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Where Are The Gigabyte G35 mATX Motherboards?

TheBeagle

TheBeagle

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I would like to build a mATX PC utilizing the upcoming Gigabyte G35 motherboard, but there has been a virtual lack of information on a release of that type of board by Gigabyte. Does anyone have any updated information on this item?

Best regards to everyone. TheBeagle 😀 :beer:

 
I'm curious about this too. I have been using Gigabytes G33 chipset MATX boards for the past year with great success in my builds but now I notice everyone is "discontinuing" them. Tells me something is in the offing but I don't know what and I'm sitting on a bunch of bids that I may be scrambling for boards to fill if something doesn't surface soon!

Any insight, anyone?
 
it seems most of the m/b makers are skipping the g35 in favor of the g45. Main changes are full offload of video playback and displayport support.
 
How is 5~6 months considered 'just around the corner'? And it's not likely that we'll see a bunch of G45 boards by that time.
 
Yeah thats a nice pic and all but where is the info man??
That Gigabyte board is my next upgrade so screw waiting 5-6 months.
Not that in 5-6 months I wont upgrade again from G35 to G45 😉 .
I just recently ditched a Ip35-E and went back to the mobo in my sig due to it being able to kick the crap out of the Ip35-E all day long in overclocking.
I can get 500+ FSB with my G33m and only around 400-450 if I was lucky with a IP35-E.
So Gigabyte has totaly won me over with there Micro ATX Boards.
G35M FTW!!
 
Good Evening Everyone.

Well, the rumors about Gigabyte and most of the other major players skipping the G35 chipset and moving directly to the upcoming G45 chipset now appear to be most likely true. Very informed sources have confirmed that skip-over transition, and we shall have a whole new line of mATX boards to play with before mid-year.

Although I was planning on a new build with a G35 board, the prospects of substantially improved onboard video and memory management make me now willing to wait for the G45 offerings.

If anyone has some valid info on the G45 chipset and its features, I'd like to hear about it. Best regards to everyone. TheBeagle 😀 :beer:

 
Don't know how I missed this, but according to Gary, G35 doesn't have a hardware acceleration for H.264 and VC1. I thought there was at least *some* sort of help from the on-board GPU or possibly via future drivers, but apparently that is not the case. Makes me wonder what's the point of the chipset, and at the same time makes me understand why we're not seeing a slew of motherboards from various vendors. Without HD decoding, G35 is nothing more than glorified .. dunno what to call it? A RAMDAC?

No one in their right mind will buy an mATX to play games, so right now the most important feature for new mATX should be HD playback capability, IMO. (Other than folks who want a small form factor rig) Without hardware assistance for HD decoding, the only differentiating factor of G35 from previous IGP is 'official' newer processor support. And that explains the lack of boards in the market - Mobo manufacturers can design the boards with older chipsets such that they can support new CPUs. Why pay premium for expensive chipset when old ones can do the same for lower prices?

Intel recently released a beta set of drivers (15.9.0.1414 - Vista) to us that has basically solved the majority of our repeater problems and includes full MPEG-2 hardware acceleration. H.264/AVC hardware acceleration is not available with the G35 chipset, we will have to wait for G45, but with a reasonable CPU like an E6550, the H.264 playback experience is not bad at all. We are in the middle of testing Nero Showtime v4, CoreAVC, WinDVD, and Arcsoft with this board and will report on our results in a separate article along with alternatives like Media Player Classic and the required programs to go along with it.
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http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=377
 
Board under testing = P5E-VM HDMI (G35/ICH9R)

I have tested the following clip (my favorite for H.264 decoding) with E8400 @3.6GHz and E2140 @3.2GHz and found that there isn't really a difference.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/hd/bbc-nhk.html

This clip is brutal. Not the best quality but in spite of (or maybe because of) that, it's a really good test to find out a system's HD decoding capability. Try it out @1080p - I haven't encountered an mATX board that handles this clip flawlessly. Note this movie playst @30fps, not 24fps which is more common.
 
So my take is:

If you have a specific need (such as overclocking or HDMI outlet, or even RAID), current best bet is ASUS P5E-VM HDMI. Don't expect flood of G35/G45 boards in any time soon. GeForce 8200 is rumoured to be out in near future, so that could be a consideration. But knowing NV, I won't hold my breadth. (in many sense) For a perfect, 100% HD decoding, discrete GPU is the only way to go. I'd look out for user reviews of those $50 cards from AMD. (HD 3450? or something like that)
 
Just about everyone is skipping G35 for G45, this includes Gigabyte. The majority of resources were put on AMD 780G and NV GeForce 8200 for this release cycle. You will see why shortly although that means a return to AMD on the CPU side. The G35 is an excellent chipset, the last set of drivers we received fixed several HDMI problems and the review will be up on Tuesday. However, we are expecting great things from G45 (full H.264 decode on the chipset), its just going to come later than expected.

We are taking a different look at these boards now, that includes full testing utilizing a decent A/V system (Pioneer Elite VSX94, 5.1/7.1 audio setup, HD-DVD/Blu-ray drives, and more), HD3450/3650 cards (soon to be joined by the NV9600), then cramming the board into a SFF case, and us banging the hell out of the systems. Video quality/playback, power management, features, support, and SOHO performance is at the top of the list. We will also test with Vista-64 SP1 and 4GB as the base, will test 8GB if the board supports it along with RAID for those A/V types.

 
Horray For Gary!!

Sounds the Techies at AnandTech are busy at work giving these upcoming boards a good workout. This reinforces my updated opinion that skipping the G35 for the G45 is the right choice.

Many thanks to Gary for that very informed update.

Best regards to everyone. TheBeagle 😀 :beer:

 
renethx: Not that I doubt you or NV for that matter, but we haven't seen it in action. Not sure but didn't NV advertise GF7050/7150 as full hardware acceleration as well?
 
Originally posted by: lopri
Not sure but didn't NV advertise GF7050/7150 as full hardware acceleration as well?
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No, NVIDIA never advertised 7100/7150 as full HA. Instead NVIDIA advertised it as a better alternative to G33 in 3D performance and carefully avoided touching on video playback performance (simply because they and every reviewer knew it's a crap with this regard).

 
Originally posted by: renethx
No, NVIDIA never advertised 7100/7150 as full HA. Instead NVIDIA advertised it as a better alternative to G33 in 3D performance and carefully avoided touching on video playback performance (simply because they and every reviewer knew it's a crap with this regard).
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Maybe I'll check out the IGP performance of the 7150. Got a board to test, soon as I get test software and a digital receiver. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Gary Key
Just about everyone is skipping G35 for G45, this includes Gigabyte. The majority of resources were put on AMD 780G and NV GeForce 8200 for this release cycle. You will see why shortly although that means a return to AMD on the CPU side.
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What does that mean? Intel's entry level discrete GPUs? 😀
 
You will see why shortly although that means a return to AMD on the CPU side.

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You will see shortly the reason why the majority of resources were put on AMD 780G and GeForce 8200 for this release cycle (because 780G and 8200 outperform G35 in almost every respect, gaming or video playback) although that means a return to AMD on the CPU side (because 780G and 8200 are Socket AM2+ chipsets).

I may be wrong. 🙂

AMD RS780 IGP chipset boosts entry-level CPU sales in China

AMD's recent launched RS780 IGP chipset is enjoying strong demand in the China market and has boosted the demand for the company's entry-level CPUs, according to channel vendors in China.AMD's recent launched RS780 IGP chipset is enjoying strong demand in the China market and has boosted the demand for the company's entry-level CPUs, according to channel vendors in China.

AMD's entry-level CPU market share in China was between 40% to 50% before the launch of RS780 motherboards. But since the launch, sales have jumped to 60%-70%, noted the sources.

The strong sales can be attributed to the RS780's multimedia capabilities. AMD's decision to include its UVD engine as part of the chipset allows systems to playback DVDs and even high-definition video without the need for a powerful CPU.
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AMD 780G was released on January 23 in China. It will be released on March 4 (the first day of CeBIT) for the rest of the world. (The reason for the delay was that "Hybrid Graphics" driver was under development.) GeForce 8200/8300 mGPU will be also released at CeBIT.
 
I think you're right, renethx. I thought NV was launching 8200 for Intel and AMD simultaneously. Just checked NV site and 8200 is listed for AMD only. So I guess that's that.
 
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