Where did it all go so wrong?

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: retrospooty
Here's a newsflash for you... Its not all that bad. Sure we are spending WAY too much on bailouts to try and stabilize the economy, and the post office will likely stop saturday delivery... Ont he other hand, how many million iPhone's sold last year? I mean, really... We will be fine. The economy will rebound, the country will go on, and is anyone REALLY going to die if there is no US mail on Saturday? I check mine about once a week anyhow. there is no bill that wont wait until the following monday to open. If your not a senior citizen, you probably pay most of your bills online anyhow.

Sure times are tough... but where is a better country to live in? You name it, I 'll check it out.

iPhones? Those things made in China are actually saving our economy? Sure Apple made about 33% profit on the darn thing while China generated 100,000 jobs in making them. Whose economy do you think is being saved? US or China?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Reaganomics, Where Reagan saved social security by raising collections so he could steal the surplus and give tax breaks to the rich.

Do you think the poor should get tax cuts?

I think the right-wing ideology has absurdly simplistic notions of issues like that - things like pretending that each person's 'worth' is equivalent to their productivity.

Missing are any sensible notions of the human issues, the need for balance between people having needs that create moral issues, with the need for productivity to create the wealth from which those needs can be met, while balancing the reward for incenting productivity with the needs of people. Missing are the ideas of things like investing in people - it's mainly liberals who have done things like call for massive investment in public education that the right-wing is willing to say they like later on, but always wanting to 'cut back'.

So forget about 'tax cuts for the poor', and instead look at what systems can help increase the employment of the poor, their productivity and thereby their wealth.

While the right might be happy with a nation of poverty for most - what would their plan be, for example, in a stuation like the South American nations where a few wealthy families can own nearly all the wealth - but we need better plans for investing in our citizens. And yes, those plans include the wealthy who get rich off the rest of society paying a fair share for the society's needs.