When will AMD go to btx/pci express?

[mrgoblin]

I havent heard anything frmo the amd camp about all the new standards. It would be foolish to buy an amd product that is behind when pci express is on intel mobos on btx. Anyone got any info?

 

[Budman]

1 year,3 months,7 days,12 hours ,45 min, 38 seconds from now.

 

[sman789]

Originally posted by: Budman
1 year,3 months,7 days,12 hours ,45 min, 38 seconds from now.

that's when the world will end....
we will get info on this a week after

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: sman789

Originally posted by: Budman
1 year,3 months,7 days,12 hours ,45 min, 38 seconds from now.

that's when the world will end....
we will get info on this a week after

Yeah I forgot,I always mix up those 2 dates.

 

[mrgoblin]

Anyone else who hasnt had too much coffee ice cream wanna answer my question?

 

[mrgoblin]

Anyone else who hasnt had too much coffee ice cream wanna answer my question?

 

[Cerb]

When they need to. At the moment either would be near useless, however, PCI Express I believe is in the way for them. BTX is really more up to the mobo makers.
Also, google is your friend. This was the 1st hit:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9025

 

[Tab]

How could they say no to PCI-Express? :Q

 

[zephyrprime]

Aren't these two issue really up to the chipset makers (for pcix) and the MB makers (for btx)?

 

[Cerb]

Yes, and AMD makes chipsets.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Aren't these two issue really up to the chipset makers (for pcix) and the MB makers (for btx)?

Yes. AMD might make some recommendations as to how their systems should differ from Intels' setup(if need be), but I don't think AMD will necessarily "go BTX".

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: mrgoblin
Anyone else who hasnt had too much coffee ice cream wanna answer my question?

I mean COME ON !! use your mind, how can any one know what will happen. just take a 10 sec break & think about it. How can I or anyone know the future?

Just use your common sence man, AMD will adopt BTX when it's an adopted form factor. you cant expect anyone to know,it's impossible.

AMD will use it it when everybody uses it.

 

[Cogman]

really, As I understand it, BTX is nothing more then a motherboard enginering design. just like atx. It has nothing to do with AMD other then the fact that It will make systems run faster. PCI Express is going to be very nice. Being able to run the Old PCI cards and the New PCI cards in the same slot, I dont see why MoBo manufactures would wait to long after the standards are fully released. IMHO BTX is nothing more then a Mod ATX. the only Major diffrence is that it has PCI Express slots. I dont see why they did not give a big rename for ATX boards back when ISA support was dropped

 

[Budman]

it's evolution.

AT
ATX
BTX
CTX
DXT
ETX
FTX
GTX
HTX
ITX
JTX
KTX
LTX
MTX
NTX
OTX
PTX
QTX
RTX
STX
TTX
UTX
VTX
WTX
XTX
YTX
ZTX

after that you'll be long dead.

I am the form factor Moore's law .

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: Budman
it's evolution.

AT
ATX
BTX
CTX
DXT
ETX
FTX
GTX
HTX
ITX
JTX
KTX
LTX
MTX
NTX
OTX
PTX
QTX
RTX
STX
TTX
UTX
VTX
WTX
XTX
YTX
ZTX

after that you'll be long dead.

I am the form factor Moore's law .

LMAO

 

[LordOfAll]

actually there is already a wtx standard. it is for workstation boards.

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: Budman
it's evolution.

AT
ATX
BTX
CTX
DXT
ETX
FTX
GTX
HTX
ITX
JTX
KTX
LTX
MTX
NTX
OTX
PTX
QTX
RTX
STX
TTX
UTX
VTX
WTX
XTX
YTX
ZTX

after that you'll be long dead.

I am the form factor Moore's law .

I think it should be more like:

AT
ATX
BT
BTX
CT
CTX
DT
DXT
ET ( This would be cool )
ETX
FT
FTX
GT (This one too )
GTX
HT (Intel might get annoyed at this one)
HTX
IT (Hmm)
ITX
JT
JTX
KT
KTX
LT
LTX
MT
MTX
NT (Microsoft might get picky on this one...)
NTX
OT (Popular with anandtech ot'rs, possibly? )
OTX
PT
PTX
QT
QTX
RT
RTX
ST
STX
TT
TTX
UT
UTX
VT
VTX
WT
WTX
XT
XTX
YT
YTX
ZT
ZTX

 

[beatle]

There's already a WTX form factor.

 

[SithSolo1]

Apparently I'm the only one that noticed Budman put DXT instead of DTX. :Q

 

[Cygni]

BTX seems totally unneeded to me, and i certainly plan on avoiding it as long as i can. As far as PCI-EX... that falls into the same catagory, if you ask me. PCI-EX 1x? Yee haw. Thats deffinitly worth killing the ability to use legacy devices.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Apparently I'm the only one that noticed Budman put DXT instead of DTX. :Q

Yes, you are

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: SithSolo1 Apparently I'm the only one that noticed Budman put DXT instead of DTX. :Q

Yes, you are

And Danny copied him .

 

[alexruiz]

Why should you not buy a CPU because it doesn't fit a new case standard???

So, if someone develops a processor 300% more powerful than the Opteron you wouldn't buy it if the only Mobos for it are AT??

Regardless, with power consumption nowhere close to 100 W, AMD can still fit in ATX cases without much problem. Besides, as someone pointed, that is up to the MoBo makers....

PCI express is up to the chipset manufacturers, who should make a better job now that they don't have to worry about memory controllers.

 

[AdmiralTiger]

Originally posted by: Cogman
really, As I understand it, BTX is nothing more then a motherboard enginering design. just like atx. It has nothing to do with AMD other then the fact that It will make systems run faster. PCI Express is going to be very nice. Being able to run the Old PCI cards and the New PCI cards in the same slot, I dont see why MoBo manufactures would wait to long after the standards are fully released. IMHO BTX is nothing more then a Mod ATX. the only Major diffrence is that it has PCI Express slots. I dont see why they did not give a big rename for ATX boards back when ISA support was dropped

Nuh-uh - Old PCI cards and new pci cards in the same slot.. for PCI-Express? I don't think so. PCI Express isn't backward-compatible with old PCI cards (legacy PCI's) - there will be a time when PCI Express and 33-bit PCI slots co-exist - but it won't be for long though.. maybe a year or two before it's phased out (compared to god-knows-how-long the transition from ISA to PCI) - PCI-X on the other hand IS backward-compatible to PCI, however it's for use in servers, not workstations. Thought I'd clarify this.

 

[draggoon01]

Originally posted by: Cygni
BTX seems totally unneeded to me, and i certainly plan on avoiding it as long as i can. As far as PCI-EX... that falls into the same catagory, if you ask me. PCI-EX 1x? Yee haw. Thats deffinitly worth killing the ability to use legacy devices.

i agree. the biggest reason for the new standard seems to be cooling. but i don't see how much of a difference BTX will make and it'll be a while before we find out.

since they are bringing in a new form factor, i would hope they truly axe everything legacy--there will probably never be a better opportunity to do so. axe parallel ata, serial/parallel ports, floppy. for legacy hardware, buy usb adapters. being able to plug the same device into different things and being truly universal would be great (ex: keyboard into comp and pda. or better possibilities in future). add the new bios replacement. but alas, i doubt this will happen. companies would rather make a mess of connections for legacy support in hopes of grabbing the almighty marketshare... look at what happened with abit maxx mobo.

this is also good time to make other things standard: front ports on cases, temp controlled fans, standard block connector from case to mobo (and if any new connectors are needed, just add them to make a longer block). can't think of anything else