Where are all the 1366 ITX mobo's?

[RaptureMe]

Anyone know when these are coming?
I want to get one with a L5520 seeing how they are only 60w.
I think this would make for a hell of a mini HTPC!!

 

[hans007]

well seeing as almost eveyr itx board has integrated video... i'd assume you'll have to wait until core i5 at least.

 

[lopri]

That is just too much to ask at this time, me thinks. There are decent mATX boards out there and those are your best bet for now.

 

[RaptureMe]

well they do have a mini itx shuttle but I wanted to have a choice to pick from.

 

[starams5]

Like the mod said, that's too much work. I am aware that Zotac and GIGABYTE makes mini itx boards, see link (Google search).
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q...q=&aqi=&fp=JJ2lHziMUzc

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: RaptureMe
well they do have a mini itx shuttle but I wanted to have a choice to pick from.

I think those are DTX sized.

Existing Core i7 platform wouldn't quite fit into a mini ITX form factor because of the physical size of the socket area, plus minimum 3 RAM slots, plus the CPU power area (VRMs and capacitors). It just won't physically fit.

I suppose if the power area was really cut down so that you can only run those 60W chips and if it loses one RAM slot so it can't run dual channel...

May as well wait for the Core i5 before we collectively start holding our breaths.

 

[ilkhan]

yeah probably not coming. Socket is too large and the seperate video requirement (plus having the NB still) takes too much space.
Look for P55 boards, they'll have more free space than s775 boards have/had.

The clarkdale chips will use less power and have a very sufficient GPU as well. That should be the goal, not a bloomfield. Just too power hungry for a silent HTPC build.

 

[RaptureMe]

how do you explain the mobo in this then?
Sure looks like its a itx and it fits every thing needed??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...16856101082&Tpk=SX58H7

 

[keeleysam]

Originally posted by: RaptureMe
how do you explain the mobo in this then?
Sure looks like its a itx and it fits every thing needed??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...16856101082&Tpk=SX58H7

It's not ITX...

http://www.tomshardware.com/re...sx58h7-sff,2282-3.html

 

[RaptureMe]

Originally posted by: keeleysam

Originally posted by: RaptureMe
how do you explain the mobo in this then?
Sure looks like its a itx and it fits every thing needed??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...16856101082&Tpk=SX58H7

It's not ITX...

http://www.tomshardware.com/re...sx58h7-sff,2282-3.html

Thank you very much for the link I found that very interesting.
It kinda sucks its non interchangable with up coming itx boards
I dont want core i5 or i3 they are junk plain and simple compaired to core i7.
Plus they are a minor upgrade compaired to say q9650.

 

[mozartrules]

Originally posted by: RaptureMe
I dont want core i5 or i3 they are junk plain and simple compaired to core i7.

How do you know this? Indications from what little we know is that an i5 (if that is the name) is very similar to a similarly clocked i7. The main drawback is the lower PCIe lanes, but you are not going to run SLI on an ITX board anyway and the lower latency may even be an advantage.

Rumors are that there will be i3, i5 and i7 processors for the 1156 socket in addition to i7 for 1366. The 1156 socket is the right fit for an ITX board since the socket is smaller and requires less chips, we will have to see what kind of processors they give us.

 

[taltamir]

the i7 is a quad core with hyperthreading. either s1366 which uses an extra chip (a stripped down northbridge) to get 2 slots of 16x pciev2 for video cards. or the s1156 that will have one 16x pciev2 video or two 8x slots. by fully integrating northbridge into CPU. (aka, s1366 gets better two slot video card performance, s1156 gets BETTER single slot video card performance. due to lower latency of having the video card connection come out of the cpu)

the i5 is either a quad core without HT, or a dualcore with HT.

the i3 is like the i5, only without turbo mode.

so... what programs do you run that make use of 8 threads /cores AND benefit from HT? (some lose performance on HT)

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: RaptureMe
Anyone know when these are coming?
I want to get one with a L5520 seeing how they are only 60w.
I think this would make for a hell of a mini HTPC!!

Care to explain what a L5520 2.26GHz that costs over $500 is going to do in an HTPC that the $350 Q9550S 2.83GHz or $300 Q9400S 2.66GHz would not be more than adequate for?

It is worth paying $250 more just to shave off an extra 5W TDP? Really?

If you think saving 5W is worth an extra $250, then you should be thrilled about paying $900 for mobile quad core that will save a whole 20W:

Q9100

You seem to be terribly confused about the CPU performance requirements of small form factor computers, be they HTPC or anything else. Unless you were hoping to decode Blu-Ray entirely using the CPU with no GPU/VPU off-load (which might benefit from Core i7's Hyper-Threading), what on earth would be the point?