When will companies learn people first, profits last.

DCal430

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Today all companies care about are profits. How to make more money for them self. How to cheat out their employees and the consumers. The bottom line is all they see now. That is why we had this banking crisis. That is why we had Enron, WorldCom, and Madoff. Because people put profits before humanity and society.

Companies need to learn the most import thing in order are:

1. Your employees
2. The consumers
3. Your supplies employees
4. The rest of society
5. The rest of the planet
....
LAST: Profits

Profits are the least important thing.
 

PeshakJang

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Today all companies care about are profits. How to make more money for them self. How to cheat out their employees and the consumers. The bottom line is all they see now. That is why we had this banking crisis. That is why we had Enron, WorldCom, and Madoff. Because people put profits before humanity and society.

Companies need to learn the most import thing in order are:

1. Your employees
2. The consumers
3. Your supplies employees
4. The rest of society
5. The rest of the planet
....
LAST: Profits

Profits are the least important thing.

I hope you go into a coma before you are old enough to vote.
 

MotF Bane

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Remember when you finish middle school, take economics if your high school offers it. Then everything will make much more sense to you.
 

Vic Vega

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Today all companies care about are profits. How to make more money for them self. How to cheat out their employees and the consumers. The bottom line is all they see now. That is why we had this banking crisis. That is why we had Enron, WorldCom, and Madoff. Because people put profits before humanity and society.

Companies need to learn the most import thing in order are:

1. Your employees
2. The consumers
3. Your supplies employees
4. The rest of society
5. The rest of the planet
....
LAST: Profits

Profits are the least important thing.

Hypothetical:

Toyota decides the current Prius isn't efficient enough and Toyota engineers believe they can double the MPG rating of the vehicle but it will cost the company a billion dollars in research and development.

Since the company only broke even because they minimized profit and maximized employee pay they can't afford to make this new technology.

Fast forward 10 years. Toyota hasn't made a profit in 10 years and their vehicle designs are aging, sales are down because of this but they can't afford to create new designs, they simply don't have the money because profit hasn't been their priority. They only have enough money to keep their existing business running. Unfortunately their revenue is down because of the poor sales and now they have to let 10,000 workers go because they can't afford to pay them.

Yeah... profit is a bad thing. D:
 

JSt0rm

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1. Customers
2. investment
3. employees
4. profits

Thats how it actually works.
 

DCal430

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Remember when you finish middle school, take economics if your high school offers it. Then everything will make much more sense to you.

I have taken multiple college courses in economics, I also took classes in sociology where I learned the true evil of a profit driven society.
 

Ronstang

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I have taken multiple college courses in economics, I also took classes in sociology where I learned the true evil of a profit driven society.

Sounds more like your typical indoctrination. Are your parents as dumb as you or do you see them as "evil ones" also?
 

DucatiMonster696

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Without profits you have no customers, no investments, no employees. If you aren't making a profit as a business you fail big time. In essence profits are the main reason why you would value your (paying and regular) customers, value your profitable investments, and continue to hire or retain skilled employees to ensure your profit margins don't go south. So in the end "profit" is considered in the business world to be the Alpha and the Omega. Anything else is meaningless tripe if you are not turning a PROFIT.
 
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MotF Bane

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I have taken multiple college courses in economics, I also took classes in sociology where I learned the true evil of a profit driven society.

You didn't actually take a real course in sociology, did you? A real course for sociology is actually quite good; but not when it's taught by some disaffected professor who just takes advantage of their bully pulpit to spew their ignorant drivel to impressionable young fools.

Tell me then -
What are the three classes of feminism?
What is role exit?
What are the primary socioeconomic classes, and how are they delineated?
What bias can be found in the observation method?

Although I'm sure you can look these up rather easily.
 

MotF Bane

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That my parents were brainwashed to be capitalist like you?

No. That your parents actually live in the real world, unlike you. They have bills to pay, including all of yours, since I would wager that you either still live in their house, or you live on campus - my bet would be on campus. You have never had to worry about bills for anything, you do not consider where the money comes from, or what they have to do to earn it. There is a strong likelihood you never had a job during high school, and you almost certainly do not have a job now.
 

Ape

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Profits are least importance? Uh, if they don't concentrate on profits they won't stay in business, give raises, innovate, expand, etc.
 

wuliheron

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As is usually the case with any individual or group the issue as often as not is bad habits they've acquired rather then their being ignorant or stupid.
 

MotF Bane

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You see, DCal430, I've taken two sociology courses. One was taught in high school. The book was... oh, I do believe it was "Introduction to Sociology", although I cannot recall exactly anymore. The content was entirely from the book. The teacher didn't lecture us about his own view of the world. That is a real sociology course. We were given the basic understanding of sociology, given the tools, and told to think, to make up our own minds.

The second last a mere two weeks before I dropped the class, realizing that it would not be an easy fulfillment of a requirement, and that he wasn't actually interested in teaching. We had to buy his books, garbage to the tune of "Power: A Critical Reader," and listen to lectures of hate and vitriol, laced with politics, and devoid of any real education relevant to sociology. It was an attempted indoctrination to his world of hate, a table in front of a class for a bitter man to spew his foolishness while he cowered away from the real world.
 

waggy

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why the fuck would I as a business owner take all the risk? the reason i did it was to make money and not to put people in employment or to help the public. thats fucking stupid.

I take the risk. i get the reward.
 

nonlnear

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Me and my parents do not talks politics, only arguing ensues.
Your parents are apparently very patient. A more self-interested set of parents would have kicked you to the curb. Maybe one day you'll realize they are actually paragons of virtue and you are, well, you.
 

MovingTarget

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Profits are important, but the ends don't always justify the means. You don't screw over your customers, your employees, or your community in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. That used to be the American way. It isn't anymore...and look where that shortsightedness has gotten us.
 

DCal430

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You didn't actually take a real course in sociology, did you? A real course for sociology is actually quite good; but not when it's taught by some disaffected professor who just takes advantage of their bully pulpit to spew their ignorant drivel to impressionable young fools.

Tell me then -
What are the three classes of feminism?
What is role exit?
What are the primary socioeconomic classes, and how are they delineated?
What bias can be found in the observation method?

Although I'm sure you can look these up rather easily.

I never took a regular intro to sociology class. The two sociology classes were

Sociology of Race and Ethnicity: here I learned the truth about race and ethnic groups. How race is a man made idea, and that we are all one people. How people are divided by arbitrary lines created by men for their own benefits. The only reason I am well to do, while a child in Africa is dying of starvation is because of these arbitrary lines that men drew.

Sociology of Food: Here we learned the truth about free trade. Free trade was actually slave trade. How people like the IMF and World Bank exploit the poor countries like loan sharks. How so much of what we consume was actually grown using slave labor for these big food corporations. That companies like Sodexo and Monsanto were among the most evil of evil companies. How people in poor countries are dying of starvation because food companies are exploiting them for higher profits.
 

Zebo

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A large part of our current problems is a moral breakdown. Our entire system is no longer focused on fair play or treating fellow citizens like you would like to be treated. Instead it has devolved to a rat eat rat system where anything goes as long as you win AND you can keep your spoils however you got them. (see bankers bonuses off tax payer dollars)

Pure mathematics is a nice skill to have but I don't live for it. I live for Sunday pikniks with friends and family, seeing smiles on peoples faces instead of despair, etc.
 

Zebo

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Without profits you don't have a company. How is that good for the employees ?????

Cuts both ways. Without demand you have no customers and no profit. Demand comes from the bottom up. Would you rather have a liquor store across the street from a Ford plant where everyone was making 100K or a sweat shop where people had no choices? Henry Ford understood this and most capitalists of his era.