Where do you think Germany would be if there had never been a Hitler?

[SirFshAlot]

What if they had had a Churchill or MacCarthur instead of Hitler?

Would they be a dominant world power today?

Would other nations have alligned differently if there were a more revered leader?

 

[vi edit]

Hitler is arguably one of the most motivational leaders in the last couple hundred years. He drug germany up from the pits and made them a superpower once again. It's hard telling what could have happened.

 

[NFS4]

All of our goodies and cheap stuff would say "Made in Germany"

 

[GTaudiophile]

No Treaty of Versailles -> No Hiltler -> No WWII -> No Marshall Plan -> Slower economic recovery?

 

[TimberWolf]

You all forget about Joseph Stalin.

The Red Alert strategy game's premise is that Hitler never became a serious threat; and that the Soviet Union made it's bid for world power during the 1950's.

BTW - The Versaille Treaty was the restrictions, reparations, and economic penalties imposed on Germany for losing the first World War.

 

[uncouth]

I would have had relatives to visit in Europe. But then again I probably wouldn't have been born.
You might now be talking to my genetic replica "couth".

What this question is really bringing up is another question about individuals creation versus societies change.

Do people rise from the masses to become leaders only because society needs them or do people rise up and change society? If it is the former then if not Hitler then Von Ryan would have assended to power instead to cause similar trouble. But if its the later then anyone could have risen to power and all future events would be entirely changed. When World War II vanishes most of us vanish as well.

 

[GasX]

Germany's head of state would probably be called Hymie Goldbergstein.

Everyone in Europe that survived the nuclear holocaust of the late 50's would speak Russian.

German cars would suck.

China would only have 800,000,000 people and they would all speak Japanese.

Asahi would be Australian for beer.

Canadians would be cool

 

[TravisBickle]

<< Hitler is arguably one of the most motivational leaders in the last couple hundred years. He drug germany up from the pits and made them a superpower once again. It's hard telling what could have happened. >>

what a quote, your bad English is unintentionally quite apt, Hitler was indeed a drug for Germany.
actually Hitler caused such a world upheaval, we can't answer that question without reference to the rest of the world, and it's just too hard to answer.
hmm, Germany shook off debts by not paying them, seized Jewish property, made use of a more internally self sufficient system with the support of the industrial barons, and made use of slave labor. this is the cause of the &quot;economic miracle&quot; which was geared for and depended on war.
I don't know about a &quot;Hymie Goldbergstein&quot;, but I remember Ludwig Wittgenstein the philosopher, born just about the same time as Hitler, very close geographically... interesting comparison to Hitler...!