Where does it say in the Koran....

[Bite]

Where does it say in the Koran, "If liberated, loot the hell out of your country. Be sure to ransack museums and every hospital you can find. Vandalize everything you can get your hands on. Jacking at gunpoint is especially encouraged. Then, after you have totally trashed your country, blame your liberators because, after all, you are certainly not responsible for your own acts."

Iraq is 97% Muslim. Does the Koran permit them to go psycho once the repressive regime is no more?

Help me understand how 'Coalition forces' are responsible for every single illegal, illicit, immoral and unethical act committed by every single Iraqi across the entire country from now until Doomsday....

 

[Grey]

So whenever there is a riot in the US, it must be because the Bible says to loot and ransack your neigbors right?

 

[jasonroehm]

Looting has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with the lack of a civil authority to tell you "you can't do that, and if you do, you will be punished." The same thing would happen in America, for sure (example: any major riot, like Los Angeles, 1992). It doesn't matter what faith the people follow; you could say, Americans are XX% Christian, and it says nowhere in the Bible to go insane and steal everything, but I guarantee you that if a situation similar to the one in Iraq now presented itself in America, you would have many of the same issues. Religion doesn't enter into it. All adults know better than to loot, vandalize, etc., but given the opportunity to do so with no repurcussions, morals go out the window.

I'm not trying to say that it's the fault of coalition forces that the Iraqis are rioting, though. Their mission is to remove the Iraqi regime, not to keep civilians under control. There needs to be some sort of police force installed to keep a reasonable semblance of peace until the military operation is in a more complete state.

 

[Jmman]

A couple of comments about this Iraq situation. The average Iraqi makes $200 a year!! They live in conditions that make an Ethopian or Somalian look like a king. Millions of Iraqis have died from starvation, while Saddam has 78 palaces worth probably about 25-50 billion dollars. Saddam by many accounts is the richest man in the world. Now if you lived in abject poverty while your leader amassed the greatest fortune in the world, wouldn't you be a little bitter and loot those places if you were in the same situation?

Furthermore, we are still fighting in this conflict. I think the more important role has to be to fight and prosecute this war until it is finished. With 22 million Iraqi's and 250,000 troops, it is a daunting task to try and police a whole country anyway.....

 

[bentwookie]

another point is they are looting government targets..

 

[PClark99]

Originally posted by: bentwookie
another point is they are looting government targets..

Actually, thats not entirely correct, they are also targeting businesses, schools, any location that has anything of value. I got that from the O'Reilly Factor on Foxnews.

 

[Mandrill]

I can understand the looting and vandalism of the Government buildings and the rulling parties houses etc, but I cannot understand the looting of private business, hospitals, and least of all museums. Why demolish the places that can save you (hospitals), serve you (businesses), and places that contain important artifacts of your culture. I just don't get it.

The same thing happened during the LA riots. The rioters burned, looted, and robbed the businesses in their own neighborhood. If you burn down your local grocery store, where are you going to buy food from? Then they got mad when said businesses wouldn't rebuild in the neighborhood.

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Bite
Where does it say in the Koran, "If liberated, loot the hell out of your country. Be sure to ransack museums and every hospital you can find. Vandalize everything you can get your hands on. Jacking at gunpoint is especially encouraged. Then, after you have totally trashed your country, blame your liberators because, after all, you are certainly not responsible for your own acts."

Iraq is 97% Muslim. Does the Koran permit them to go psycho once the repressive regime is no more?

Help me understand how 'Coalition forces' are responsible for every single illegal, illicit, immoral and unethical act committed by every single Iraqi across the entire country from now until Doomsday....

Where in the Koran does it state to crash airplanes into the World Trade Center towers? It seems like the Koran can be used (or twised) in any manner that a Muslim desires.

Here's a little pathetic story that recently happened in the community where our friends live.

- A boy went over to play with a neighborhood child. The mother of the child was Muslim and tried to tell the neighbor boy that there was no such thing as Christmas and Easter. The boy was disturbed because it contradicted his beliefs. The boy then went home and told his mother. The mother then paid the Muslim mother a visit - and confronted her by asking her why she was denouncing christianity. The mother then left after saying what she had to say. The Muslim mother then called the police on the christain mother and reported her for being abusive. WTF?? Stay tuned ... I'm sure it's not over yet.

 

[bentwookie]

Originally posted by: Mandrill
I can understand the looting and vandalism of the Government buildings and the rulling parties houses etc, but I cannot understand the looting of private business, hospitals, and least of all museums. Why demolish the places that can save you (hospitals), serve you (businesses), and places that contain important artifacts of your culture. I just don't get it.

The same thing happened during the LA riots. The rioters burned, looted, and robbed the businesses in their own neighborhood. If you burn down your local grocery store, where are you going to buy food from? Then they got mad when said businesses wouldn't rebuild in the neighborhood.

if the businesses were tailored to iraqi officers I can understand...we are not there so we don't really know..The hospitol looting was probably the least understood though...

 

[Tripleshot]

Islam's beliefs in Muhhamad as being a prophet of God is confusing at best to me. Muhaamed was run out of Mecca and fled to Meddina where he raided trade caravans between the two cities to support his twisted sense of holy justice. Being a thief and a liar may be acceptable if the one you look to as prophet has got the green light from God to do so.

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

Contrast that with the life of Moses.

Draw your own conclusions. I've made mine.

 

[her209]

Poor hungry people deserve to be jailed.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Ari, Cheney, and Rumsfeld started that BS about the looting was targeted. The truth is that looting started in abandoned government buildings but once it became apparent their was ZERO civilian authority people decided it was buffet day on other people's property.

 

[Conky]

I don't know why people are surprised about the looting. It must be terribly frustrating to eke out a living with an average pay of $2500 per household while watching a criminal build 48 multi-million-dollar Palaces and put up hundreds of statues of himself.

I would be joining them if I was living there.

Blaming it on religion is a cheap shot.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

I bet Jesus was quite the little hellraiser no pun intended. Why do you think so many years of his life were left unaccounted for?

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Jmman
The average Iraqi makes $200 a year!

I make more than that and I don't even have a job!

 

[Siddhartha]

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[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Islam's beliefs in Muhhamad as being a prophet of God is confusing at best to me. Muhaamed was run out of Mecca and fled to Meddina where he raided trade caravans between the two cities to support his twisted sense of holy justice. Being a thief and a liar may be acceptable if the one you look to as prophet has got the green light from God to do so.

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

Contrast that with the life of Moses.

Draw your own conclusions. I've made mine.

I guess the same mind set that allowed all those folks to follow Jim Jones down to their eventual death encourages the muslim to follow Muhhamad and me to follow my Christian beliefs.

 

[ConantheBarbarian]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Islam's beliefs in Muhhamad as being a prophet of God is confusing at best to me. Muhaamed was run out of Mecca and fled to Meddina where he raided trade caravans between the two cities to support his twisted sense of holy justice. Being a thief and a liar may be acceptable if the one you look to as prophet has got the green light from God to do so.

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

Contrast that with the life of Moses.

Draw your own conclusions. I've made mine.

Please provide sources where Prophet Mohammad PBUH did these acts as you described. You forgot the traitorous jews that betrayed him and joined the meccans that tried to kill him and his the whole viallage. Next time STFU and keep your twisted thoughts to yourself.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: ConantheBarbarian

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Islam's beliefs in Muhhamad as being a prophet of God is confusing at best to me. Muhaamed was run out of Mecca and fled to Meddina where he raided trade caravans between the two cities to support his twisted sense of holy justice. Being a thief and a liar may be acceptable if the one you look to as prophet has got the green light from God to do so.

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

Contrast that with the life of Moses.

Draw your own conclusions. I've made mine.

Please provide sources where Prophet Mohammad PBUH did these acts as you described. You forgot the traitorous jews that betrayed him and joined the meccans that tried to kill him and his the whole viallage. Next time STFU and keep your twisted thoughts to yourself.

Does it bother you that Mohammed started his cult 600 years ago?

Islam is a cult and nothing less. Not even a true religion. Their faith is based on one prophet and the twisting of his teachings. I study religions and modern Islam is a cult.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Bite
Where does it say in the Koran, ...

RAINN Statistics: Somewhere in America, a woman is sexually assaulted every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. About 81% of rape victims are white; 18% are black; 1% are of other races.

Where does it say in the Bible, "rape women if you have the opportunity and strength to do so. Then, after you're caught, blame society for your own mental illness, after all, you are certainly not responsible for your own acts."

America is 84% Christian. (56 percent Protestant; 28 percent Roman Catholic.) Does the Bible permit them to go psycho whenever they think they want some?

Easily the stupidest, most bigoted thread of the week. Congratulations.

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Islam's beliefs in Muhhamad as being a prophet of God is confusing at best to me. Muhaamed was run out of Mecca and fled to Meddina where he raided trade caravans between the two cities to support his twisted sense of holy justice. Being a thief and a liar may be acceptable if the one you look to as prophet has got the green light from God to do so.

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

Contrast that with the life of Moses.

Draw your own conclusions. I've made mine.

*nods* As someone who has read the Koran and seemed to have skipped that part, I'd like to see that where that passage is located.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: PClark99

Originally posted by: bentwookie
another point is they are looting government targets..

Actually, thats not entirely correct, they are also targeting businesses, schools, any location that has anything of value. I got that from the O'Reilly Factor on Foxnews.

Schools and hospitals WERE military bases and ammo dumps though.

I saw one neighborhood who was keeping the peace in their area had written a religious scholar to ask if looting was ok, of course they were told it was not. They are collecting and RETURNING things now, show me one other instance of looters returning ANYTHING based on principal, seems some of the Iraqi's have more ethics than most people worldwide, or maybe it was 30 years of lawless opppression on them that makes them feel the need to do things right.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: her209
Poor hungry people deserve to be jailed.

Thank you for your vote of support for Saddam, sorry, we don't agree and have freed his people.

 

[MadRat]

97%? Yeah right. I doubt that even 15% of the population is truly Muslim. Thats like calling all catholics as true Catholics.

Islamic ideals have been forced upon Iraqi people, they didn't exactly all become Muslim by choice. Go back a few centuries and see how they became Muslims.

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: ConantheBarbarian

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Islam's beliefs in Muhhamad as being a prophet of God is confusing at best to me. Muhaamed was run out of Mecca and fled to Meddina where he raided trade caravans between the two cities to support his twisted sense of holy justice. Being a thief and a liar may be acceptable if the one you look to as prophet has got the green light from God to do so.

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

Contrast that with the life of Moses.

Draw your own conclusions. I've made mine.

Please provide sources where Prophet Mohammad PBUH did these acts as you described. You forgot the traitorous jews that betrayed him and joined the meccans that tried to kill him and his the whole viallage. Next time STFU and keep your twisted thoughts to yourself.

You will be sitting in Hell during a snow storm before you ever get me to STFU. I did a google on Islam and Mohammad and the Qur'an. I have my faith, you have yours. You are entitled to your beliefs, but you will not tell me to STFU for expressing mine, got it! :|

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot

Originally posted by: ConantheBarbarian

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Islam's beliefs in Muhhamad as being a prophet of God is confusing at best to me. Muhaamed was run out of Mecca and fled to Meddina where he raided trade caravans between the two cities to support his twisted sense of holy justice. Being a thief and a liar may be acceptable if the one you look to as prophet has got the green light from God to do so.

Contrast that with the life of Christ.

Contrast that with the life of Moses.

Draw your own conclusions. I've made mine.

Please provide sources where Prophet Mohammad PBUH did these acts as you described. You forgot the traitorous jews that betrayed him and joined the meccans that tried to kill him and his the whole viallage. Next time STFU and keep your twisted thoughts to yourself.

You will be sitting in Hell during a snow storm before you ever get me to STFU. I did a google on Islam and Mohammad and the Qur'an. I have my faith, you have yours. You are entitled to your beliefs, but you will not tell me to STFU for expressing mine, got it! :|

You're as big a clown as ever, Tripleshot.