Where can i buy those 3ft tall yellow concrete poles

[Twista]

Someone hit my garage during the night and did some serious damage with there car. I would like to avoid this in the future by having concrete poles installed. How much do they cost each? Before you ask how. However they did they pushed in the side wall and broke the wood that holds the garage door track so the door is hanging now. Also, the pillar is leaning now. My garage is located next to an alley (picture below).

Picture below of how the garage is located by the alley. :

 

[0roo0roo]

err pipe/fence posts
mostly its about depth for strength and good concrete in the deep holes. probably any fence post would do as long as you buried it 4+ feet down and threw it a buncha concrete.

 

[Twista]

err pipe/fence posts
mostly its about depth for strength and good concrete in the deep holes. probably any fence post would do as long as you buried it 4+ feet down and threw it a buncha concrete.

Thanks for the quick reply. I see there called "POST" instead of POLE
Do you know how much one typically cost? And im afraid i might need my city permission to do this. Which means i have to get it approved then pay them for a permit. :'(

 

[0roo0roo]

well any hardware store will sell posts/poles for fences, and they can't be more than about 10 bucks each really, the materials are dirt cheap for fences, 4x4 treated fence post 8 feet long is about 10 bucks. i doubt a metal one costs much more. bags of fence post cement are maybe 2 bucks for 50lb. you'd need 6 bags maybe for a good deep 300lb anchor in the hole..maybe some gravel too. cost of such projects is in sweat. you dig..and dig..

 

[iGas]

Around $50 for a 10' length of 3"-4" sch 40 black iron pipe (get it cut in half for $5), 6-8 bags of 60lbs pre mixed quikrete at around $5 each.

Jack hammer rental, and trenching shovel (around $30-$50 for the weekend). Some elbow grease to break up a couple of holes in the pad and dig down 2' deep per holes, then fill in the base and post with quikrete (a small leveler with dual direction will help with leveling the posts).

A spray can of primer and a spray can of yellow enamel paint will be around $10 total.

Total cost will be around $150.

 

[skyking]

you could do it yourself, if you can get the concrete slab cut. You will not likely need a permit for just a post. You will need to call locate before you dig.
I have used schedule 40 6" steel pipe, 6' long in a 3' deep hole. Fill with concrete and concrete the hole in. If you want to get artsy, mix up the last batch a little stiff, cap the post and use a piece of plastic film like a shoe polisher would polish a shoe, and put a nice radius end on it. I have gotten a similar looking result using that method, then painting.
http://diebolddirect.com/round-top-guard-post-sleeve.aspx

 

[deadlyapp]

If you're a man you can use a post-hole digger and just spend a day digging a few holes a couple feet deep

 

[0roo0roo]

naw that pricing has to be off igas, chain link fence is about the cheapest crap fence out there, so it has to be about as cheap as regular wood fencing stuff. iron pipe would work but maybe over kill, i'm not sure how a car would do against a chain link fence post, if it takes it out, the car is probably not driving away. fence post concrete is cheaper. its just a lump underground so it doesn't need to be construction grade concrete

 

[BoomerD]

well any hardware store will sell posts/poles for fences, and they can't be more than about 10 bucks each really, the materials are dirt cheap for fences, 4x4 treated fence post 8 feet long is about 10 bucks. i doubt a metal one costs much more. bags of fence post cement are maybe 2 bucks for 50lb. cost of such projects is in sweat. you dig..and dig..

Steel pipe such as in the pic posted above isn't cheap. I suspect that unless you find a screaming deal, you're looking at somewhere between $40 and $60 per foot...and you should have at least 6 feet for each one. (minimum 2 feet in the ground for 4 feet above...the more you have buried, the stronger it will be.) Then, add the cost of concrete to fill the pipe..6 inch pipe, 6 feet long will require a bit more than 2 cubic feet each. IIRC, that's about 3.5 80 lb bags of concrete mix @ about $3.50 each.

If you haunt some of the salvage/scrap yards, you SHOULD be able to find the pipe much cheaper than buying it as a steel supply house.

 

[Ksyder]

I'm confused about where you want to put the posts... but either way you'll want to use a 14" concrete saw to cut the slab so you can use a post hole digger or auger to dig the holes for the posts. Good luck just "breaking" them.

 

[0roo0roo]

If you're a man you can use a post-hole digger and just spend a day digging a few holes a couple feet deep

yea that is the painful part.

slate/wrecking bar for bashing any rocks/roots in the hole.

 

[Twista]

Thanks for the replies. Its a really old garage, but it does its job. Its much worst on the outside though:
Had to relocate the track screws because where it cracked is where the long screws you see were at.

 

[BoomerD]

Thanks for the replies. Its a really old garage, but it does its job. Its much worst on the outside though:
Had to relocate the track screws because where it cracked is where the long screws you see where at.

Fixing the garage looks like a job for your insurance company. (and that of the person who owns the car) Let the "professionals" handle that.

 

[0roo0roo]

Steel pipe such as in the pic posted above isn't cheap. I suspect that unless you find a screaming deal, you're looking at somewhere between $40 and $60 per foot...and you should have at least 6 feet for each one. (minimum 2 feet in the ground for 4 feet above...the more you have buried, the stronger it will be.) Then, add the cost of concrete to fill the pipe..6 inch pipe, 6 feet long will require a bit more than 2 cubic feet each. IIRC, that's about 3.5 80 lb bags of concrete mix @ about $3.50 each.

If you haunt some of the salvage/scrap yards, you SHOULD be able to find the pipe much cheaper than buying it as a steel supply house.

maybe. depends on the thickness of the pipe i guess. fence post should be closer to 1/3 below the ground atleast... and to stop a car.perhaps 1/2.

is he trying to stop some slightly drunk guy, or a big rig flying towards his house at 60mph? if you want to build an anti suicide bombing bollard type security barrier i guess you can go that far. i'm just not sure how well a normal car could walk away from any fence post filled with concrete buried to a decent depth.

who knew...best buy a target for terror:awe:

 

[Twista]

Fixing the garage looks like a job for your insurance company. (and that of the person who owns the car) Let the "professionals" handle that.

Hit and run though so the person who did it. Well is scott free, but karma will get them.

 

[iGas]

Steel pipe such as in the pic posted above isn't cheap. I suspect that unless you find a screaming deal, you're looking at somewhere between $40 and $60 per foot...and you should have at least 6 feet for each one. (minimum 2 feet in the ground for 4 feet above...the more you have buried, the stronger it will be.) Then, add the cost of concrete to fill the pipe..6 inch pipe, 6 feet long will require a bit more than 2 cubic feet each. IIRC, that's about 3.5 80 lb bags of concrete mix @ about $3.50 each.

If you haunt some of the salvage/scrap yards, you SHOULD be able to find the pipe much cheaper than buying it as a steel supply house.

Here in Canada it cost roughly $200 for a 21' length of 4" sch 40 black iron pipe delivered. Hence, the price should be cheaper in the US.

 

[iGas]

maybe. depends on the thickness of the pipe i guess. fence post should be closer to 1/3 below the ground atleast... and to stop a car.perhaps 1/2.

is he trying to stop some slightly drunk guy, or a big rig flying towards his house at 60mph? if you want to build an anti suicide bombing bollard type security barrier i guess you can go that far. i'm just not sure how well a normal car could walk away from any fence post filled with concrete buried to a decent depth.

who knew...best buy a target for terror:awe:

2' deep is the standard for posts.

 

[LTC8K6]

Hit and run though so the person who did it. Well is scott free, but karma will get them.

Your insurance will still fix the garage.

 

[BoomerD]

Here in Canada it cost roughly $200 for a 21' length of 4" sch 40 black iron pipe delivered. Hence, the price should be cheaper in the US.

OK...if you say so. I was just guesstimating based on some of the on-line price sheets:

http://www.columbiapipe.com/documents/0/010 - Pipe.aspx

O.D.--------Wt/ft---Price per foot
4" Sch 40 10.79 28.65

6" Sch 40 STD 18.97 50.37

2' deep is the standard for posts.

Yep, and SHOULD be set in concrete.

 

[0roo0roo]

2' deep is the standard for posts.

i dunno about that, i read that you need atleast 1/3 depth for fence posts, maybe even more for gate posts. and thats just fencing, if you are trying to stop a car....

maybe 2' if you have a large thick reinforced high quality concrete slab you are setting it in, but a hole in the mud with some concrete?..doesn't sound right.

 

[paperfist]

Get some 6x6 PT lumber, dig a couple of 18" diameter holes 4' deep and fill it with quick cure concrete. Top it off with some horse heads to match the car and no mofo will touch your garage again.

Did you turn it in to the cops? There's some car driving around town with front end damage... prolly not hard to catch unless you live in a big city.

i dunno about that, i read that you need atleast 1/3 depth for fence posts, maybe even more for gate posts. and thats just fencing, if you are trying to stop a car....

maybe 2' if you have a large thick reinforced high quality concrete slab you are setting it in, but a hole in the mud with some concrete?..doesn't sound right.

Soil type sounds like it will come into play. We sunk a 3" black iron pipe 3' into the ground at an angle and attached a come along to that and my garage. I was shocked that the pipe held while pulling the garage over into a heap.

 

[iGas]

i dunno about that, i read that you need atleast 1/3 depth for fence posts, maybe even more for gate posts. and thats just fencing, if you are trying to stop a car....

maybe 2' if you have a large thick reinforced high quality concrete slab you are setting it in, but a hole in the mud with some concrete?..doesn't sound right.

There is no fixed depth for posts, and you can go as deep as you like. However it is best to have at least 6" or more below frost line. That said the province of BC government, and Canadian federal government sites around here (civilian and arm forces) required a minimum of 2' deep for posts, and are to be set in concrete.

 

[MiniDoom]

fill pvc tube up with concrete?

 

[todpod]

fill pvc tube up with concrete?

Thats what I was going to say, 4" PVC is cheap, piece of rebar down the middle of it and away you go. a 10' section of SCH 40 4" PVC should be less then 10 bucks. You can probably do this for less then $25

 

[0roo0roo]

well if ur gonna do that then just get a 12" sono tube and cast yourself a concrete bollard.

no need for pvc.