Where do you go for your bias political news?

MBony

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Can you list where you go? I am democrat and even time a debate happens all the blogs I frequent says Obama won (of course). I'd like to see the other side by reading some more conservative blogs.

Thanks
 

StageLeft

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I get most of my news from P&N links and drudgereport. I find CNN and fox to be total sh*t. drudge has a republican fanbase from what I can tell, but I like itnonetheless, it's very quick and cuts to the chase. also money.cnn.com but regular cnn.com is toilet trash.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: MBony
Can you list where you go? I am democrat and even time a debate happens all the blogs I frequent says Obama won (of course). I'd like to see the other side by reading some more conservative blogs.

Thanks

its probably says those things because he did.
 

dphantom

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I use the Drudge site to get to any number of sources. Most are biased left or right.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: MBony
Can you list where you go? I am democrat and even time a debate happens all the blogs I frequent says Obama won (of course). I'd like to see the other side by reading some more conservative blogs.

Thanks

its probably says those things because he did.

At least someone knows that leftist blogs tend to lean..well...left. Now go back to DU little one.
 

nageov3t

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I get most of my "real" news from the New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall St. Journal.

I used to read Talking Points Memo, but their hackery this election cycle was too much for me. deleted them from my rss feeds... only other blogs I read are non-political ones (gaming/gossip/music).
 

jonks

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Recognize that Obama is winning by a good margin in just about every national poll, indicating more people plan to vote for him than McCain. This is likely to color their interpretation of the "winner" of a debate, a contest which cannot avoid subjective analysis. That said, even republicans think Obama won more than Democrats think McCain won. You know it's not impossible that most sources actually do think Obama won both debates, right?

http://mediacurves.com/
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: MBony
Can you list where you go? I am democrat and even time a debate happens all the blogs I frequent says Obama won (of course). I'd like to see the other side by reading some more conservative blogs.

Thanks

its probably says those things because he did.

At least someone knows that leftist blogs tend to lean..well...left. Now go back to DU little one.

first of all, i don't know what DU means

second i thought he was talking about newspapers, don't know where i got that

third blogs suck.

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: MBony
Can you list where you go? I am democrat and even time a debate happens all the blogs I frequent says Obama won (of course). I'd like to see the other side by reading some more conservative blogs.

Thanks

its probably says those things because he did.

At least someone knows that leftist blogs tend to lean..well...left. Now go back to DU little one.

first of all, i don't know what DU means

second i thought he was talking about newspapers, don't know where i got that

third blogs suck.


DU is 'Democratic Underground' which I don't reach much.

I haven't found much of what I see as 'biased' left-wing sites; I have seen left-wing sites (Salon, Huffington, DailyKOS, the excellent commondreams.org, etc.)

But they seem to simply have pretty accurate info mostly. I look for the raving 'Republicans eat babies' stuff and it's hard to find.

In contrast, I can't think of a right-wing site that isn't 'biased'. Some of them are really absurd, like redstate.

Salon used to have a great feature where they'd list about a couple dozen blog stories a day pulled from both the right and left wing blog sites, but they got rid of it.
 

LittleNemoNES

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MSNBC, drudge, Huffingtonpost, dailykos, bbc.co.uk, googlenews, ap

Somewhere in between I find the actual story.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: loki8481
craig, you don't find HuffPo and KOS biased? :confused:

I can find exception pieces on them that are biased - after all they're largely collections of short pieces by many people, some of who are a bit out there - but not enough to characterize the sites overall, IMO. I find them to be liberal sites - siding with the liberal viewpoint - but mostly reasonably. I've stopped frequenting Huffingtonpost much though and never frequented DailyKOS much, though.

Let's do a quick test to see how they are today. (Going to grab headlines)

Huffington Post:

- Top headline a Biden quote about Palin, other stories on the debate
- Editorial by Arianna that the winner of the debate was 'That One'
- Video clip of McCain oops "my prisoners'
- Story that Palin took questions from press corps for first time
- Story with Palin Quote Troopergate: 'nothing to hide'
- "Cindy McCain unleashed: From Calm to Combative"
- McCain's mortgage plan: a gift from taxpayers to banks
- Gary Hart column on how to deal with the greed on Wall Street

Anyway, it goes on, but I'd say that's 'liberal opinion' more than 'biased'.

Some of it's fluff, like Madonna attacking Sarah Palin, other is useful, like the very well-informed ex-Republican Kevin Phillips' commentary on 'the bungled bailout'.

There's also humor - the new video with Paris Hilton, 'candidate for president', and Martin Sheen.

We really get into definitions - if Huffington Post claimed to be 'objective' or only have news, absolutely, it'd be 'biased'. But as a primarily site for liberals, it seems reasonable.

What would make it 'biased' as such a site? If it ran a lot of stories that were not only selectively liberal - which they are - but were frequently false and/or unfair.

Looking at other stories, like the McCain campaign crowds shouting Obama is a "terrorist" and "kill him", and Katie Courc's comment on Palin- they're accurate and fair.

Looking further for biased examples, nothing is jumping out - news on the Nobel prizes, the environmental impact of Ike, a story on Lehman Bros. golden parachutes.

Now for DailyKOS (checking now):

The top entry is about tv ad spending last week. It just has some notes on the spending, like:

McCain has invested significantly in national ad buys -- a good 16 percent of his ad budget. By comparison, national ad buys make up only 1.7 percent of Obama's. This suggests that the McCain camp has been desperately trying to reverse his poor national polling...

or

Obama finally put some meat into Minnesota, a state he had sort of blown off for a while

Story 2: Georiga race is close

Story 3: About how Palin is being limited to speeches to right-wigg audiences. It seems like it has little to say and might be 'biased', but it's not inaccurate, and is an opinion piece.

Story 4: The poster's favorite moment of the debate - the 'bomb bomb bomb Iran' quip

Story 5: An attack on McCain's claim he knows how to get Osama bin Laden

Story 6: the 'my fellow prisoners' oops

Story 7: Georgia Sentate race close


Story 8: Polls on House races

Story 9: An attack on a RedState attack (funny, the site I singled out for attack in my post above) debunking their attack about 'voter fraud'

Story 10: About the ads that were effective from 2006 being used again

In short - nothing jumps out at me about 'bias', again it's a liberally oriented site that seems to be accurate for a liberal news/opinion site.

Now in contrast, I'll go see what RedState has up now:

They debunked the entry from a guy and site I've never heard of ('The Washington Independent' which said Rumsfeld and Patreus had an awward handshake.

It pointed out that Rumsfeld had arm surgery and it was not a slight.

Story 2: A suggested script to run against Obama by calling him a 'friend of terrorists'

Story 3: attacks an author who criticized McCain for being unfamiliar with modern computer technology by calling the author a "media whore who thinks war wounds are a great opening for ridicule", pointing out that McCain's war injuries prevent him from using a keyboard.

As I understand it, the issue with McCain is about a lot more than his typing, so the story sounds pretty dishonest.

Story 4: Attack on ACORN. The attacks on ACORN - we've seen several on our forum - appear to be an orchestrated attack campaign aimed at Barack Obama.

It looks like one of those stories where it's a matter of opinion how much weight you give to isolated examples of wrongdoing.

Story 5: An argument why the government bailout of Wall Street is not socialism

Story 6: An old Hillary-Barack debate clip about William Ayers

Story 7: Another attack on ACORN

Story 8: I'll quote the headline:

"Tom Brokaw, Bill Ayers, and Barack Obama
Has the world gone mad, or it just those three?"

Now, you see the idea of 'bias'? Here they're calling William Ayers "mad", even though he's now a professor, for acts 40 years ago; but worse, they call Obama "mad", which is clearly absurdly 'biased', and even Tom Brockaw. It's a hit piece on him - the first line is "Tom Brokaw is no longer revered, if he ever had been."

Story 9: Another ACORN attack


Apparently humor for the far right, McCain being introduced as the next vice-president.

The righties seem to love Palin.

Anyway, IMO, the contrast is strong between the two, the left having liberal advocacy articles that generally appear accurate and fair, while the right is 'Ayers and ACORN' 24x7.

The hyping of things like Ayers, and the tone of 'Ayers, Obama and Brokaw' being 'mad' is over the top, 'bias' is an easy label IMO.
 

351Cleveland

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: MBony
Can you list where you go? I am democrat and even time a debate happens all the blogs I frequent says Obama won (of course). I'd like to see the other side by reading some more conservative blogs.

Thanks

its probably says those things because he did.

At least someone knows that leftist blogs tend to lean..well...left. Now go back to DU little one.

first of all, i don't know what DU means

second i thought he was talking about newspapers, don't know where i got that

third blogs suck.


DU is 'Democratic Underground' which I don't reach much.

I haven't found much of what I see as 'biased' left-wing sites; I have seen left-wing sites (Salon, Huffington, DailyKOS, the excellent commondreams.org, etc.)

But they seem to simply have pretty accurate info mostly. I look for the raving 'Republicans eat babies' stuff and it's hard to find.

In contrast, I can't think of a right-wing site that isn't 'biased'. Some of them are really absurd, like redstate.

Salon used to have a great feature where they'd list about a couple dozen blog stories a day pulled from both the right and left wing blog sites, but they got rid of it.


Shocking... you mean all left wing websites are fair and all right wing sites are biased? I mean... I didnt see that coming from you. :)

Personally, I do drudge because he is usually faster than the other big guys. He cuts both ways too. He is a conservative, but he links to the liberal stuff too.