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DotheDamnTHing

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when, if ever, will we see these technologies in desktop computers?

64-bit intel pentium x processors?

16mb cache ide/sata hard drives?

much appreciated for any help as this will help me plan my next upgrade
 
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To answer your questions in order:

Late 2004, more likely 2005.
Not for a long time. More than 8MB of cache on a drive is essentially useless now.
Yes.

Please don't bump your own thread more than once every 4 hours (or until it falls off the front page, whichever is longer).
 
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Oops, Seagate is releasing a 400GB drive w/16MB cache soon. Still, I wouldn't base my decisions solely on how much cache a drive has.
 
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imported_chrisbtx

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: justin1466
aren't xeon's 64-bit (although they are server class)
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Nope.
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Actually I'm pretty sure they have 64-bit xeon processors... they just only operate in the 64-bit environment, unlike the Athlon 64 and the FX series, which do the 32-bit and 64-bit simultaneously.
 
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n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: chrisbtx
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: justin1466
aren't xeon's 64-bit (although they are server class)
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Nope.
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Actually I'm pretty sure they have 64-bit xeon processors... they just only operate in the 64-bit environment, unlike the Athlon 64 and the FX series, which do the 32-bit and 64-bit simultaneously.
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Do you mean itanium?
 
Chaotic42

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: chrisbtx
Actually I'm pretty sure they have 64-bit xeon processors... they just only operate in the 64-bit environment, unlike the Athlon 64 and the FX series, which do the 32-bit and 64-bit simultaneously.
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I haven't done an exhaustive search, but I haven't seen any information on a currently available 64-bit Xeon.

I could be wrong though.
 
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Vee

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Originally posted by: stevty2889
The xeons with 64 bit extensions are supposed to come out next week.
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The rap on them is that performance is poor. I think we'll have to wait for Intel's Prescott successor, for competition to AMD64.
 
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Originally posted by: stevty2889
The xeons with 64 bit extensions are supposed to come out next week.
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Yep June 28th (along with 2 speed bumps, a faster fsb, and likely the end of the low cached Xeons - it'll be fun to read the articles on these new chips with so many changes all at once). The P4 with 64-bit capabilities is said to come out as soon as Microsoft validates them (likely around October, give or take a month).

The 16 MB cache drives are on their way (recently announced). I don't know if that gives any benefit as I haven't seen the benchmarks.
 
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Originally posted by: beatle
To answer your questions in order:

Late 2004, more likely 2005.
Not for a long time. More than 8MB of cache on a drive is essentially useless now.
Yes.

Please don't bump your own thread more than once every 4 hours (or until it falls off the front page, whichever is longer).
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I think it's Toshiba that makes laptop hard drives with 16MB cache; they've been out for several months now.
 
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DotheDamnTHing

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i know scsi drives have 16mb cache and was wondering about regualr ide/sata drives but the tests seem to show that it does not provide a huge improvement
 
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DotheDamnTHing

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itll be nice to have a 64bit shootout between intel and amd on a proper 64bit platform rather than beta OSes
 
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Spamdini

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pci-e boards will be able to run pci cards?

as in if i have a x800 pro now and i buy a pci-e board i dont have to buy a pci-e version of the x800?

confused.
 
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Carbonadium4

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Originally posted by: Spamdini
pci-e boards will be able to run pci cards?

as in if i have a x800 pro now and i buy a pci-e board i dont have to buy a pci-e version of the x800?

confused.
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I believe so.. PCIe slot are differnet in size.. u can see the pics from the review
 
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DotheDamnTHing

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i meant the regular pci card that we use now..for example, a sound blaster or network card....these pci cards will work in a pci-e slot right?
 
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