Where does the e6750 stand today?

[severus]

December 2007 I threw this PC together.
E6750 @ 3.4ghz (stock cooler!)
ABIT IP35-E
2gb G.Skill
750gb Seagate
8800GT

Fast-forward almost two years later and all I've changed is the 8800gt to a HD4870 1gb. But I've been wondering, with all of intels latest offerings, where exactly does the e6750 stand today? When I bought it it was simply the best for my dollar. Now with this massive influx of quad and high cache dual cores is the e6750 still considered a high performer?

 

[alyarb]

it's still a performer. just not the best overclocker or per-clock anymore. there are some architectural tweaks the 45nm chips benefit from, they are more power efficient and better overclockers, but it doesn't make sense for you to spend $150 on a new dual core just so you can have this 5% per-clock increase and a 4 GHz oc. since you're at 3.4GHz now, I would consider a dual-to-dual upgrade a waste of money. you look like a single-gpu gamer so i would wait for lynnfield at the end of the year.

 

[severus]

I've been waiting to see what i5 will bring to the table, however the i7 is also dropping in price, Microcenter has a nice sale on them. It's a shame ABIT doesn't produce motherboards anymore because they would have gotten my business for an x58..

 

[alyarb]

if you can get a bloomfield system at microcenter prices with a sub-$200 motherboard, i7 prices today will be very competitive with i5 prices months from now.

 

[aigomorla]

u have a 65nm C2D

So:

65nm C2D -> 45nm C2D -> i3 -> i5 -> i7

i3 i5 i7 being current tech.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Originally posted by: alyarb
it's still a performer. just not the best overclocker or per-clock anymore. there are some architectural tweaks the 45nm chips benefit from, they are more power efficient and better overclockers, but it doesn't make sense for you to spend $150 on a new dual core just so you can have this 5% per-clock increase and a 4 GHz oc. since you're at 3.4GHz now, I would consider a dual-to-dual upgrade a waste of money. you look like a single-gpu gamer so i would wait for lynnfield at the end of the year.

Only to qualify the remark: It's more a matter of want versus need.

There was a time when I'd squeeze 3 to 5 years out of a computer system.

I have friends who upgraded to C2D when Conroe first appeared; others who should've chosen an Intel C2D instead of an AMD dual-core, but didn't and are nevertheless satisfied. They're not upgrading any time soon. My brother and his wife have Northwood P4's I built for them in 2003 and 2004, and they're not ready to spend more money.

If you have the money and it's a "priority" to be close to the bleeding edge, you'll do what you want to do.

But as I mentioned in another post, a lot of people were still running 32-bit XP last year (including me), and the changeover to a 64-bit OS -- VISTA or Windows-7 64-bit versions -- really wrings extra life out of a last-gen system.

 

[severus]

I too must admit that I'm running 32bit Windows XP. I may attempt 64 bit XP in the future. I tried vista at a friends home and said never again. I don't like anything about it. Windows 7 however is a different story. I also was running a Northwood P4 HT until 2007 (from 2003!) but before that system I had built another Northwood (533fsb) the year prior and an Athlon xp the year prior to that. It seems like I'm getting the mod bug again.

 

[Lean L]

Well it ranks 137 on this list of benchmarks.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

With the OC, it ranks higher.

 

[daw123]

Originally posted by: iamanidiot
Well it ranks 137 on this list of benchmarks.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

With the OC, it ranks higher.

Sorry to thread-hijack but the what the hell is an "Intel 000 @ 3.20GHz"? I've never heard of that processor (ranked number 2).

 

[Lean L]

no such processor, there's only one sample of that processor in the benchmark. It means someone hacked their system so it says 000.

 

[daw123]

Originally posted by: iamanidiot
no such processor, there's only one sample of that processor in the benchmark. It means someone hacked their system so it says 000.

That makes sense. Thanks.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Originally posted by: severus
I too must admit that I'm running 32bit Windows XP. I may attempt 64 bit XP in the future. I tried vista at a friends home and said never again. I don't like anything about it. Windows 7 however is a different story. I also was running a Northwood P4 HT until 2007 (from 2003!) but before that system I had built another Northwood (533fsb) the year prior and an Athlon xp the year prior to that. It seems like I'm getting the mod bug again.

Not precisely on topic, but I wanted to respond to your remarks on VISTA.

Some have said that it is "bloaty." Maybe. But I didn't notice that much less memory-usage with the Windows 7 64-bit RC1 I have running in a barebones chassis. I could say I'm "impressed" with the forthcoming OS, but then again, VISTA has been refined through two service packs now.

With XP 64, there is a lack -- or was a lack -- of driver support. People -- including me -- get used to an interface, or get peevish when things have been rearranged. But it's not much of an adjustment.

Best-Buy was offering "pre-sale" retail-box Windows 7 this month for something just in excess of $50. I heard other rumors that MS was going to sell Windows 7 as a "subscription" -- an idea for which I'm not at all eager.

Then, there's the story about some "test" that was conducted somewhere in the Southwest -- maybe Arizona. Maybe it was called "the Mojave Project" -- I just don't rightly remember. They pulled together a bunch of end-users, didn't tell them they were going to test VISTA, and the results were mostly positive.

But the damage had been done to VISTA with the initial pre-service-pack release. By the time SP1 was available, too many people were disgusted, and the bad news spread like wild-fire. Certainly, I was one of those who hung back in caution.

Even so, I sprung for a second OEM VISTA -- knowing full-well the Best-Buy offering. When I upgrade to Windows 7, it will probably be at a time when more information (more than my RC1 testing experience) is in.

But I don't think I shall ever return to use of a 32-bit operating system. And that's all about hardware potential and how the OS can make it available. Shoot! I don't even see a need to keep my C2Q over-clocked!

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: daw123

Originally posted by: iamanidiot
Well it ranks 137 on this list of benchmarks.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

With the OC, it ranks higher.

Sorry to thread-hijack but the what the hell is an "Intel 000 @ 3.20GHz"? I've never heard of that processor (ranked number 2).

usually the result when cpu-z can not find the processor. That processor is most likely a gainestown class processor with 2x QPI.

Unless ur like me, and gets to play with ES chips b4 they even hit retail, you'll never see one like that tho, unless u use a very very old CPU-Z on a new processor.

Originally posted by: iamanidiot
no such processor, there's only one sample of that processor in the benchmark. It means someone hacked their system so it says 000.

Oh really?

You think or you know this as fact? because this cpu-z picture says your wrong.

3.2Ghz would mean that processor is a W5580 class.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...73/aigomorla/Final.jpg

 

[Lean L]

I said there's no such processor as a 000.

 

[daw123]

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck

Originally posted by: severus
I too must admit that I'm running 32bit Windows XP. I may attempt 64 bit XP in the future. I tried vista at a friends home and said never again. I don't like anything about it. Windows 7 however is a different story. I also was running a Northwood P4 HT until 2007 (from 2003!) but before that system I had built another Northwood (533fsb) the year prior and an Athlon xp the year prior to that. It seems like I'm getting the mod bug again.

Not precisely on topic, but I wanted to respond to your remarks on VISTA.

Some have said that it is "bloaty." Maybe. But I didn't notice that much less memory-usage with the Windows 7 64-bit RC1 I have running in a barebones chassis. I could say I'm "impressed" with the forthcoming OS, but then again, VISTA has been refined through two service packs now.

With XP 64, there is a lack -- or was a lack -- of driver support. People -- including me -- get used to an interface, or get peevish when things have been rearranged. But it's not much of an adjustment.

Best-Buy was offering "pre-sale" retail-box Windows 7 this month for something just in excess of $50. I heard other rumors that MS was going to sell Windows 7 as a "subscription" -- an idea for which I'm not at all eager.

Then, there's the story about some "test" that was conducted somewhere in the Southwest -- maybe Arizona. Maybe it was called "the Mojave Project" -- I just don't rightly remember. They pulled together a bunch of end-users, didn't tell them they were going to test VISTA, and the results were mostly positive.

But the damage had been done to VISTA with the initial pre-service-pack release. By the time SP1 was available, too many people were disgusted, and the bad news spread like wild-fire. Certainly, I was one of those who hung back in caution.

Even so, I sprung for a second OEM VISTA -- knowing full-well the Best-Buy offering. When I upgrade to Windows 7, it will probably be at a time when more information (more than my RC1 testing experience) is in.

But I don't think I shall ever return to use of a 32-bit operating system. And that's all about hardware potential and how the OS can make it available. Shoot! I don't even see a need to keep my C2Q over-clocked!

My experiences of Vista versus Win 7 RC are that Win 7 seems quite a bit more refined, for lack of a better word.

I never bothered purchasing Vista for myself, but I've used plenty of other computers, which do. I just never liked it.

Back on topic:

Originally posted by: severus
I've been waiting to see what i5 will bring to the table, however the i7 is also dropping in price, Microcenter has a nice sale on them. It's a shame ABIT doesn't produce motherboards anymore because they would have gotten my business for an x58..

There is a very good chance (if the articles on the 'Net are to be believed) that the I7 line-up is going to streamlined to the high end (and very expensive) CPUs only. If you wait too long it could be that you miss the I7 920 bandwagon. It's all conjecture at the moment, but there's a chance that it may happen.

Then again, by the time that this happens, I5 may be out.

I just can't understand where the I5 is going to fit in to the Intel product line from a pricing standpoint; its suggested that I5 CPUs are not going to be that much cheaper than the I7 920 / 950 and lets face it the X58 MBs are coming down in price (along with triple channel DDR3 RAM). I can't see where these big savings are going to be, unless I'm missing something.

http://www.tomshardware.com/ne...e-i5-nehalem,7893.html

 

[evolucion8]

Your CPU is standing great today, if you want to upgrade, then get a cheap Q9550 like that, doing a system overhaul may give you more performance, but also will cost you more than the performance difference that you will notice if you upgrade from the Q9550.