i recall reading about samsung developing thin CRT monitors and TV's. Are they still going to make them? It'll be a nice alternative to LCDs.
where are the thin CRT monitors??
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Yes Shallow crts with carbon tubes are to be avail in 2006, also SED's like 3rd gen phone screens will be avail 1/2 as thick as current tftlcd.
Not exactly, the Shallow CRT's are similar to todays with a 3 ray guns firing through a holed sheet, but they will instead hit a carbon sheet.
The SED's are same as the new G3 mobile (cell) video phones where its lights similar to LED's, they aint got ray guns firing in them lol, but the test monitor i think used to be 5" is now 17" i think and is 1/2 thickness of current tftlcd, its avail in google and also some good reputive site told how tftlcd will never be no1 in market as CRT is still fav with gamers ans soon the Shallow CRT and SED's will be avail its not years away as Samsung said avail to buy early 2006.
I know some peeps love tftlcd but i will never own one and them dells they rave on about aint made by dell i bet and the apple screen are far superior anyhow.
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/7572
http://news.com.com/LG+Philips+lays+cla.../2100-1041_3-5418175.html?tag=nefd.hed
Seems some call it OLED's i seen it as SED's also.
SED (Surface-conduction Emission Display) technology
http://displays.engadget.com/entry/1234000043024997/
http://www.dvdtown.com/messageboard/topic/10/11486/
The SED's are same as the new G3 mobile (cell) video phones where its lights similar to LED's, they aint got ray guns firing in them lol, but the test monitor i think used to be 5" is now 17" i think and is 1/2 thickness of current tftlcd, its avail in google and also some good reputive site told how tftlcd will never be no1 in market as CRT is still fav with gamers ans soon the Shallow CRT and SED's will be avail its not years away as Samsung said avail to buy early 2006.
I know some peeps love tftlcd but i will never own one and them dells they rave on about aint made by dell i bet and the apple screen are far superior anyhow.
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/7572
http://news.com.com/LG+Philips+lays+cla.../2100-1041_3-5418175.html?tag=nefd.hed
Seems some call it OLED's i seen it as SED's also.
SED (Surface-conduction Emission Display) technology
http://displays.engadget.com/entry/1234000043024997/
http://www.dvdtown.com/messageboard/topic/10/11486/
I think the shallow CRTs will be used for TVs only, and not monitors. I'm not sure if they'll be able to compete well with plasma TVs, which are getting alot cheaper.
Ofcoarse its for tv's to Plasma is crap and it is prone to the colours fading (i dont know 100% on this as i not want a plasma).
tftlcd is probably better than plasma but for plasma can be larger.
Fact is i will hold onto my 29" CRT TV and 19" CRt monitor as ive had them so long i can wait till new tech is here, instead wasting cash on something i dont really like in the meantime.
tftlcd is probably better than plasma but for plasma can be larger.
Fact is i will hold onto my 29" CRT TV and 19" CRt monitor as ive had them so long i can wait till new tech is here, instead wasting cash on something i dont really like in the meantime.
Wow, you are all wrong.
Thin CRT is out. Samsung and LG have been selling 30" models for some time now. They are thinner than normal CRTs however they weigh the same and they are not LCD/PDP thin. Remains to be seen if they will ever really make it. Good concpet as CRT quality is still tops - until SED hits the market.
SED is the logical replacement for CRT. Technically it is much different, yet it still works in a similar way. Each pixel basically acts as its own little CRT (bad way of explaining it). They finally offer an LCD thin (or thinner) package with better than CRT quality. They are also easy to make and fairly cheap. Toshiba should have 60" models out by the end of the year. Why are 60" models important - because unlike LCD and OLED, they have perfected the technology, adapting it to smaller sets will be easy as opposed to working your way up.
OLED is the next logical step, but still has a long way to go. OLEDs can be paper thing, folded, rolled, etc... and use almost no electricity. If OLED can ever make it to market, the fight will clearly be between OLED and SED, LCD and PDP are for all intents and purposes dead.
CNT is in the starting stages. Carbon Nano Tubes offer some cost advantages over other types of sets, but I really see these as SED II, not really something new. They will probably begin to integrate the tubes into a lot of devices and most next gen sets will benefit from them.
Thin CRT is out. Samsung and LG have been selling 30" models for some time now. They are thinner than normal CRTs however they weigh the same and they are not LCD/PDP thin. Remains to be seen if they will ever really make it. Good concpet as CRT quality is still tops - until SED hits the market.
SED is the logical replacement for CRT. Technically it is much different, yet it still works in a similar way. Each pixel basically acts as its own little CRT (bad way of explaining it). They finally offer an LCD thin (or thinner) package with better than CRT quality. They are also easy to make and fairly cheap. Toshiba should have 60" models out by the end of the year. Why are 60" models important - because unlike LCD and OLED, they have perfected the technology, adapting it to smaller sets will be easy as opposed to working your way up.
OLED is the next logical step, but still has a long way to go. OLEDs can be paper thing, folded, rolled, etc... and use almost no electricity. If OLED can ever make it to market, the fight will clearly be between OLED and SED, LCD and PDP are for all intents and purposes dead.
CNT is in the starting stages. Carbon Nano Tubes offer some cost advantages over other types of sets, but I really see these as SED II, not really something new. They will probably begin to integrate the tubes into a lot of devices and most next gen sets will benefit from them.
Wow, you are all wrong.
Thin CRT is out. Samsung and LG have been selling 30" models for some time now. They are thinner than normal CRTs however they weigh the same and they are not LCD/PDP thin. Remains to be seen if they will ever really make it. Good concpet as CRT quality is still tops - until SED hits the market.
SED is the logical replacement for CRT. Technically it is much different, yet it still works in a similar way. Each pixel basically acts as its own little CRT (bad way of explaining it). They finally offer an LCD thin (or thinner) package with better than CRT quality. They are also easy to make and fairly cheap. Toshiba should have 60" models out by the end of the year. Why are 60" models important - because unlike LCD and OLED, they have perfected the technology, adapting it to smaller sets will be easy as opposed to working your way up.
OLED is the next logical step, but still has a long way to go. OLEDs can be paper thing, folded, rolled, etc... and use almost no electricity. If OLED can ever make it to market, the fight will clearly be between OLED and SED, LCD and PDP are for all intents and purposes dead.
CNT is in the starting stages. Carbon Nano Tubes offer some cost advantages over other types of sets, but I really see these as SED II, not really something new. They will probably begin to integrate the tubes into a lot of devices and most next gen sets will benefit from them.
Thin CRT is out. Samsung and LG have been selling 30" models for some time now. They are thinner than normal CRTs however they weigh the same and they are not LCD/PDP thin. Remains to be seen if they will ever really make it. Good concpet as CRT quality is still tops - until SED hits the market.
SED is the logical replacement for CRT. Technically it is much different, yet it still works in a similar way. Each pixel basically acts as its own little CRT (bad way of explaining it). They finally offer an LCD thin (or thinner) package with better than CRT quality. They are also easy to make and fairly cheap. Toshiba should have 60" models out by the end of the year. Why are 60" models important - because unlike LCD and OLED, they have perfected the technology, adapting it to smaller sets will be easy as opposed to working your way up.
OLED is the next logical step, but still has a long way to go. OLEDs can be paper thing, folded, rolled, etc... and use almost no electricity. If OLED can ever make it to market, the fight will clearly be between OLED and SED, LCD and PDP are for all intents and purposes dead.
CNT is in the starting stages. Carbon Nano Tubes offer some cost advantages over other types of sets, but I really see these as SED II, not really something new. They will probably begin to integrate the tubes into a lot of devices and most next gen sets will benefit from them.
irwincur, No your the one who's wrong, these techs aint out till 2006 for us to buy, you obv reading some other info, read the urls i posted and google it its not exactly hard to do.
I did see a thin tube Samsung CRT at CC. At first I thought it was an LCD until I looked at the back and it was obviously a CRT of some sort.
Go read WWW, outside tech shows they aint around nor is SED's, it clearly stats Shallow Crt is 2006 not now.
SED isn't out till 2006 and probably only for high end TVs. One problem I heard (still rumor) with SED is the designers can't give it much more then 10000 hours of display life yet (in the low refrsh enviornment of a TV set) and probably much shorter with high res/refresh gaming. Once it burns out, your replacing the whole unit, not a bulb. This wouldn't work out for a computer monitor unless your rich.
Uh LCDs have already surpassed CRT sales globally. Last year about 59 million units were sold. Unless you believe that CRTs have had a sudden resurgence and/or that LCDs sales are in a slump, it stands to reason with current trends that there are already more LCDs sold than CRTs. And I doubt that's so with the current price war for LCDs (did you think that a 17" costing about twice as much last year as it does now has to do with improved manufacturing technology?).
Given that, sure LCD is a transitional technology, to be overtaken by some other technology in the future. But so is every other technology -- they all have a period where they're in the labs, then a period where they're introduced and basically for the rich guys because they're really expensive, then they gradually become cheaper as manufacturing techniques and quality of the display are improved over time. Then there's a peak, before the technology is finally so mature (and the market is so saturated) that there's not much to do with it and it gets overtaken by another technology. This process takes decades. LCDs aren't forecast to really go down the tubes until around 2020 or so.
So to say that 2006 is going to be doom-and-gloom for LCDs because of other emerging technologies is silly. When new technologies are introduced, they are always very expensive and full of problems (such as, oh, say, dead pixels). New technologies need time to mature before they're competitive with other technologies for the average joe. Not to mention, it's the sale of current technology that drives the research and development of new technology. These things don't come out of nowhere. And that current technology is still very much improved on -- using current technology as a benchmark for new and upcoming technology is unfair, since the current technology will also improve during the maturation phase for the new technology.
So while yes shallow CRT's may make a good alternative to LCDs, they'll likely be some time away yet. You may want to see if you're willing to wait a few years or pay the big bucks. To get back to the original question, there's some information about the shallow CRT stuff (at least, I think it's what you're talking about) on Samsung's website below.
Sources:
http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Graphics-LCD/a/9000000063439.htm (Global Sources is a good site for LCD technology news, should check out the other articles on the graphics page too)
http://www.samsungsdi.co.kr/contents/en/product/cpt/tech01.html
Given that, sure LCD is a transitional technology, to be overtaken by some other technology in the future. But so is every other technology -- they all have a period where they're in the labs, then a period where they're introduced and basically for the rich guys because they're really expensive, then they gradually become cheaper as manufacturing techniques and quality of the display are improved over time. Then there's a peak, before the technology is finally so mature (and the market is so saturated) that there's not much to do with it and it gets overtaken by another technology. This process takes decades. LCDs aren't forecast to really go down the tubes until around 2020 or so.
So to say that 2006 is going to be doom-and-gloom for LCDs because of other emerging technologies is silly. When new technologies are introduced, they are always very expensive and full of problems (such as, oh, say, dead pixels). New technologies need time to mature before they're competitive with other technologies for the average joe. Not to mention, it's the sale of current technology that drives the research and development of new technology. These things don't come out of nowhere. And that current technology is still very much improved on -- using current technology as a benchmark for new and upcoming technology is unfair, since the current technology will also improve during the maturation phase for the new technology.
So while yes shallow CRT's may make a good alternative to LCDs, they'll likely be some time away yet. You may want to see if you're willing to wait a few years or pay the big bucks. To get back to the original question, there's some information about the shallow CRT stuff (at least, I think it's what you're talking about) on Samsung's website below.
Sources:
http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Graphics-LCD/a/9000000063439.htm (Global Sources is a good site for LCD technology news, should check out the other articles on the graphics page too)
http://www.samsungsdi.co.kr/contents/en/product/cpt/tech01.html
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