Where are the Brazos 2.0 reviews?

[cebalrai]

Interesting. The more I look into this, the weirder it gets...

Apparently, the E2-3000 is almost a year old and runs at 35W:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-E-Series-E2-3000M-Notebook-Processor.55737.0.html

Kind of an odd duck, as AMD themselves classified it in the A-Series:
http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/amd-raises-aseries-bar-2011dec20.aspx

Yeah, it's an A4-3300 with less L2 cache and lower power requirements.

I dont know where you get this information, but it doesnt sound accurate. OP, you should be a bit more clear on exactly what type of Turion you have. A Turion K665 is marginally faster than an E-450 brazos. But a Turion such as the L325 is actually pretty much even. K125 is much slower than an E-450.

I said it was a Turion X2 Neo 1.6 ghz. Not sure of the model number right now because I don't have it with me.

 

[IntelUser2000]

I dont know where you get this information, but it doesnt sound accurate. OP, you should be a bit more clear on exactly what type of Turion you have. A Turion K665 is marginally faster than an E-450 brazos. But a Turion such as the L325 is actually pretty much even. K125 is much slower than an E-450.

He was quite clear that its a Turion X2 Neo. Based on that it has 1.6GHz frequency the naming is L625.

Ok, the gap is smaller, but still significant at 15-25%.

1.6GHz E-350 vs 1.5GHz X2 Athlon(which is the same generation as that Turion)
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/328?vs=116

Another comparison:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Turion-Neo-X2-L625-Notebook-Processor.31558.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-E-Series-E-450-Notebook-Processor.60138.0.html

The two comparisons would be similar to 1.7GHz new Brazos and 1.6GHz Turion.

 

[cebalrai]

Anyone know of this thing will support 1080p Netflix? Brazos lacked gpu support in Silverlight and the CPU was too weak to play that format smoothly. I really hope so... I wont buy one unless it does.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Anyone know of this thing will support 1080p Netflix? Brazos lacked gpu support in Silverlight and the CPU was too weak to play that format smoothly. I really hope so... I wont buy one unless it does.

Do you feel its fine in your Turion laptop? The fundamental architecture is same so I don't know if the experience would be vastly different between Brazos and its 2.0 version. I can't see why it would be, unless there are arbitrary reasons to enable support in 2.0 and not in 1.0.

One can imagine improving one would improve the other.

 

[podspi]

Brazos' and Atoms' ability to run Netflix also depends on the quality level. My DM1z plays SD netflix perfectly. HD netflix, slideshow.

 

[cebalrai]

Brazos' and Atoms' ability to run Netflix also depends on the quality level. My DM1z plays SD netflix perfectly. HD netflix, slideshow.

It depends on whether of not Microsoft Silverlight decides to support gpu acceleration on Brazos 2.0. They did not on 1.0, so HD Netflix was unwatchable. But other apps like Flash did support it and 1080p video played just fine.

 

[Chiropteran]

It depends on whether of not Microsoft Silverlight decides to support gpu acceleration at all. They did not on 1.0, so HD Netflix was unwatchable. But other apps like Flash did support it and 1080p video played just fine.

My understanding is that silverlight doesn't support GPU acceleration AT ALL, for any GPU. It's not just some weakness of brazos. A more powerful CPU can run the HD video fine without lag, but an E-450 is just a bit too slow. I doubt that the tiny 50mhz bump will be enough to make a difference, but if AMD ever released a brazos equivalent with core clock scaled up to 2.4ghz or so I bet it could handle HD netflix.

 

[jacktesterson]

My understanding is that silverlight doesn't support GPU acceleration AT ALL, for any GPU. It's not just some weakness of brazos. A more powerful CPU can run the HD video fine without lag, but an E-450 is just a bit too slow. I doubt that the tiny 50mhz bump will be enough to make a difference, but if AMD ever released a brazos equivalent with core clock scaled up to 2.4ghz or so I bet it could handle HD netflix.

This.

I was running a E-350 with an SSD as a bedroom HTPC for a while, played everything 100% (including 1080p flash and blu rays), yet it COULD NOT play any HD Netflix due to Silverlight 5

 

[sandorski]

Now we are getting to the important subject: Can Brazos 2 play Netflix 1080p HD?

 

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Probably not unless there as an IPC bump. I OC'ed my Brazos 1.0 to 1700+mhz and OC'ed the GPU by about 200mhz, and netflix HD ran but at times was choppy, the choppyness depended on the movie and what was going on in the scenes.

Obviously the GPU speed adjustment didn't do jack (what i originally though the problem was) as there was no GPU acceleration until the newest MS silverlight, however Netflix has to code their site to support GPU acceleration which they have not done.


I'd guess a brazos 1.0 @ 1.9ghz would play HD netflix fine. So if there was a 10% IPC increase between 1.0 and 2.0, and you can OC the new chip to ~1.8ghz I think you would be able to run most HD netflix fine. Of course I doubt if there is an IPC increrse.

 

[borisvodofsky]

Brazos 1 was already perfect IMO..

Low power

Plays HD videos

Plays HD Youtube.

what more do you want in a low power machine that you're only gonna use for 30mins to 1 hour.

 

[Xpage]

I'm going to be very curious on the pricing of a 17w trinity, might be replacing my HTPC with it. Same wattage, more power. Of course price is key.