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JEDIYoda

JEDIYoda

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OccamsToothbrush said:
Of course it's true. You're so terrified of the great mass murderer you pretend to believe in that you won't even question him on his broken promises and failures.
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So you want something for nothing in return?
Sounds like you are terified to admit that we have a responsibility to feed the hungry and comfort the hurting....etc.....
To take care of the less fortunate...…
It`s to easy and by the way a total cop out to say -- there is no Jesus because all these bad things are happenning in the world....
 
BudAshes

BudAshes

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JEDIYoda said:
See how you turn that around....
Yet say there is no god....
Then whose responsibility is it to address the homeless issues? The Hunger issues? Diseass….etc....
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I didn't say there is no god. Atheist can be a full of folly as any religious man. But my tolerance for bullshit gets lower the older I get.
 
WelshBloke

WelshBloke

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JEDIYoda said:
It`s to easy and by the way a total cop out to say -- there is no Jesus because all these bad things are happenning in the world....
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It's pretty easy to say that there is Jesus/God/FlyingSpagettiMonster in the world but they are all mysterious and you can't actually see them or feel them unless you really believe in them and even then you cant show any evidence of it.

I mean that's a proper cop out.
 
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whm1974

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BudAshes said:
If even a Jesus selfie doesn't prove his existence to you then you may just be beyond saving.
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That wasn't a Jesus selfie. That is a pic from a prayer card. And as said, Humans not need saving as they were not damned in the place.
 
JEDIYoda

JEDIYoda

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whm1974 said:
No it doesn't depend on a persons point of view.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: It is a fact that dead people don't rise from being dead.

There isn't any afterlife either.
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We know where this goes....you prove there is an after life....no you prove there isn`t an afterlife.
I guess we will all know the truth when we are 6 ft under...lololol
 
BudAshes

BudAshes

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whm1974 said:
That wasn't a Jesus selfie. That is a pic from a prayer card. And as said, Humans not need saving as they were not damned in the place.
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whm1974

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JEDIYoda said:
We know where this goes....you prove there is an after life....no you prove there isn`t an afterlife.
I guess we will all know the truth when we are 6 ft under...lololol
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We are completely gone when once we reach brain death.:rolleyes: We already know the truth.

And guys like you always assert that is an Afterlife without a shred of evidence. I don't have to prove that there isn't an afterlife, it is up to folks such as you that need to meet the Burden of Proof.

Burden of proof (philosophy) - Wikipedia

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WelshBloke

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JEDIYoda said:
We know where this goes....you prove there is an after life....no you prove there isn`t an afterlife.
I guess we will all know the truth when we are 6 ft under...lololol
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That isn't where it goes and its a totally disingenuous argument.

If you accept the "everything is true until you prove it isn't" thing then where do you draw the line? Are you arguing that unicorns exist? That Thor makes the lightning?

You cant use the "you didn't prove me wrong" argument unless you actually bring forth something that can be proven either way.
 
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JEDIYoda

JEDIYoda

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WelshBloke said:
That isn't where it goes and its a totally disingenuous argument.

If you accept the "everything is true until you prove it isn't" thing then where do you draw the line? Are you arguing that unicorns exist? That Thor makes the lightning?

You cant use the "you didn't prove me wrong" argument unless you actually bring forth something that can be proven either way.
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I am sorry you don`t make the rules......
Your the one who brought it up first so it really does go this way -- you prove there is no life after death and since you cannot prove that there is no0 life after death...you attempt to throw the ball back in my court by saying No!1 You prove there is life after death.....
Since neither one of us can prove the other person wrong -- it keeps going around and around...lolol
But that is OK!! Jesus still loves you!! Regardless if it is a Mexican guy or not.....
 
JEDIYoda

JEDIYoda

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I started this thread knowing full well where it would go or what it would devolve into...….

I was right and that is why I really have no skin in this game because I have seen this on ATOT ever since I joined.....
Prove there is no God?
No you prove there is a God?
Oh...BTW where did i say that either one of us proved the other was wrong???
Peace on Earth!
 
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Scarpozzi

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JEDIYoda said:
I started this thread knowing full well where it would go or what it would devolve into...….

I was right and that is why I really have no skin in this game because I have seen this on ATOT ever since I joined.....
Prove there is no God?
No you prove there is a God?
Oh...BTW where did i say that either one of us proved the other was wrong???
Peace on Earth!
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The whole world needs more Jesus!
 
1prophet

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whm1974 said:
We are completely gone when once we reach brain death.:rolleyes: We already know the truth.

And guys like you always assert that is an Afterlife without a shred of evidence. I don't have to prove that there isn't an afterlife, it is up to folks such as you that need to meet the Burden of Proof.

Burden of proof (philosophy) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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Many atheists ask for evidence of god, the supernatural, afterlife, etc., so what shred of evidence proving the existence of an Afterlife will be considered satisfactory outside of your own personal experience with death, would it be something like this former atheist says he experienced or something else.

 
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whm1974

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1prophet said:
Many atheists ask for evidence of god, the supernatural, afterlife, etc., so what shred of evidence proving the existence of an Afterlife will be considered satisfactory outside of your own personal experience with death, would it be something like this former atheist says he experienced or something else.

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Near Death Experiences are very common and what or who you see is very cultural specific. Atheist are simply folks who lack any god beliefs, nothing more.
 
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whm1974 said:
Near Death Experiences are very common and what or who you see is very cultural specific. Atheist are simply folks who lack any god beliefs, nothing more.
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As for lack silly
 
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Scarpozzi

Scarpozzi

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whm1974 said:
Near Death Experiences are very common and what or who you see is very cultural specific. Atheist are simply folks who lack any god beliefs, nothing more.
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So what you're saying is Athiests worship Satan, right?
 
Zanovar

Zanovar

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I got a bit weird there and post 45? lack silly
 
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