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When vista, if you build a new system would you buy it or xp?
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Sureshot324
Diamond Member
I will stick with Xp until I see a good reason to switch.
Red Squirrel
No Lifer
I'll stick to win2k, I hate XP, and longhorn will be even worse... I'll give it a try though, but I doubt I'll use it. Not to mention the DMCA and DRM crap which will control what apps you can install... that's not right at all.
Nothinman
Elite Member
DRM could be used to guarantee that any binaries on the system are signed by MS (or someone else, depending on how they do it) and as such 'secure' and allowed to run. Any binary that fails to be signed would not be allowed to run because it could compromise the system. Whether this is enabled by default or implemented at all, I don't know. This sort of technology is a good thing, the problem will be how corporations find ways to abuse it.
Personally, I never upgrade an OS until the "newer/better OS" :roll: matures to the point that it is stable (i.e. at least 1 service pack is released) and I need to upgrade.
Vista sounded awesome initially, but the closer it gets to release it is starting to sound really pathetic. Sure the GUI has some "nifty" features, but what about the real features that the OS was suppossed to feature. 64 bits is now optional, no new file system, OpenGL is being outcast (unsure if this 100% confirmed) and the DRM aspect scares me. It almost sounds like WIN95 all over again. Win95 was suppossed to be true 32 bit and not built on a "DOS" layer (like the win 3.x series). Of course, the 9x series was built on DOS, and we had to wait for WinXP/2000 to get away from it. WinNT4 was not built on DOS, but it was a bitch to work with when using legacy devices (ISA), had half-ass Plug and Play, and no USB support.
I haven't heard anything yet about the liscensing/activation features of the Vistas either. I'm not endorsing piracy (that would be bad), but I friggin hate calling MS everytime I feel like reinstalling my OS or commiting a major system upgrade (motherboards for example).
Vista sounded awesome initially, but the closer it gets to release it is starting to sound really pathetic. Sure the GUI has some "nifty" features, but what about the real features that the OS was suppossed to feature. 64 bits is now optional, no new file system, OpenGL is being outcast (unsure if this 100% confirmed) and the DRM aspect scares me. It almost sounds like WIN95 all over again. Win95 was suppossed to be true 32 bit and not built on a "DOS" layer (like the win 3.x series). Of course, the 9x series was built on DOS, and we had to wait for WinXP/2000 to get away from it. WinNT4 was not built on DOS, but it was a bitch to work with when using legacy devices (ISA), had half-ass Plug and Play, and no USB support.
I haven't heard anything yet about the liscensing/activation features of the Vistas either. I'm not endorsing piracy (that would be bad), but I friggin hate calling MS everytime I feel like reinstalling my OS or commiting a major system upgrade (motherboards for example).
Nothinman
Elite Member
64-bit support is still largely irrelevant. Most software will see no benefit from the additional VM space and most manufacturers still haven't been releasing drivers.
WinFS was changed from a full DB filesystem quite some time ago, but I don't really see why that's a big deal. Fixing the Indexing service they already have would have taken care of what 90% of people wanted from WinFS anyway, Beagle is a good example of an good indexing service that doesn't require any kernel-level changes.
OpenGL has always been a second class citizen in MS' eyes, why would they want you using it when they provide D3D?
DRM will be there no matter what, if Vista got pushed back another year or so I'm sure MS would have added the DRM components to a XP SP or at least an optional download that would be required to view some content on their site.
ISA devices were a PITA no matter what OS was used and PnP works just fine as long as you use a bus that does it right, like PCI. No USB support does kinda kill it's usefulness these days, but back then USB wasn't anywhere near as popular as it is now.
If anything it'll get worse, MS has found that most people don't mind activation as it is now so imposing some more rules will probably not piss off many people.
sourceninja
Diamond Member
I only have a copy of windows xp now for the very very rare cases where I want ot play a game cedega doesn't support. So until game scome out that will not run on XP, I wont be buying.
WinFS is both a file system and a metadata storage technology. In fact, WinFS does use SQL.
You can store files straight into WinFS, or use NTFS as the backing with just the file metadata exposed via WinFS. WinFS also has objects that would have been meaningless to NTFS, such as People, Resources (Calendars and the like), etc.
WinFS is not just about searching, but relationships and an change once, apply everywhere. It is also about synchronization using Microsoft RAVE -- either between two stores on the same computer or multiple WinFS stores over the network.
According to the WinFS group, WinFS may still becomes an outright replacement to NTFS.
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