire and 5 for cops, but the only real large quantity of firearms are in gangs, which you don?t worry about since they have no need or want to injury someone that isn?t a gang member.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: BlueAppleI guess it is hard for me to relate to the need to protect yourself since living in a pretty well prosperous, and in a city environment, not only is response time for an emergency less than 2 minutes for fire and 5 for cops, but the only real large quantity of firearms are in gangs, which you don?t worry about since they have no need or want to injury someone that isn?t a gang member.

1. Self-defense is not a "need," it is a right.
2. I think you should check those response times. They seem way too low. Try Manhattan at 5pm on Friday, for example.

 

[Ultima]

I dunno, maybe its cause the downtowns of european cities (and canadian cities too ) aren't rotting cesspools like some american cities' downtowns are (and why is this?). Personally, my grandma used to live in Europe and has told me that the cities there can be pretty dangerous, so maybe their downtowns ARE rotting cesspolls even if they look all nice and artfully. I think Canada has the safest cities, our downtowns aren't hollowed out shells (they are quite livable actually) AND they're safe

 

[Amused]

Because pussyfied Euros think thay're safe as long as they survive. It doesn't matter that they're robbed, burgeled, Raped and assaulted more than we, but gawd forbid someone offs someone.

This kind of explains how Hitler tap danced accross the place so easily, huh?



<--- ducking the rotten euro fruit being thrown at him.

 

[Riprorin]

I dunno, maybe its cause the downtowns of european cities (and canadian cities too ) aren't rotting cesspools like some american cities' downtowns are (and why is this?). Personally, my grandma used to live in Europe and has told me that the cities there can be pretty dangerous, so maybe their downtowns ARE rotting cesspolls even if they look all nice and artfully. I think Canada has the safest cities, our downtowns aren't hollowed out shells (they are quite livable actually) AND they're safe

In European cities, the rotting cespools are on the outskirts. Outside of Paris, the are "no-go zones" where police and fire fighters won't venture in.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Because pussyfied Euros think thay're safe as long as they survive. It doesn't matter that they're robbed, burgeled, Raped and assaulted more than we, but gawd forbid someone offs someone.

This kind of explains how Hitler tapped danced accross the place so easily, huh?



<--- ducking the rotten euro fruit being thrown at him.

Oh yeah, the produce in most NW European cities is expensive and bloody tasteless

 

[Huma]

A few friends of mine living in amsterdam have encountered more crime (burglaries, and pick pocketing) than they ever had back home in canada.

quite a surprise for me.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Huma
A few friends of mine living in amsterdam have encountered more crime (burglaries, and pick pocketing) than they ever had back home in canada.

quite a surprise for me.

Yep, the huge increase in crime rates in most western European countries is not something our pro-gun control press wants you to hear. It nullifies their long held argument that taking guns from citizens and forcing them to rely on the state for protection makes them more secure.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Yep, the huge increase in crime rates in most western European countries is not something our pro-gun control press wants you to hear. It nullifies their long held argument that taking guns from citizens and forcing them to rely on the state for protection makes them more secure.

They also don't want you to know that there is an inverse correlation between average sentences of incarcerated criminals and the crime rate. Wow, ya mean putting criminals in prison reduces crime?????? no WAY!

 

[ElFenix]

only singapore is safe from crime. but there you're not safe from the government.

 

[AT]

This is going get nasty real quick once us Euros wake up.

In one thread we have:
- US vs. Europe
- gun control
- crime rate
- self-defense
- Canada
This should be fun.

We are still missing death penalty and then we are all set.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: AT
This is going get nasty real quick once us Euros wake up.

In one thread we have:
- US vs. Europe
- gun control
- crime rate
- self-defense
- Canada
This should be fun.

We are still missing death penalty and then we are all set.

And religion

 

[A5]

Originally posted by: Ultima
I dunno, maybe its cause the downtowns of european cities (and canadian cities too ) aren't rotting cesspools like some american cities' downtowns are (and why is this?). Personally, my grandma used to live in Europe and has told me that the cities there can be pretty dangerous, so maybe their downtowns ARE rotting cesspolls even if they look all nice and artfully. I think Canada has the safest cities, our downtowns aren't hollowed out shells (they are quite livable actually) AND they're safe

I suppose you've only been to like Detroit or something...there are some US cities with beautiful downtown areas. (Unless by 'downtown' you mean 'ghetto', which is totally different...)

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: AT
This is going get nasty real quick once us Euros wake up.

In one thread we have:
- US vs. Europe
- gun control
- crime rate
- self-defense
- Canada
This should be fun.

We are still missing death penalty and then we are all set.

And religion

Throw abortion into the mix, and we are in for a fun filled debate!

 

[Nemesis77]

Depends on the crime. In some categories, US cities might be safer than some European cities. But in others, it's the other way around. For example homicidies. Highest homicide-rate in Europe was in Sweden: 1.94 homicides per 100.000 people. Germany had the lowest: 1.28. In USA, that figure is 6.26, ALOT higher than in Europe (source).

As to the self-defence. Yeah, it does suck here. You are allowed to defend yourself (naturally), but it is pretty strict. That is one area I wish we could be more like USA.

EDIT: spelling

 

[Nefrodite]

japans pretty safe.. they are too busy watching anime, playing violent or sickenly cute video games, or singing badly at bars

 

[tk149]

A few years ago, I went to Spain for a cruise. I stayed two days/one night in Barcelona. In those two days, I was offered drugs, a prostitute, and saw a woman scream after a guy stole her purse. I didn't see the robber, but if she had reacted more quickly (she was stupid), I would have, since I was in the same room. My father got ripped off by a currency exchange. The cruise ship docked at several mediterranean ports. Along the way, after almost every port, we'd hear stories about passengers getting mugged. The cruise director told us to be more careful.

I've lived in in or near Chicago almost all my life. I've never witnessed a crime, or been offered drugs or prostitutes here.

BTW, I saw something on the news that said that the murder rate in Russia and Ukraine is super way high. Apparently, their organized crime is running amok.

 

[freegeekss]

Riprorin

every other day you start one of your bs threads to start a fight with the non-us (read European and/or canadian) members of this forum. you have some weird fixation against europeans. we already know from your previous post and threads that you are convinced that the USA is the greatest thing in the galaxy. we do not need confirmation every other day about your strange obsession.

go seek some medical attention -- you clearly need it