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Where can you hear a 77 yr old calling for Pres. Bush's throat to be slit?

Riprorin

Banned
Air America of course.

A lot of anger going on

Liberal fury at Team Bush has gotten positively murderous

The voice-mail message started out innocently enough. The caller gave her name and said she lived in Connecticut and was 77 years old.
"I think Air America is a breath of fresh air, and we liberals love it.... You didn't like what they said about the President on the Randi Rhodes program? Too bad about you. I believe that Osama Bin Laden had it right: His throat should be slit."

Whoa, Nellie - what's going on here? What happened to arsenic and old lace?

The caller was among the scores of people responding to my Wednesday pan of Air America Radio, the all-liberal-all-the-time network carried on WLIB (1190 AM) in New York.

I wrote then that during 10 hours of programs, network hosts made frequent sex jokes about the Catholic Church, suggested that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld should be tortured and that President Bush should be shot.

While Al Franken, the network's top host, told me later in a phone chat he was sure there was no literal intent of violence, the angry caller certainly found the idea of a dead President appealing.

It's a chilling thought, all the more so because the caller, whose name I won't repeat, was endorsing throat-slitting on the very day America was reeling from the pictures of Nick Berg's beheading by Arab terrorists.

Her call was unique in that regard, but the overwhelming tone of the responses made clear that some on the left are burning with an anger at the Bush administration that borders on irrationality. Attacks are not expressed in terms of disagreement. Rather, the players of Team Bush are routinely called liars, cheats and thieves and likened to the Taliban and Nazis.

Some respondents have bypassed anger and gone straight to hate.

"Hating Rumsfeld is the most patriotic thing anyone can do," Suzanne Hayes wrote in a fairly typical E-mail. Like many others, she began by calling me names - "a brainless right-wing idiot" - and asserted that Air America speaks for the "liberal majority."

In that case, bring back the silent majority. At least they were nicer!

The most striking thing about the responses was how most said that right-wing talk jocks had been spewing venom for years and now it's payback time.

"It's return fire," wrote Greg Burrows. "Long live Air America."

Those making that argument invariably cited Rush Limbaugh, which confirmed my suspicion that the pill-popping Rush has rattled the libs. Apparently having given up on beating him, they've sunk to defending their own low-road antics by saying he did it first.

As every parent knows, that's a mighty lame excuse for bad behavior. In political terms, it makes the left part of the problem instead of the solution.

But I heard that explanation over and over.

Because of Limbaugh's attacks on feminists, "calling Rush a Nazi ... is long overdue," wrote Tom Nugent. Patrick Robinson of Seattle said the references were fair because "Limbaugh often comes off like a modern Hitler."

Let's see: Limbaugh's bombast = the man who did the Holocaust. Talk about your fuzzy math.

It's too soon to say whether Air America will develop enough of an audience to be a political force, but a liberal friend is pessimistic.

"Their cardinal sin is not being funny," said the man, who is a successful TV executive. "It's not enough just to be an angry activist if you want to get people to listen."

He left me with a good question: Why is it that the left, which has a lock on the entertainment industry, can't figure that out?

Originally published on May 16, 2004

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Who fvcking cares what some nutcase caller says? You do realize AM talk radio shows let on the fanatics as it only helps boost ratings.

BTW, a caller to Michael Medved yesterday wished death upon Hillary Clinton, are you as equally outraged?
 
Werd, you have whackos like that women on the left and you have whackos like Riprorin on the right. Niether has a non partisan thought between them and only are interested in inflaming those whom don't agree with them lock, stock and barrel!
 
More detail on the antics of Air America from a previous column by the same author.

Liberal radio is airing bad jokes and worst taste

The United States "is on the slippery slope to theocratic fascism." "The Catholic Church has been secretly encouraging oral sex for years."
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld "ought to be tortured." President Bush should be taken out and shot.

Those are a few nutso nuggets from the hosts of Air America Radio, which calls itself the new liberal voice. The fledgling network is carried in New York on WLIB, 1190 AM. With the Iraq torture scandal everywhere, I tuned in, expecting to hear sober policy analysis mixed with glee over President Bush's political pickle.

Instead, I got 10 hours of rancid venom directed at the President, Rumsfeld, Rush Limbaugh, the Catholic Church and anyone else the hosts felt like slamming. If you're a card-carrying lib who likes crude sex jokes and a cartoonish echo chamber, Air America is for you.

Take one host's linking the talk of "pulling out" the troops with the claim that "that's what the Catholic Church says about premarital sex." Ha, ha.

The network aims to give Dems a media organization to counter Limbaugh and others on the right who dominate talk radio. (What, National Public Radio and The New York Times aren't enough?)

The signing of comedian and best-selling author Al Franken gave Air America a liberal drawing card. But if his three-hour show on Monday was typical, he could sink the ship instead of saving it.

Two attempts at humor were offensive. In his "oy, oy show," set to Israeli music, a sidekick reads news reports - in this case, the murder of the Russian-backed president of Chechnya. Franken's role is to pipe up with a lighthearted "oy, oy, oy." Yep, nothing tickles the ribs like assassination.

Franken also imitated a priest giving Communion, saying "Body of Christ" when an imagined pedophile priest was in line but "not for you" when pro-choice politicians came up.

The church was a day-long obsession, as was Limbaugh. He is an "awful man," "a pig" and "a Nazi."

Color me confused. If Franken & Co. hate the pill-popping Limbaugh so much, why imitate his tarpit tone? Sounds like Limbaugh has simply driven them nuts.

Missing was the tension that comes from honest debate. Only Franken had guests voicing even slight distance from the party line, which is that John Kerry is perfect except he should attack Bush more.

The queen of venom, Randi Rhodes, followed Franken in the host slot. Her imitation of a cracker military type telling a soldier to "insert this fluorescent light bulb into that man's buttocks" was revolting. She compared U.S. prisons in Iraq to the "Nazi gulag" and said, "The day I say thank you to Rumsfeld is the same day I'll say thank you to the 12 people who raped me."

Rock bottom came when she compared Bush and his family to the Corleones in the "Godfather" saga. "Like Fredo, somebody ought to take him out fishing and phuw," she said, imitating the sound of gunfire.

During a day of torture by radio, I heard ads for Hewlett-Packard, Greyhound and, especially, General Motors. I asked GM why it appeared in such shows.

Ryndee Carney, GM's manager of marketing communications, said the ads were wrongly picked up from an earlier deal with WLIB. She said the station was ordered to "cease and desist" yesterday, and added: "GM will not advertise on any Air America affiliates."

Originally published on May 12, 2004

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I know I would never listen to Air Amerika. I'm not interested in what the lunatic fringe thinks, that's why I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity on the Radio either
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I know I would never listen to Air Amerika. I'm not interested in what the lunatic fringe thinks, that's why I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity on the Radio either

I personally object. They are good to listen to. They make you relaize how normal and Intellgent you are compared to them and their callers.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Werd, you have whackos like that women on the left and you have whackos like Riprorin on the right. Niether has a non partisan thought between them and only are interested in inflaming those whom don't agree with them lock, stock and barrel!

Care to share your views on Catholics and Catholic priests, Mr. Moderate?

I'm sure that we would all find it very entertaining.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Werd, you have whackos like that women on the left and you have whackos like Riprorin on the right. Niether has a non partisan thought between them and only are interested in inflaming those whom don't agree with them lock, stock and barrel!

Care to share your views on Catholics and Catholic priests, Mr. Moderate?

I'm sure that we would all find it very entertaining.

Do we really need his views to find the Catholic church amusing? :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Werd, you have whackos like that women on the left and you have whackos like Riprorin on the right. Niether has a non partisan thought between them and only are interested in inflaming those whom don't agree with them lock, stock and barrel!

Care to share your views on Catholics and Catholic priests, Mr. Moderate?

I'm sure that we would all find it very entertaining.
Yeah I find the Catholic Religion to be more festive than many of the other rather dour religious sects. As for their Priests, as long as they aren't Pedophiles I haven't a problem with them.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Air America of course.

A lot of anger going on

Liberal fury at Team Bush has gotten positively murderous

The voice-mail message started out innocently enough. The caller gave her name and said she lived in Connecticut and was 77 years old.
"I think Air America is a breath of fresh air, and we liberals love it.... You didn't like what they said about the President on the Randi Rhodes program? Too bad about you. I believe that Osama Bin Laden had it right: His throat should be slit."

Whoa, Nellie - what's going on here? What happened to arsenic and old lace?

The caller was among the scores of people responding to my Wednesday pan of Air America Radio, the all-liberal-all-the-time network carried on WLIB (1190 AM) in New York.

I wrote then that during 10 hours of programs, network hosts made frequent sex jokes about the Catholic Church, suggested that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld should be tortured and that President Bush should be shot.

While Al Franken, the network's top host, told me later in a phone chat he was sure there was no literal intent of violence, the angry caller certainly found the idea of a dead President appealing.

It's a chilling thought, all the more so because the caller, whose name I won't repeat, was endorsing throat-slitting on the very day America was reeling from the pictures of Nick Berg's beheading by Arab terrorists.

Her call was unique in that regard, but the overwhelming tone of the responses made clear that some on the left are burning with an anger at the Bush administration that borders on irrationality. Attacks are not expressed in terms of disagreement. Rather, the players of Team Bush are routinely called liars, cheats and thieves and likened to the Taliban and Nazis.

Some respondents have bypassed anger and gone straight to hate.

"Hating Rumsfeld is the most patriotic thing anyone can do," Suzanne Hayes wrote in a fairly typical E-mail. Like many others, she began by calling me names - "a brainless right-wing idiot" - and asserted that Air America speaks for the "liberal majority."

In that case, bring back the silent majority. At least they were nicer!

The most striking thing about the responses was how most said that right-wing talk jocks had been spewing venom for years and now it's payback time.

"It's return fire," wrote Greg Burrows. "Long live Air America."

Those making that argument invariably cited Rush Limbaugh, which confirmed my suspicion that the pill-popping Rush has rattled the libs. Apparently having given up on beating him, they've sunk to defending their own low-road antics by saying he did it first.

As every parent knows, that's a mighty lame excuse for bad behavior. In political terms, it makes the left part of the problem instead of the solution.

But I heard that explanation over and over.

Because of Limbaugh's attacks on feminists, "calling Rush a Nazi ... is long overdue," wrote Tom Nugent. Patrick Robinson of Seattle said the references were fair because "Limbaugh often comes off like a modern Hitler."

Let's see: Limbaugh's bombast = the man who did the Holocaust. Talk about your fuzzy math.

It's too soon to say whether Air America will develop enough of an audience to be a political force, but a liberal friend is pessimistic.

"Their cardinal sin is not being funny," said the man, who is a successful TV executive. "It's not enough just to be an angry activist if you want to get people to listen."

He left me with a good question: Why is it that the left, which has a lock on the entertainment industry, can't figure that out?

Originally published on May 16, 2004

link

Do you listen to Air America?
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Who fvcking cares what some nutcase caller says? You do realize AM talk radio shows let on the fanatics as it only helps boost ratings.

BTW, a caller to Michael Medved yesterday wished death upon Hillary Clinton, are you as equally outraged?

What's that, Riprorin? I can't hear you.

All I hear is the sound of crickets.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Who fvcking cares what some nutcase caller says? You do realize AM talk radio shows let on the fanatics as it only helps boost ratings.

BTW, a caller to Michael Medved yesterday wished death upon Hillary Clinton, are you as equally outraged?

Of course.

Did the caller advocate slitting her throat?
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: conjur
Who fvcking cares what some nutcase caller says? You do realize AM talk radio shows let on the fanatics as it only helps boost ratings.

BTW, a caller to Michael Medved yesterday wished death upon Hillary Clinton, are you as equally outraged?

Of course.

Did the caller advocate slitting her throat?

So the difference is that one wanted one dead by a specific means, while the other would settle for any means?

One is hardly superior to the other.

BTW, I disapprove of either suggestion.
 
This just adds to the pointlessness of talk radio. I wish I could understand the appeal of it, but I don't -- oh well....
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: conjur
Who fvcking cares what some nutcase caller says? You do realize AM talk radio shows let on the fanatics as it only helps boost ratings.

BTW, a caller to Michael Medved yesterday wished death upon Hillary Clinton, are you as equally outraged?

Of course.

Did the caller advocate slitting her throat?

So the difference is that one wanted one dead by a specific means, while the other would settle for any means?

One is hardly superior to the other.

BTW, I disapprove of either suggestion.

There could be a difference; I didn't hear the comment on Medved.

Did the caller say that he wished that she would drop dead, in the figuritive sense?

That would be different than suggesting that someone should literally slit Bush's throat.

I would say that this comment was especially egregious since it occured on the day of the Berg incident.

It's not only this comment that's offensive, read the whole articles on Air America.
 
Geeze, what is with all these Air America threads...did one of the producers sleep with all of you neo-cons wives or something? I mean who cares. Must be a slow week for Kerry bashing.
 
By intentionally copying the prevalent right wing hate format, Air America has managed to elicit similarly looney, dangerous and hate filled responses. No surprise there.

Rush and friends have made a highly successful life's work of this. Dittoheads come back day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day for another mindless helping of home made hate pie. Right wing hate supports an entire industry, and makes celebrity stars out of its hate masters.

Air America will fail. Why? Not enough mindless haters on the left to support even ONE hate circus outlet.

Hmmmmmmmmm. Quite a damning contrast, nicht wahr?
 
Of course his points, such as they are, are well-taken, but of late Goodwn hasn't been able to get off his right wing high horse long enough to listen to all the people on the ground. That's one of the perils of being on the editorial board of a right wing publication.

All of these talk shows get people who are simply venting. This is nothing more than the venting of anger against Bush. And, if Goodwin-one of the right wing's all day suckers-finds Air America filled with transparent anger, perhaps he hasn't listened to Boortz, Limbaugh, or O'Reilly.

It's all about painting the opposition as wackos isn't it?

This guy gets an F for not demonstrating any understanding of the human psyche, let alone politics. Why would anyone read such sophomoric sh**?

-Robert
 
Some info on Michael Goodwin from the NY Daily website:

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Michael Goodwin started writing a twice weekly column for the Daily News in May 2004. Goodwin previously served as The News' Executive Editor and Editorial Page Editor. In 1999, he led the Editorial Board to its first Pulitzer Prize in 58 years for its successful campaign to rescue the famed Apollo Theatre from fiscal mismanagement. Goodwin also led the board to a coveted Polk Award for efforts to win expanded rights for migrant farm workers.
Born in Lewistown, Pa., Goodwin spent 10 years as a reporter at The New York Times. He has taught at the Columbia University School of Journalism, co-authored "I, Koch," a biography of New York's former mayor, and was host of a cable TV show. Goodwin lives in New York with his wife and two children.
 
Riprorin:

I'm afraid his ideals filled youth are long behind him and lately what was a fine Cabernet has turned into nothing but common vinegar.

-Robert
 
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