When Trump loses, and calls for violence...

MtnMan

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When Trump loses in a few weeks, it is a certainty he will get on his minor social site and call for violence by his supporters.

We know he is going to go into an ALL CAPS rage on his failing truth social, and will call for his cult to rise up against election boards, secretaries of state in individual states, and anyone else he can think to blame.

Where does his "free speech" to call for an armed uprising stop? There are laws...

18 U.S. Code § 2101 - Riots​


(a)Whoever travels in interstate or foreign commerce or uses any facility of interstate or foreign commerce, including, but not limited to, the mail, telegraph, telephone, radio, or television, with intent—

(1) to incite a riot; or
(2) to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot; or
(3)to commit any act of violence in furtherance of a riot; or
(4)to aid or abet any person in inciting or participating in or carrying on a riot or committing any act of violence in furtherance of a riot;
and who either during the course of any such travel or use or thereafter performs or attempts to perform any other overt act for any purpose specified in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), or (D) of this paragraph— [1]
Shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

I'm sure there are agencies that could immediately shut down truth social, his most likely megaphone to call for violence, as soon as he makes the call. If it kept his fat ass out of prison, he really doesn't care how many people die to accomplish that end.

Would it even matter how badly he loses, winning only a handful of fly over states, he will be screaming about how he won, and the democrats cheat.

The first week in November is going to be interesting, and I suspect a very black mark on the country's history.
 
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Jaskalas

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I'm sure there are agencies that could immediately shut down truth social, his most likely megaphone to call for violence, as soon as he makes the call.
It would be a dereliction of duty if we do not have an agency with an employee whose hand is over a trigger button to shut it down. With another watching each new rage filled "Truth" and "Tweet".
OTOH, the message WILL go out one way or another.
Hell, Trump himself may not even need to do anything. His minions already know what to do. And if he does not call for unrest, others will do so in his stead. And we do not really know what form it will take either. I expect random acts that they do not direct. While the actual effort will be a campaign of force and intimidation on the certification process every step of the way.

They will do everything to question the legitimacy of the election and the new President. To call it fake, to call the inauguration fake.
Takes a lot of imagination to wonder where it would go from there.
 
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trenchfoot

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The peaceful handover of power, of which is a hallmark of successful democracies is obviously in jeopardy should Trump win and institutes his fascist reformation campaign. However, what's even more dangerous than that are those folks who think it's well worth the risk to fuck around, put him in office and find out what happens. These same folks have for many years completely ignored all of the blatantly obvious signs that directly points to Trump's inhumanity, his total lack of morals and ethics and his penchant for committing crimes with such ease, recklessness and utter contempt for the Rule of Law. And these are the very same folks who think they absolutely know what they're doing is what's best for the nation because party before country was and is their highest priority.

These people have abandoned their situational awareness, their basic survival instincts, their common sense, their own morals, ethics and religious piety in order to install a known felon and rapist to the highest office of the land. There's no logical way to make any sense out of the pathological path these people are taking. That they've been brain fucked into thinking what they're doing is right despite the preponderance of irrefutable factual evidence to the contrary is psychological wizardry in it's highest form of execution. And those fuckers who've executed this travesty are going to make fortunes for themselves at the expense of the very people who got suckered into enabling them via pampering and stroking their very useful brain addled Moron-in-Chief.
 
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dank69

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A bunch of his supporters going Red Dawn would be the best thing to happen to this country in a long time. The more the better. They'll all be swiftly dealt with, and we'll end up with that many fewer jackasses voting for our demise.
 
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When Trump loses in a few weeks, it is a certainty he will get on his minor social site and call for violence by his supporters.

We know he is going to go into an ALL CAPS rage on his failing truth social, and will call for his cult to rise up against election boards, secretaries of state in individual states, and anyone else he can think to blame.

Where does his "free speech" to call for an armed uprising stop? There are laws...



I'm sure there are agencies that could immediately shut down truth social, his most likely megaphone to call for violence, as soon as he makes the call. If it kept his fat ass out of prison, he really doesn't care how many people die to accomplish that end.

Would it even matter how badly he loses, winning only a handful of fly over states, he will be screaming about how he won, and the democrats cheat.

The first week in November is going to be interesting, and I suspect a very black mark on the country's history.
First I am not so sure he loses, electoral college is rigged against democrats plus god knows what MAGA governors or congress critters will do.
I am very confident *if* he loses elected republicans will turn against him. He will be far too old to be a viable candidate and we and them all know he will never stop running for president he enjoys the cheers and attention too much. Hopefully the wise up and stop propping him up. That will finally allow consequences to the former presidents shitty and illegal behaviors.
 
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dank69

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First I am not so sure he loses, electoral college is rigged against democrats plus god knows what MAGA governors or congress critters will do.
I am very confident *if* he loses elected republicans will turn against him. He will be far too old to be a viable candidate and we and them all know he will never stop running for president he enjoys the cheers and attention too much. Hopefully the wise up and stop propping him up. That will finally allow consequences to the former presidents shitty and illegal behaviors.
I think we're going to see the same results we saw in 2020 and 2022, and most of the special elections along the way where Dems outperform the polls significantly. I wish I could say I am confident in this though. I won't be surprised if Trump wins, just disappointed. I can't gauge how much racism and misogyny will affect the outcome. This was the risk introduced by switching from Biden. I hope the country has progressed enough to overcome it. I like to think it has, but then I see constant reminders of how stupid people can be.

I asked a Trump supporter I golf with if he thinks it's likely Trump or Kamala will win. He doesn't think there is any way Kamala can win. He doesn't think it will be close and even thinks Trump will win the popular vote. So yeah, pretty delusional. If Trump wins it is going to be by a razor-thin margin.
 

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I asked a Trump supporter I golf with if he thinks it's likely Trump or Kamala will win. He doesn't think there is any way Kamala can win. He doesn't think it will be close and even thinks Trump will win the popular vote. So yeah, pretty delusional. If Trump wins it is going to be by a razor-thin margin.

I certainly don't know what's going to happen in the election but this kind of attitude reminds me more of Clinton supporters in 2016 than anything.
 

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We need more Ashli Babbitts. In fact, there should have been way more just on J6.
Right. With all the 2A people and stand your ground the police were completely in their right to do so..

But what I remember was the police did not have enough numbers to be that effective so it probably was the right thing to do otherwise more police could have been killed
 

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Right. With all the 2A people and stand your ground the police were completely in their right to do so..

But what I remember was the police did not have enough numbers to be that effective so it probably was the right thing to do otherwise more police could have been killed

I agree that there was some calculated, political, decision from above not to use deadly force except as a last resort (Babbitt breaking into the speaker's chambers), but I think they were wrong in that calculation. The first few rounds fired at each of the different hot spots would have resulted in the same reaction that happened at the speaker's chambers. The assault stopped.
 

eelw

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First I am not so sure he loses, electoral college is rigged against democrats plus god knows what MAGA governors or congress critters will do.
I am very confident *if* he loses elected republicans will turn against him. He will be far too old to be a viable candidate and we and them all know he will never stop running for president he enjoys the cheers and attention too much. Hopefully the wise up and stop propping him up. That will finally allow consequences to the former presidents shitty and illegal behaviors.
Rust belt states are blue run election officials. Az is also. Georgia is still headed by Brad Raffensperger. So not worried at the state level. It's the house that we need to worry about if it somehow remains under Repugican control.
 

Paratus

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Look. Any supporter willing to do violence on his behalf will have big Trump signs on their homes.

Just start a rumor that the 10s of millions of illegal immigrants Trump says are pouring over the boarder each month will burn and pillage every un defended Trump voters home. They’ll all stay home afraid their home will burn or hoping to shoot someone who never shows up.
 
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When Trump loses in a few weeks, it is a certainty he will get on his minor social site and call for violence by his supporters.

We know he is going to go into an ALL CAPS rage on his failing truth social, and will call for his cult to rise up against election boards, secretaries of state in individual states, and anyone else he can think to blame.

Where does his "free speech" to call for an armed uprising stop? There are laws...



I'm sure there are agencies that could immediately shut down truth social, his most likely megaphone to call for violence, as soon as he makes the call. If it kept his fat ass out of prison, he really doesn't care how many people die to accomplish that end.

Would it even matter how badly he loses, winning only a handful of fly over states, he will be screaming about how he won, and the democrats cheat.

The first week in November is going to be interesting, and I suspect a very black mark on the country's history.
This was in my email inbox this morning:

 
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MtnMan

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First I am not so sure he loses, electoral college is rigged against democrats plus god knows what MAGA governors or congress critters will do.
I am very confident *if* he loses elected republicans will turn against him. He will be far too old to be a viable candidate and we and them all know he will never stop running for president he enjoys the cheers and attention too much. Hopefully the wise up and stop propping him up. That will finally allow consequences to the former presidents shitty and illegal behaviors.
Many "elected" republicans are already stepping back, but they have no clout with the MAGA morons and will basically be ignored when Trump calls for violence.

In proof, 98% of Trump's former cabinet say repeatedly he is unfit, and MAGA just calls them names. Trump is their god, and no one else has any input into their thought processes. Remember "stand back and stand by"?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I agree that there was some calculated, political, decision from above not to use deadly force except as a last resort (Babbitt breaking into the speaker's chambers), but I think they were wrong in that calculation. The first few rounds fired at each of the different hot spots would have resulted in the same reaction that happened at the speaker's chambers. The assault stopped.
This is SOP for military units dealing with a hostile mob. Find the largest or the loudest and make an example out of them. Most people lose their nerve when someone's head gets Gallagher'd and the ones that don't are easy to identify.
 

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I won't be surprised if Trump wins, just disappointed. I can't gauge how much racism and misogyny will affect the outcome. This was the risk introduced by switching from Biden. I hope the country has progressed enough to overcome it. I like to think it has, but then I see constant reminders of how stupid people can be.
Bruh, GTFO my head! My tiny brain barely keeps this body alive. I can’t be thinking for both of us.

Shitlol
 
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iRONic

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The peaceful handover of power, of which is a hallmark of successful democracies is obviously in jeopardy should Trump win and institutes his fascist reformation campaign.
Wait, what?! Trump is going to foment violence in an election he won?!

What am I missing? Am I in the wrong thread?
 
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We are all going to die!!!!!!

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Yeah this isn’t a big deal to me because somehow I know they won’t be paying this money out.
However it is dangerous to promote it. Shit hard core conservatives have big problems with churches all going to vote after service and it is illegal in some states to hand someone in a long voting line a water or doughnut. Perspective is important regarding what’s going on
 
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FelixDeCat

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This is SOP for military units dealing with a hostile mob. Find the largest or the loudest and make an example out of them. Most people lose their nerve when someone's head gets Gallagher'd and the ones that don't are easy to identify.
What about an army of raging Hawk Tuah members? They can spit a loogie pretty far ya know, comparable to artillery units.