Originally posted by: loki8481
craig, you don't find HuffPo and KOS biased?
I can find exception pieces on them that are biased - after all they're largely collections of short pieces by many people, some of who are a bit out there - but not enough to characterize the sites overall, IMO. I find them to be liberal sites - siding with the liberal viewpoint - but mostly reasonably. I've stopped frequenting Huffingtonpost much though and never frequented DailyKOS much, though.
Let's do a quick test to see how they are today. (Going to grab headlines)
Huffington Post:
- Top headline a Biden quote about Palin, other stories on the debate
- Editorial by Arianna that the winner of the debate was 'That One'
- Video clip of McCain oops "my prisoners'
- Story that Palin took questions from press corps for first time
- Story with Palin Quote Troopergate: 'nothing to hide'
- "Cindy McCain unleashed: From Calm to Combative"
- McCain's mortgage plan: a gift from taxpayers to banks
- Gary Hart column on how to deal with the greed on Wall Street
Anyway, it goes on, but I'd say that's 'liberal opinion' more than 'biased'.
Some of it's fluff, like Madonna attacking Sarah Palin, other is useful, like the very well-informed ex-Republican Kevin Phillips' commentary on 'the bungled bailout'.
There's also humor - the new video with Paris Hilton, 'candidate for president', and Martin Sheen.
We really get into definitions - if Huffington Post claimed to be 'objective' or only have news, absolutely, it'd be 'biased'. But as a primarily site for liberals, it seems reasonable.
What would make it 'biased' as such a site? If it ran a lot of stories that were not only selectively liberal - which they are - but were frequently false and/or unfair.
Looking at other stories, like the McCain campaign crowds shouting Obama is a "terrorist" and "kill him", and Katie Courc's comment on Palin- they're accurate and fair.
Looking further for biased examples, nothing is jumping out - news on the Nobel prizes, the environmental impact of Ike, a story on Lehman Bros. golden parachutes.
Now for DailyKOS (checking now):
The top entry is about tv ad spending last week. It just has some notes on the spending, like:
McCain has invested significantly in national ad buys -- a good 16 percent of his ad budget. By comparison, national ad buys make up only 1.7 percent of Obama's. This suggests that the McCain camp has been desperately trying to reverse his poor national polling...
or
Obama finally put some meat into Minnesota, a state he had sort of blown off for a while
Story 2: Georiga race is close
Story 3: About how Palin is being limited to speeches to right-wigg audiences. It seems like it has little to say and might be 'biased', but it's not inaccurate, and is an opinion piece.
Story 4: The poster's favorite moment of the debate - the 'bomb bomb bomb Iran' quip
Story 5: An attack on McCain's claim he knows how to get Osama bin Laden
Story 6: the 'my fellow prisoners' oops
Story 7: Georgia Sentate race close
Story 8: Polls on House races
Story 9: An attack on a RedState attack (funny, the site I singled out for attack in my post above) debunking their attack about 'voter fraud'
Story 10: About the ads that were effective from 2006 being used again
In short - nothing jumps out at me about 'bias', again it's a liberally oriented site that seems to be accurate for a liberal news/opinion site.
Now in contrast, I'll go see what RedState has up now:
They debunked the entry from a guy and site I've never heard of ('The Washington Independent' which said Rumsfeld and Patreus had an awward handshake.
It pointed out that Rumsfeld had arm surgery and it was not a slight.
Story 2: A suggested script to run against Obama by calling him a 'friend of terrorists'
Story 3: attacks an author who criticized McCain for being unfamiliar with modern computer technology by calling the author a "media whore who thinks war wounds are a great opening for ridicule", pointing out that McCain's war injuries prevent him from using a keyboard.
As I understand it, the issue with McCain is about a lot more than his typing, so the story sounds pretty dishonest.
Story 4: Attack on ACORN. The attacks on ACORN - we've seen several on our forum - appear to be an orchestrated attack campaign aimed at Barack Obama.
It looks like one of those stories where it's a matter of opinion how much weight you give to isolated examples of wrongdoing.
Story 5: An argument why the government bailout of Wall Street is not socialism
Story 6: An old Hillary-Barack debate clip about William Ayers
Story 7: Another attack on ACORN
Story 8: I'll quote the headline:
"Tom Brokaw, Bill Ayers, and Barack Obama
Has the world gone mad, or it just those three?"
Now, you see the idea of 'bias'? Here they're calling William Ayers "mad", even though he's now a professor, for acts 40 years ago; but worse, they call Obama "mad", which is clearly absurdly 'biased', and even Tom Brockaw. It's a hit piece on him - the first line is "Tom Brokaw is no longer revered, if he ever had been."
Story 9: Another ACORN attack
Apparently humor for the far right, McCain being introduced as the next vice-president.
The righties seem to love Palin.
Anyway, IMO, the contrast is strong between the two, the left having liberal advocacy articles that generally appear accurate and fair, while the right is 'Ayers and ACORN' 24x7.
The hyping of things like Ayers, and the tone of 'Ayers, Obama and Brokaw' being 'mad' is over the top, 'bias' is an easy label IMO.