When you buy a Dell Computer w/ Windows XP

[eflat]

Ok here is what I mean.

I buy a Dell computer. It comes with a Windows XP disk and the Windows ID#.

I erase the Dell computer hard drive and any evidence that Windows XP was ever on there. Then I take off the Windows XP Serial # sticker so there is no way anyone could intall windows XP on that computer again without that information and the disk.

Is that copy of Windows XP now mine to do with it as I please. Could I resell it? Could I install it on a new computer and sell that computer?

I could go on but I think you guys see where I am headed. Anyone know the answer?

 

[GoingUp]

IIRC, you need to sell it with a piece of hardware

 

[Rip the Jacker]

Topic Summary: Can you resell that copy of Windows XP if you delete it from the computer?
Yes you can.

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: ItmPls
Topic Summary: Can you resell that copy of Windows XP if you delete it from the computer?
Yes you can.

That is fvcking awesome! This is the solution to all my problems. Man I hope you are correct, ItmPLs, or else you just made me pee my pants in excitement for no particularly good reason.

 

[Renob]

That is a OEM version of software from Dell, I work for Dell and if you try to load that version of Windows on a non Dell system it will not work. Our version of Windows will look for a service tag number in the bios of the mother board and when it does not see one it will give you an error saying so and will not install.

But to answer your question you can sell it if you sell it with hardware, it just wont work on a system without a Dell motherboard.

So hold off on peeing your pants there Cowboy.

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: Renob
That is a OEM version of software from Dell, I work for Dell and if you try to load that version of Windows on a non Dell system it will not work. Our version of Windows will look for a service tag number in the bios of the mother board and when it does not see one it will give you an error saying so and will not install.

But to answer your question you can sell it if you sell it with hardware, it just wont work on a system without a Dell motherboard.

So hold off on peeing your pants there Cowboy.

Well I am going to be installing these copies of Windows on computers that I build myself..

So as long as I have the serial number would it be okay if I just used any old copy (ie a copy that will install) and use the serial number from the Dell system.

In other words, does the windows serial # = your right to using that Windows version on a computer or does the disk itself what is valuable.



To better explain in case that was confusing:

You see I am going to be building these computers myself and need cheap copies of Windows to install on them. My plan is to buy cheap Dell computers with Windows installed. Erase the hard drive on the Dell's and take off the Windows ID #'s.

THen I will sell the Dell's as used computers with no OS.

So now I have the OS and OS serial # not attached to any computer and I want to attach it to the computers that I build.

Can I do that?

 

[Renob]

No you cant, I dont think you understand my last post, the OS will look for the service tag and when it does not find it on the systems you build it will NOT install, also it will NOT let you put in the service tag number.



Your idea was good, but will not work.

The OS will only install on a system with a Dell mobo

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Renob
No you cant, I dont think you understand my last post, the OS will look for the service tag and when it does not find it on the systems you build it will NOT install, also it will NOT let you put in the service tag number.



Your idea was good, but will not work.

The OS will only install on a system with a Dell mobo

Even if he uses, say, a friend's retail XP disk and his legitimate, currently unused, former Dell key?

 

[dugweb]

you're gonna have one heck of a computer store tharr doug

maybe you should consider some more legitimate retailing practices

 

[mzkhadir]

You do not want to be in Microsoft Hell, my retail friend.

 

[EyeMWing]

Dell keys will not work with stock XP CDs. Dell keys will not work with stock CDs, and will not work without a Dell BIOS.

 

[TexDotCom]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Renob
No you cant, I dont think you understand my last post, the OS will look for the service tag and when it does not find it on the systems you build it will NOT install, also it will NOT let you put in the service tag number.



Your idea was good, but will not work.

The OS will only install on a system with a Dell mobo

Even if he uses, say, a friend's retail XP disk and his legitimate, currently unused, former Dell key?

The information that the OEM version of the s/w will look for is IN the motherboard. It's not on a piece of paper attached to the motherboard. THAT is why Renob said it will only install on a system with a Dell mobo.

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: Renob
That is a OEM version of software from Dell, I work for Dell and if you try to load that version of Windows on a non Dell system it will not work. Our version of Windows will look for a service tag number in the bios of the mother board and when it does not see one it will give you an error saying so and will not install.

But to answer your question you can sell it if you sell it with hardware, it just wont work on a system without a Dell motherboard.

So hold off on peeing your pants there Cowboy.

interesting... don't buy DELL>

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

<ha ha> CitizenDoug will never profit.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: TexDotCom

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Renob
No you cant, I dont think you understand my last post, the OS will look for the service tag and when it does not find it on the systems you build it will NOT install, also it will NOT let you put in the service tag number.



Your idea was good, but will not work.

The OS will only install on a system with a Dell mobo

Even if he uses, say, a friend's retail XP disk and his legitimate, currently unused, former Dell key?

The information that the OEM version of the s/w will look for is IN the motherboard. It's not on a piece of paper attached to the motherboard. THAT is why Renob said it will only install on a system with a Dell mobo.

Clearly though, the retail version of XP does not look for that code, thus the only impediment should be wether or not XP will accept the Dell key.
...I think

 

[frankgomez75]

I don't think this is gonna work. You should prolly read Dells license agreement for more clarity. I haven't, but you should.

Theoritically it may work. Your gonna use an XP Disk, not the Dell XP Disk, and your gonna install it on a PC you built, but your gonna use the serial # that came on the Dell PC, then your gonna remove the sticker from the Dell PC so that XP cannot be reinstalled on there again. Hmmm.... interesting.

I wonder if it will pass the activation process when you verify your copy. I've never used the Dell Serial # before on a regular XP installation on another PC. I know you can get around it, but than that wouldn't be legal now would it? You want this to be as legit as possible, so

1) As long as it complies with OS licensce agreement
2) Passes the activation process with the Dell serial #
3) Not installed on multiple PC's

Then I would think this should not be a problem.

However I think EyeMWing is right, the Retail XP Disk will not accept the Dell serial #.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: TexDotCom

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Renob
No you cant, I dont think you understand my last post, the OS will look for the service tag and when it does not find it on the systems you build it will NOT install, also it will NOT let you put in the service tag number.



Your idea was good, but will not work.

The OS will only install on a system with a Dell mobo

Even if he uses, say, a friend's retail XP disk and his legitimate, currently unused, former Dell key?

The information that the OEM version of the s/w will look for is IN the motherboard. It's not on a piece of paper attached to the motherboard. THAT is why Renob said it will only install on a system with a Dell mobo.

Clearly though, the retail version of XP does not look for that code, thus the only impediment should be wether or not XP will accept the Dell key.
...I think

And it won't.

 

[TexDotCom]

The retail version will work fine on Dell, Gateway, Toshiba, etc. The Dell OEM version will only work on systems where it can find a valid Dell service tag number in the BIOS of the motherboard. The issue is not the CD key.


Edit: Okay, after reading the posts just above this one...if you're trying to use the Dell OEM WinXP CD and the key that came with it on a machine you built, then it will not work. If you're trying to use a retail version of WinXP with the Dell CD key you got with your new computer...don't think it will. Still not sure which one you're trying to do, though.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: TexDotCom

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Renob
No you cant, I dont think you understand my last post, the OS will look for the service tag and when it does not find it on the systems you build it will NOT install, also it will NOT let you put in the service tag number.



Your idea was good, but will not work.

The OS will only install on a system with a Dell mobo

Even if he uses, say, a friend's retail XP disk and his legitimate, currently unused, former Dell key?

The information that the OEM version of the s/w will look for is IN the motherboard. It's not on a piece of paper attached to the motherboard. THAT is why Renob said it will only install on a system with a Dell mobo.

Clearly though, the retail version of XP does not look for that code, thus the only impediment should be wether or not XP will accept the Dell key.
...I think

And it won't.

So you're saying that a retail disk of XP will not accept a Dell key?

Just being clear here...

If that's the case, I'll accept it as a reasonable answer (although I'd like to do my own tests, but I'm not gonna get a dell to try it out).

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: Renob
That is a OEM version of software from Dell, I work for Dell and if you try to load that version of Windows on a non Dell system it will not work. Our version of Windows will look for a service tag number in the bios of the mother board and when it does not see one it will give you an error saying so and will not install.

But to answer your question you can sell it if you sell it with hardware, it just wont work on a system without a Dell motherboard.

So hold off on peeing your pants there Cowboy.

Ummm....I wonder why my copy is working and has been for 3 years.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: TexDotCom

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Renob
No you cant, I dont think you understand my last post, the OS will look for the service tag and when it does not find it on the systems you build it will NOT install, also it will NOT let you put in the service tag number.



Your idea was good, but will not work.

The OS will only install on a system with a Dell mobo

Even if he uses, say, a friend's retail XP disk and his legitimate, currently unused, former Dell key?

The information that the OEM version of the s/w will look for is IN the motherboard. It's not on a piece of paper attached to the motherboard. THAT is why Renob said it will only install on a system with a Dell mobo.

Clearly though, the retail version of XP does not look for that code, thus the only impediment should be wether or not XP will accept the Dell key.
...I think

And it won't.

So you're saying that a retail disk of XP will not accept a Dell key?

Just being clear here...

If that's the case, I'll accept it as a reasonable answer (although I'd like to do my own tests, but I'm not gonna get a dell to try it out).

I've tried it before, and it worked on the OLD systems, but P4-generation systems don't.

 

[CRXican]

Dell OEM versions of Windows XP will install on any system you want them too

trust me

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

BTW, Dell doesn't even include the XP reinstall disk with their computers anymore. What you get is a note telling you to use their System Restore software already installed. Oh, if you have trouble with the hard drive after the warranty has expired, you're OOL I guess. That how it is for laptops at least and I wouldn't be surprised to see it on desktops.

 

[Mail5398]

NO. NO. NO. Microsoft will personally send ninjas to your house to execute you. I tried to sell some OEM versions of windows 98se on egay that I had purchased and never used (still sealed never opened) and egay and microsnot both sent me e-mails saying I had to sell the software with the computer they were sold with.

... and yes I did the computer part deal. They still wouldn't let me sell them.

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: TexDotCom
The retail version will work fine on Dell, Gateway, Toshiba, etc. The Dell OEM version will only work on systems where it can find a valid Dell service tag number in the BIOS of the motherboard. The issue is not the CD key.

Correct,

However he doesnt' want to use the OEM XP DISK.

He wants to install a RETAIL XP DISK but when it asks for the serial # he wants to use the serial # on the Dell Sticker.

We know you cant use the DELL OEM XP DISK on a NON-DELL system. He is basically mixing and matching.

1) Install XP on another PC using a RETAIL XP CD
2) When installation asks for serial # he wants to use the Dell Serial #

I don't think the installation will accept the serial #. Even if it does I don't think it will pass the onlink activation/verification process without doing something illegal.