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Where did viruses come from?

Schadenfroh

Elite Member
I mean, they are not alive, cant reproduce on their own. But yet, they mutate, is that considered their evolution? According to my proffessor, 4% of our DNA in our genome is of viral origin, so basically all humans are born infected with many. But, how did they originate? Are they some screw up from the animals/plants they infect that got lose as they evolved?
 
well, viruses themselves don't actually mutate. the dna replication mechanisms within the host cell is usually what causes the virus to mutate. sometimes UV or carcinogenic chemicals will cause changes in virus' DNA, but it's usually mistakes in replication that causes mutations.

and i'm not too sure about our own genome being "infected." there might be remnants of viral genes, but the fact that they're inactive means that we're not really infected.

anyway, to answer your question, nobody really knows how they originated. there's the classic experiment (i forget the researcher) that as able to make organic molcules simply by mixing basic elements (O, N, H, etc.) and applying an electric charge. the idea is that, more complicated molecules arose through spontaneous chemical reactions eventually leading to organelles and then single-celled organisms. pretty much intro evolution which i took 4 years ago, so i'll be damned if i remember more than just the basic principles.


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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I found this on Google.

thats a good article and pretty much sums it up.



well, viruses themselves don't actually mutate. the dna replication mechanisms within the host cell is usually what causes the virus to mutate

actually, retroviruses carry in their own replication machinery (reverse transcriptase) that is EXTREMELY error prone relative to cellular polymerases leading to a high mutation rate.
 
Originally posted by: gururu
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I found this on Google.

thats a good article and pretty much sums it up.



well, viruses themselves don't actually mutate. the dna replication mechanisms within the host cell is usually what causes the virus to mutate

actually, retroviruses carry in their own replication machinery (reverse transcriptase) that is EXTREMELY error prone relative to cellular polymerases leading to a high mutation rate.
well, yes and no. they carry the gene for reverse transcriptase, not the enzyme itself. it still all boils down to the host's machinery.


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Originally posted by: theNEOone

well, yes and no. they carry the gene for reverse transcriptase, not the enzyme itself. it still all boils down to the host's machinery.

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not right. every RNA virus (including retroviruses) either:
1) carries in a working molecule of reverse transcriptase or RNA polymerase
2) synthesize one upon entry

DNA viruses rely on the cellular machinery and are therefore LESS error prone. DNA viruses do not take up mutations easily. RNA viruses mutate BECAUSE they bring in their own machinery.

 
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