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WHEN WILL THE US ATTACK IRAQ AND SHOULD THEY?

charrison

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Originally posted by: mindy999
I say Nov 6-10 right after the election..
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IRAQ NEWS AND INFO HERE
http://www.TargetIraq.com

Time for YAAI thread...
 

XMan

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Probably in the winter sometime, when the weather over there has cooled off. Should they? I don't think they should. I wish we'd pull back and concentrate on domestic defense instead of being the big green police machine around the world. :\
 

mindy999

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It's too hot now...the invading troops may need to be dressed in chemical warfare suits
 

shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Early next year. About the same time Desert Storm started. That is the best time of year over there to launch an attack. As for if we should do it? Hell yes. When we're through with Iraq we need to take out Iran, Syria, Lebanon, North Korea, and a few others.
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Early next year. About the same time Desert Storm started. That is the best time of year over there to launch an attack. As for if we should do it? Hell yes. When we're through with Iraq we need to take out Iran, Syria, Lebanon, North Korea, and a few others.

That's nice of you to commit our people to something. My brother and best friend are in the Army. I sure as hell don't want to lose them because of cowboy attitudes like yours. :disgust:
 

dribgnikcom

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That's nice of you to commit our people to something. My brother and best friend are in the Army. I sure as hell don't want to lose them because of cowboy attitudes like yours.

Then let him leave and I'll go in his place. If America was recruiting soldiers for a SERIOUS attack against Saudi Arabia and all the other corrupt Arabic regimes, I'm there.
 

Bluga

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Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Probably in the winter sometime, when the weather over there has cooled off. Should they? I don't think they should. I wish we'd pull back and concentrate on domestic defense instead of being the big green police machine around the world. :\

 

HappyPuppy

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You don't join the Army to sit safely in an air conditioned office. You join to blow things up and kill people. Unfortunately, sometimes you get killed or wounded in the process.

I doubt we will attack before next winter or spring because of weather conditions, at least concerning a ground attack. We could begin a concerted air assault at any time to take out their command and control and soften them up.

I don't think we should attack Iraq, I think we need to in order to preserve the balance of power in the Middle East. Yes, this also means insuring our continued flow of petroleum from that region.

IMO
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
You don't join the Army to sit safely in an air conditioned office. You join to blow things up and kill people. Unfortunately, sometimes you get killed or wounded in the process.

I doubt we will attack before next winter or spring because of weather conditions, at least concerning a ground attack. We could begin a concerted air assault at any time to take out their command and control and soften them up.

I don't think we should attack Iraq, I think we need to in order to preserve the balance of power in the Middle East. Yes, this also means insuring our continued flow of petroleum from that region.

IMO

Bullshit, my brother joined the Army to build bridges and earn money for college. Unfortunately engineers also get to clean up landmines. Iraq does not pose a clear and present danger to US interests - so why the hell should my brother be put in the firing line? So you guys can keep getting cheap gas? Fsck that. :|
 

Squisher

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Aug 17, 2000
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Should we?

I don't know, this is asking for the supreme sacrifice by our armed forces for a non-imminent threat.

 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
You don't join the Army to sit safely in an air conditioned office. You join to blow things up and kill people. Unfortunately, sometimes you get killed or wounded in the process.

I doubt we will attack before next winter or spring because of weather conditions, at least concerning a ground attack. We could begin a concerted air assault at any time to take out their command and control and soften them up.

I don't think we should attack Iraq, I think we need to in order to preserve the balance of power in the Middle East. Yes, this also means insuring our continued flow of petroleum from that region.

IMO

Bullshit, my brother joined the Army to build bridges and earn money for college. Unfortunately engineers also get to clean up landmines. Iraq does not pose a clear and present danger to US interests - so why the hell should my brother be put in the firing line? So you guys can keep getting cheap gas? Fsck that. :|

Fine, then he can go build bridges and earn money in Iraq. The money he earns there will be tax free. If you don't think that threatening the free flow of oil isn't a clear and present danger to the US, you are failing to see the big picture. It is vital to our economic security therefore our national security.

What's this sh!t about "you guys" getting cheap gas. You don't use gas?



 

Alphathree33

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Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy You don't join the Army to sit safely in an air conditioned office. You join to blow things up and kill people. Unfortunately, sometimes you get killed or wounded in the process. I doubt we will attack before next winter or spring because of weather conditions, at least concerning a ground attack. We could begin a concerted air assault at any time to take out their command and control and soften them up. I don't think we should attack Iraq, I think we need to in order to preserve the balance of power in the Middle East. Yes, this also means insuring our continued flow of petroleum from that region. IMO
Bullshit, my brother joined the Army to build bridges and earn money for college. Unfortunately engineers also get to clean up landmines. Iraq does not pose a clear and present danger to US interests - so why the hell should my brother be put in the firing line? So you guys can keep getting cheap gas? Fsck that. :|

If your brother joined the army voluntarily then he was willing to accept the risks that go with it.

Sorry, but your argument is moot.
 

XMan

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
You don't join the Army to sit safely in an air conditioned office. You join to blow things up and kill people. Unfortunately, sometimes you get killed or wounded in the process.

I doubt we will attack before next winter or spring because of weather conditions, at least concerning a ground attack. We could begin a concerted air assault at any time to take out their command and control and soften them up.

I don't think we should attack Iraq, I think we need to in order to preserve the balance of power in the Middle East. Yes, this also means insuring our continued flow of petroleum from that region.

IMO

Bullshit, my brother joined the Army to build bridges and earn money for college. Unfortunately engineers also get to clean up landmines. Iraq does not pose a clear and present danger to US interests - so why the hell should my brother be put in the firing line? So you guys can keep getting cheap gas? Fsck that. :|

Fine, then he can go build bridges and earn money in Iraq. The money he earns there will be tax free. If you don't think that threatening the free flow of oil isn't a clear and present danger to the US, you are failing to see the big picture. It is vital to our economic security therefore our national security.

What's this sh!t about "you guys" getting cheap gas. You don't use gas?

When has Saddam threatened to cut oil supplies to the United States? Much of his oil is used in Europe. And yes, I use gas, but I consider $1.50 a gallon to be pretty damn cheap, especially when it's so much more expensive in other countries.

 

Fausto

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I can't believe you people keep responding to such an obvious troll.
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UltraQuiet

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When has Saddam threatened to cut oil supplies to the United States? Much of his oil is used in Europe. And yes, I use gas, but I consider $1.50 a gallon to be pretty damn cheap, especially when it's so much more expensive in other countries.

Did you miss that thing called the Gulf War? Do you think that if he goes unchecked, is allowed to continue to develop his WMD that the next time he won't stop with Kuwait? Maybe he'll try his luck with Iran again? or Saudi Arabia? Yemen? Oman? What do you think that would do to the flow of oil? Should we wait until he is firmly ensconced in one of those countries, with a more advanced WMD, and have to throw him out? I would say the cost of that in casualties would be lots higher than a premptive strike. I won't mention the terrorists activities they have taken part in.

Personally I could give two sh!ts what they pay for gas somewhere else. I worry about what we pay for oil here. It affects the price of everything.
 

Miramonti

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Aug 26, 2000
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The only reason we'd attack Iraq is because Israel wants us to, since they are the most at risk.

Iraq is no risk to the US.

Why should we fight Israels battles for them? Let them handle the situation, since they obviously don't give a crap what we think about the way they handle their military anyways, even when they are enflaming the whole middle east region and provoking arab hostility with the way they are handling the palestinians.
 

shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Iraq is no risk to the US in the least, zero
Wrong. Iraq is an exporter of terrorism and gives a lot of funding to terrorist organizations. Also there are reports that Al Queda, as well as Hammas, have been setting up training camps in Iraq. Turn a blind eye to it if you want, but don't come crying to me when another attack like 9/11 happens and you lose a loved one as a result of it.
 

Martin

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Jan 15, 2000
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If the US attacks, it'll be the same time as desert storm, since poeple will be familiar with the weather and the setting.

As for should they, I dont like the idea of the US starting wars just because they feel like it, their only justification being some vague warnings. If you guys do start a war, I don't think anybody will be with you. Perhaps England, but I doubt it. And considering now everyone in the US supports the war, support for it could drop if its longer than a few months (which is highly likely).

 

shiner

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I don't think this attack will be based on vague warnings, there is rock solid proof that Iraq is developing WMD and is working towards a nuke. Do you want someone like Saddam possesing a nuke? I don't. Plus if they develop one they will most likely sale or give the technology to terrorist groups. Maybe the rest of the world won't be with us. Well to them I say F off and hope we remember their actions, or lack of, next time they come crying to us for something. I also doubt this war would take more than 3-4 months maximum.
 

Kadarin

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Nov 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: mindy999
It's too hot now...the invading troops may need to be dressed in chemical warfare suits

Good point. Last weekend I was on the phone with a guy in Kuwait City, and just for fun I asked him how the weather was over there. "Hot," he replied. I figure that when a guy who's from there says it's hot, it's pretty damn hot. According to Yahoo, it was 113 (F) there today, and it's supposed to get hotter...
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
I don't think this attack will be based on vague warnings, there is rock solid proof that Iraq is developing WMD and is working towards a nuke. Do you want someone like Saddam possesing a nuke? I don't. Plus if they develop one they will most likely sale or give the technology to terrorist groups. Maybe the rest of the world won't be with us. Well to them I say F off and hope we remember their actions, or lack of, next time they come crying to us for something. I also doubt this war would take more than 3-4 months maximum.

3-4 months? Perhaps, but if the iraqi army remains loyal and digs into the cities it could be much longer. And when CNN starts showing images of dead iraqi children blown apart by american bombs, what do you think will happen to support for the war?

This should be interesting to watch, nevertheless. We should make some bets when the war starts ;)
 

Miramonti

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Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Iraq is no risk to the US in the least, zero
Wrong. Iraq is an exporter of terrorism and gives a lot of funding to terrorist organizations. Also there are reports that Al Queda, as well as Hammas, have been setting up training camps in Iraq. Turn a blind eye to it if you want, but don't come crying to me when another attack like 9/11 happens and you lose a loved one as a result of it.

Its no surprise that they support the palestinians, as with most other arab countries.

And what about the "reports" of al queda in Iraq? What a crock. Gee that couldn't be leaked from 'an anonymous source' in this administration could it be? What a nice propaganda ploy to get americans to buy into it - lets see some substantiating evidence of this.

This is not an american issue, this is an Israeli issue.
 

shiner

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And when CNN starts showing images of dead iraqi children blown apart by american bombs, what do you think will happen to support for the war?
Well the crybaby left wingers that don't understand that people die in war will start whining.