Where do you draw the line for temps?

CatchPhrase

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I heard that 80c is the limit for GPU and 60c is the limit for CPU.
When do you start seeing artifacts?
 

covert24

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all depends on your video card really. theres no set temp for seeing artifacts. my 8600gts climbs up to 75 while playing COD4 and all runs well.
 

covert24

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its not ideal but gpu's have a much higher threshhold and can handle a significant amount of heat with little to no problems. 80c is kinda high though. id invest in a new heatsink or something to cool that baby down a bit.
 

imported_wired247

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I draw the line where the manufacturer tells me to do so.

It is usually available on the website or in the documentation.


People are overly paranoid about temps, with the mentality that "what is too hot for me is too hot for my processor!"


this is a silly notion but a good number of people will assume that 25C must be superior to 50C in terms of performance


 

imported_Scoop

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My Pentium D goes up to 76C and my 7600GT runs at 92C under load. I haven't stress tested the system for more than 4 minutes so they probably go somewhat higher with longer periods of time. But the system is stable in games and everything else so I don't mind :)
 

CatchPhrase

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Originally posted by: wired247
I draw the line where the manufacturer tells me to do so.

It is usually available on the website or in the documentation.


People are overly paranoid about temps, with the mentality that "what is too hot for me is too hot for my processor!"


this is a silly notion but a good number of people will assume that 25C must be superior to 50C in terms of performance
I deeply apologize that I care about my components getting damaged.

 

Sylvanas

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Originally posted by: wired247
I draw the line where the manufacturer tells me to do so.

It is usually available on the website or in the documentation.


People are overly paranoid about temps, with the mentality that "what is too hot for me is too hot for my processor!"


this is a silly notion but a good number of people will assume that 25C must be superior to 50C in terms of performance

Agreed, the Tjunction for modern day CPU's and GPUs are around 95+c so thats where I start getting worried about my temps, under that and sure its hot but meh- if i shorten my components lifespan from 10years to 5 years I don't care since I am not likely to have the same computer in 5 years time....
 

PCTC2

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Well, the shutdown point for nVIDIA cards is around 130C. I would say they're good up to around 105C. Anandtech had their passive Sparkle 8800GT @ 100C fine.
As for CPU's, it really depends on the generation. P4/PD up to 80C. Core2 B2/B3 70C. Core2 G0 80C. But it is all opinion. Sites have run chips without HSF and it is shown that the thermal protection kicks in before any damage happens. If anything, you just shorten the lifespan from 10 years to 6-7 years. Nothing too bad. People are too paranoid about temperatures.
 

imported_wired247

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Originally posted by: CatchPhrase
Originally posted by: wired247
I draw the line where the manufacturer tells me to do so.

It is usually available on the website or in the documentation.


People are overly paranoid about temps, with the mentality that "what is too hot for me is too hot for my processor!"


this is a silly notion but a good number of people will assume that 25C must be superior to 50C in terms of performance
I deeply apologize that I care about my components getting damaged.


The point is, the manufacturer's knowledge about appropriate temps > your knowledge.

People think "50C feels hot to the touch. It must be bad for a processor" "80C is really cooking."

When these very same temps are 110% tested and appropriate for various CPU/GPUs .


What is hot for you != what is hot for your processor
 

downhiller80

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I've got a sparkle passive, what utility will tell me how hot it's running? seems happy enough so far, though I've not played crysis or NFS carbon (the only demos I've tried since I bought this new PC) for more than 20mins at a go so far. Heatsink gets HOT, but it's designed to work so I trust it, just curious about the core temp :)
 

badnewcastle

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I usually go by what the manufacturer says and when I OC, it seems my stuff blows up right about when it's time to upgrade... for example my cpu's tjunction is 100c, never worry about it... however my video card crashes ~85c and that's not oc'd, I just use riva tuner to keep it from getting there but I figure it will go this summer and I'll get a new one or turn it in for the lifetime guarantee.
 

DSF

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Originally posted by: CatchPhrase
I heard that 80c is the limit for GPU and 60c is the limit for CPU.
When do you start seeing artifacts?

The correct answer is that it depends quite a bit on what hardware you're talking about. Core2Duos can comfortably operate at 70C and perhaps even up to 80C depending on the stepping.

Graphics cards generally have even higher temperature thresholds than CPUs. As someone mentioned, Nvidia's thermal safeguards don't even come into play until after you've crossed the 100C mark.
 

Modelworks

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I try to keep the cpu below 65C and the gpu below 85C.
Both are way below manufacturer specs.
Those are temps I know I can achieve with proper cooling so I tend to strive for that.

People tend to compare things based on personal experience.
So when people see a cpu running at 90C they compare it with what they know best, the daily temps we live in . Compared to that its really high. But remember these are silicon and copper , not human flesh :)
 

Binky

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I wait until it crashes then I turn the fans up a bit. Silence > lower temps. I've seen very few CPU/GPU failures in my life.

My Core2 chips have been perfectly happy up until 65c-70c (depends on stepping). I'm also perfectly happy with an idle temp above 40c. My current video card (geforce 7900GT) seems to get unstable above 75c (per speedfan), so that's where i draw the line.
 

Tempered81

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my e4300 doesnt like 80 plus
my 8800gt 512 oc doesnt like 90 plus
and my x1950xt didn't like 95 plus
 

Markfw

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I have some that go as high as 75-77c (B3 Q6600), but its the most stable box I have ! It runs 100% load 24/7/365
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: wired247
Originally posted by: CatchPhrase
Originally posted by: wired247
I draw the line where the manufacturer tells me to do so.

It is usually available on the website or in the documentation.


People are overly paranoid about temps, with the mentality that "what is too hot for me is too hot for my processor!"


this is a silly notion but a good number of people will assume that 25C must be superior to 50C in terms of performance
I deeply apologize that I care about my components getting damaged.


The point is, the manufacturer's knowledge about appropriate temps > your knowledge.

People think "50C feels hot to the touch. It must be bad for a processor" "80C is really cooking."

When these very same temps are 110% tested and appropriate for various CPU/GPUs .


What is hot for you != what is hot for your processor

I seriously doubt Intel knows what is best for my Western Digital hardrives.

Are you going to grow up anytime soon or do we get to continue to enjoy your perception that your opinion > anyone else's? You continue to press this angle of attack that your opinion is superior to all others by way of assuming everyone else's ability to have an opinion is subject to your assessment and approval. Totally FTL dude.
 

Binky

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Originally posted by: Idontcare

I seriously doubt Intel knows what is best for my Western Digital hardrives.

Are you going to grow up anytime soon or do we get to continue to enjoy your perception that your opinion > anyone else's? You continue to press this angle of attack that your opinion is superior to all others by way of assuming everyone else's ability to have an opinion is subject to your assessment and approval. Totally FTL dude.

Keep it civil. I tend to agree with wired247 and I don't see anything inflamatory in his/her post. Many people worry too much about temps. Your post seems a bit angry.

Nothing was said about HD temps. If you want info there, read the Google study on HD temps and HD lifespans.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: Binky
Originally posted by: Idontcare

I seriously doubt Intel knows what is best for my Western Digital hardrives.

Are you going to grow up anytime soon or do we get to continue to enjoy your perception that your opinion > anyone else's? You continue to press this angle of attack that your opinion is superior to all others by way of assuming everyone else's ability to have an opinion is subject to your assessment and approval. Totally FTL dude.

Keep it civil. I tend to agree with wired247 and I don't see anything inflamatory in his/her post. Many people worry too much about temps. Your post seems a bit angry.

Nothing was said about HD temps. If you want info there, read the Google study on HD temps and HD lifespans.

Oh really? You don't find statements where its bolded that others are "too paranoid" and that they have "silly notions" as being a bit inflamatory?

And for the record I am referring to the fact that Intel did not spec their chips to go to 80C thinking that an 80C furnace next to a Western Digital harddrive might cause an issue for the hard-drive. Meaning manufacturers don't necessary know what is best for the end user, and the end user being concerned about this does not mean we have silly notions and are too paranoid.
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Oh really? You don't find statements where its bolded that others are "too paranoid" and that they have "silly notions" as being a bit inflamatory?

No. His comments weren't directed just at you.

Overly-sensitive forums members FTL.

 

F1shF4t

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My B3 q6600 works nicely at 80C @100% P95 load. Never see those temps on normal use.
The gfx card was OCed to 630 on the core (factory) and started to artifact at 84C. I reflashed it to 594 core and it was stable up to and over 95C.
That was before I combined the HR03 ultra (core) and the stock cooler (mem and vregs), now it rarely gets above 75C