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When will PC gaming take a leap forward?

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Zap Brannigan

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Is it me or do we keep getting the same old game repackaged with newer graphics?

UT2004 is the same as the 1999 version I played back then but with newer graphics and better sound. Ditto for HL-2 and all of their clones. Yet no one will clone X-Com for some reason.
 
"When will PC gamming take a leap forward?"

Soon as consumer tastes change or a developer comes along with the balls to be innovative.

If people buy it, they'll make it. Simple business practice 🙁

XCOM remake would rock eh? 🙂 Mem has some good info on a freeware remake and he has a thread on it somewhere here.
 
Well , maybe it would evolve if the PC game developpers finally decided to develop more game genres.By that i mean that they will need to stop concentrating on the FPS/RTS styles and venture into other territories.

Hell , we don't even have an online fightning game (like Tekken) for the PC yet !!!!!
 
UT2004 is the same as the 1999 version I played back then but with newer graphics and better sound.
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Not if you play Onslaught.

The industry is mostly focused on steady evolution these days, just like in every other form of media. More of the same, new and improved, is what sells in mass quantities to the buying public.

Look at the top 10 sales chart in almost every high-sales product category and you'll see the familiar. Oh look, it's another alphabet mystery from Sue Grafton, and a Jerry Bruckheimer braindead action movie.

Professional games cost several million these days, so the conglomerates can't justify much risk very often.
 
I thought HL2 took a leap forward for eye candy. Sure, gameplay is mostly the same, but how can it change? That's how it's supposed to be.
 
Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
Well , maybe it would evolve if the PC game developpers finally decided to develop more game genres.By that i mean that they will need to stop concentrating on the FPS/RTS styles and venture into other territories.

Hell , we don't even have an online fightning game (like Tekken) for the PC yet !!!!!
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a PC fighting game would be stupid. Keyboards do not lend themselves to them at all. You dont want to force someone to go out and buy a gamepad for a game.
 
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
Well , maybe it would evolve if the PC game developpers finally decided to develop more game genres.By that i mean that they will need to stop concentrating on the FPS/RTS styles and venture into other territories.

Hell , we don't even have an online fightning game (like Tekken) for the PC yet !!!!!
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a PC fighting game would be stupid. Keyboards do not lend themselves to them at all. You dont want to force someone to go out and buy a gamepad for a game.
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There are already many games out there that play much better with a gamepad than a keyboard (Prince of Persia , NHL 2005 come to mind) so i don't think that it would be an issue.

They could even package a controller with the game

 
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
Well , maybe it would evolve if the PC game developpers finally decided to develop more game genres.By that i mean that they will need to stop concentrating on the FPS/RTS styles and venture into other territories.

Hell , we don't even have an online fightning game (like Tekken) for the PC yet !!!!!
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a PC fighting game would be stupid. Keyboards do not lend themselves to them at all. You dont want to force someone to go out and buy a gamepad for a game.
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Then include the gamepad with the software.
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
Well , maybe it would evolve if the PC game developpers finally decided to develop more game genres.By that i mean that they will need to stop concentrating on the FPS/RTS styles and venture into other territories.

Hell , we don't even have an online fightning game (like Tekken) for the PC yet !!!!!
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a PC fighting game would be stupid. Keyboards do not lend themselves to them at all. You dont want to force someone to go out and buy a gamepad for a game.
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Then include the gamepad with the software.
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"NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE!"
 
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
Well , maybe it would evolve if the PC game developpers finally decided to develop more game genres.By that i mean that they will need to stop concentrating on the FPS/RTS styles and venture into other territories.

Hell , we don't even have an online fightning game (like Tekken) for the PC yet !!!!!
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a PC fighting game would be stupid. Keyboards do not lend themselves to them at all. You dont want to force someone to go out and buy a gamepad for a game.
Click to expand...

Then include the gamepad with the software.
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"NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE!"
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Seen it done.
 
There has been an original idea for a game in a long time. Everything just increases in scale.....more weapons, better graphics, better sound, more enemies....etc. Hell, HL2 is just Wolfenstein 3D applified.

Same with music. Have you heard an original chord or riff in over 20 years? No.....but the artists keep getting prettier and the CD labels get shinier and the music videos now cost millions.

I, for one, was rooting for rap-rock, so I'm also rooting for hybrid games. Imagine you're playing R:TW and after you use the turn based part to setup a battle, then issue order in the real time section, you get to then assume the role of a single soldier and fight in the battle. Now, take the whole thing MMO and when the battle's over, go to your guild house and hang out or pillage the fallen for spare change...etc. But games like Savage and Battlezone that try to merge the two haven't succeeded.
 
Originally posted by: Zap Brannigan
Is it me or do we keep getting the same old game repackaged with newer graphics?

UT2004 is the same as the 1999 version I played back then but with newer graphics and better sound. Ditto for HL-2 and all of their clones. Yet no one will clone X-Com for some reason.
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The new games might look old and repackaged to you ..... but just remember for every year you grow older comes another year where young snot nosed kids get exposed to RTSs, FPSs and RPGs for the first time..... and they think they are the coolest thing since Pez and Spongebob. So, in reply to your point, you will be playing Warcraft 15 when your 60 years old.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

I, for one, was rooting for rap-rock, so I'm also rooting for hybrid games.
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I agree with HeroOfPellinor; new game genres are hard to realize due to consumer taste, so asking PC gamming to leap forward is basically asking for RTS/RPG or FPS/RTS and etc. Mixing the popular genres to create a new game, if not repackaging old genres, is the most strategic move for developers.
 
I thought Savage was a brilliant hybrid, and totally ruined by the fact that one player controlled the others and that one player was almost always a complete moron. Minus the moron, it's a cool game. RTS/FPS/RPG.
 
Originally posted by: malak
I thought HL2 took a leap forward for eye candy. Sure, gameplay is mostly the same, but how can it change? That's how it's supposed to be.
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What I'm saying is; there needs to be some new ideas for games.

The only new game in the past 5 years that I know of has been The Sims. Everything has else has been mainly the same house with new paint.

Surely we can't be the only ones who like variety and new concepts.
 
What are you expecting? That's like asking when will the movie industry make a leap forward? All movies are the same to me - they have a protagonist, antagonist, climax, and ending....
 
Originally posted by: Alternex
What are you expecting? That's like asking when will the movie industry make a leap forward? All movies are the same to me - they have a protagonist, antagonist, climax, and ending....
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Hehe, if you want Calculon to race to the laser gun battle in his hover Ferrarri, press 1 . . .
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Alternex
What are you expecting? That's like asking when will the movie industry make a leap forward? All movies are the same to me - they have a protagonist, antagonist, climax, and ending....
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Hehe, if you want Calculon to race to the laser gun battle in his hover Ferrarri, press 1 . . .
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A winner is you!
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
...But games like Savage and battlezone that try to merge the two haven't succeeded.
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I still consider Battlezone to be a "must play" game, and certainly in it's time.

I've longed for games to offer cooperative and team modes since long before Contra for SNES was around, so it's impossible for me to agree that there's no progress. I would agree though, that corporate mentality has muddied the progress of the sequel to most every game I've loved.

Even so, there are some hits and misses, and I still have hope that someone is trying to get it right, rather than just harvest a bunch of p2p subscriptions.

 
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